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shinedown.45
Legend
Silver Level
I believe premierplayr has a stalker bot.....
Dorkus Malorkus
HELLO INTERNET
Silver Level
this thread just took a turning directly into awesomeville.
Chris_TC
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Now I'm really curious: how on earth do you 12-table?
I play at hollywoodpoker (which is the pokerroom network), and you have like ~30 seconds to act before your hand is folded.
I sometimes play four tables at once but whenever I'm in a hand at two tables and the pots are big I often have to make tough decisions faster than I'd like.
So seriously, how can you play twelve tables? I mean, even pressing the fold button on a dozen tables takes time, so how do you have time to actually play?
I play at hollywoodpoker (which is the pokerroom network), and you have like ~30 seconds to act before your hand is folded.
I sometimes play four tables at once but whenever I'm in a hand at two tables and the pots are big I often have to make tough decisions faster than I'd like.
So seriously, how can you play twelve tables? I mean, even pressing the fold button on a dozen tables takes time, so how do you have time to actually play?
roulettedares
Rising Star
Bronze Level
pokersmoke
i say get used to bots even though it sucks!!"pokersmoke" claims alot of things i wrote in another post about it its a reality and i dont advocate it i dont think iv played against it much most sng's iv played have been real people although ther has been on occ a couple , u can still chat if u have this software, its alot like using the calculator just does all the folding and mechanics for you it claims to quote.. I'm talking about a 24/7 money machine. A software program that never tires, never makes mistakes, and is completely devoid of human emotion. It's everything you, and every other player, are NOT..The software is called "PokerSmoke". It's a hands-free, robotic poker player that's been deviously programmed to play a level of professional poker that you, yourself, could only dream of. It makes all of the right moves, always at the right time, to suck up consistent profits from the weakest and strongest players alike. In short, it's unstoppable
i say get used to bots even though it sucks!!"pokersmoke" claims alot of things i wrote in another post about it its a reality and i dont advocate it i dont think iv played against it much most sng's iv played have been real people although ther has been on occ a couple , u can still chat if u have this software, its alot like using the calculator just does all the folding and mechanics for you it claims to quote.. I'm talking about a 24/7 money machine. A software program that never tires, never makes mistakes, and is completely devoid of human emotion. It's everything you, and every other player, are NOT..The software is called "PokerSmoke". It's a hands-free, robotic poker player that's been deviously programmed to play a level of professional poker that you, yourself, could only dream of. It makes all of the right moves, always at the right time, to suck up consistent profits from the weakest and strongest players alike. In short, it's unstoppable
vanquish
Legend
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arkadiy
Legend
Silver Level
Maybe so, but the 5th ace is supposed to be orange......
rob5775
Legend
Silver Level
^^^ Exactly.
I love when people google PS/FT names and respond to threads. (don't we all
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thajman
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Granted 12-tblng or any form of multitabling does extremely simplify things and can make you very vulnerable for the players who know you're doing it. However I find it adequate for the OP difficulty at small stakes. Extremely straightforward poker big premium hands and set-mining. Def. don't want to try it where players have a brain. You'll make mistakes like misclicking but it definitely makes things more interesting for those who have a short attention span.
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thajman
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Button raised ~4x prem. called (at 10nl btw) I rr to ~ 1.70 in late pos. w/KK button folded. prem pushed his remaining 5-6 dollars w/ AK and caught A on river. . .this was after he was spewing threats of me being a bot and spamming the chat w/ how much everyone needed to report me. He did report me and I did get my chat banned, but no. . .I'm not a bot. . .Or am I?????
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Noooorm
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Multi-table players
I've seen the video of Khan playing 20+ tournaments at once (sharkscope has him losing over $50k).
I've played well over 5,000 sngs on pokerstars over the last two years. Most of them one or two at a time.
What I have noticed is the increasing number of people not playing 5 or 10 tournaments at a time, but 20 or 30 at once.
When I first started playing on Pokerstars, I would encounter 3 or 4 of these players a day. Now, it's 3 or 4 in almost every tourney.
Take some time for yourself. Open up just about any sng that has a $20 buy in or more. They normally play in the 9 or 18 player turbos.
You will find a large number of "players" in 15, 20 or even 30+ tournaments at once (the most I've found is someone who was in 38 tournaments at a single time with sharkscope profits nearly $200k.
Amazing huh? A "person" who is able to study betting patterns, hand selection, read opponents and make excellent poker decisions to the extent that they could make almost $200,000 playing $20 buy in tournaments.
Again, don't take my word for it. Open up a few tournaments and sharkscope them for yourself.
You'll find player after player in 20 or more tournaments, ALL making exceptional profits for the level they are playing.
Watch them play for a while and you'll notice some amazing things.
Play against them when you get the chance. Watch how often they raise you when you have nothing and fold pre-flop when you have a monster.
Bad beats happen in poker, without a doubt.
Bad beats happen more often with online poker. People are more likely to saw "screw it" push all in with their bs hand and hope they hit, knowing they can crack open a beer and start their next tourney.
If you just drove an hour to play in a home game, or flew to Vegas or AC to play in a tourney, you might be less inclinded to call off all your chips with k/2 off suite which magically cracks the "horrible player who whines about site being rigged" going all in with their pocket aces.
Bad beats happen, that's the nature of the game.
But watching player, after player, after player... all playing 20 or more tournaments at once, ALL making INCREDIBLE profits, thousands, tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands playing $20 or $30 buy in tournaments is too much to believe.
Are their poker savaants our there who can do it?
Sure, it may be possible if you are remarkably gifted.
After all, what should seperate the online professional capable of making so much money? Wouldn't it be their ability to study their opponents betting patterns? Watching the cards when showdowns occur to get a better idea of the hands being played in certain positions?
Pull up ANY player in 20 or more tournaments at once and you'll find someone making a TON of cash in relation to the size of touraments they are playing.
Again, don't take my word for it. Look at a few of them yourself and make up your own mind.
I've seen the video of Khan playing 20+ tournaments at once (sharkscope has him losing over $50k).
I've played well over 5,000 sngs on pokerstars over the last two years. Most of them one or two at a time.
What I have noticed is the increasing number of people not playing 5 or 10 tournaments at a time, but 20 or 30 at once.
When I first started playing on Pokerstars, I would encounter 3 or 4 of these players a day. Now, it's 3 or 4 in almost every tourney.
Take some time for yourself. Open up just about any sng that has a $20 buy in or more. They normally play in the 9 or 18 player turbos.
You will find a large number of "players" in 15, 20 or even 30+ tournaments at once (the most I've found is someone who was in 38 tournaments at a single time with sharkscope profits nearly $200k.
Amazing huh? A "person" who is able to study betting patterns, hand selection, read opponents and make excellent poker decisions to the extent that they could make almost $200,000 playing $20 buy in tournaments.
Again, don't take my word for it. Open up a few tournaments and sharkscope them for yourself.
You'll find player after player in 20 or more tournaments, ALL making exceptional profits for the level they are playing.
Watch them play for a while and you'll notice some amazing things.
Play against them when you get the chance. Watch how often they raise you when you have nothing and fold pre-flop when you have a monster.
Bad beats happen in poker, without a doubt.
Bad beats happen more often with online poker. People are more likely to saw "screw it" push all in with their bs hand and hope they hit, knowing they can crack open a beer and start their next tourney.
If you just drove an hour to play in a home game, or flew to Vegas or AC to play in a tourney, you might be less inclinded to call off all your chips with k/2 off suite which magically cracks the "horrible player who whines about site being rigged" going all in with their pocket aces.
Bad beats happen, that's the nature of the game.
But watching player, after player, after player... all playing 20 or more tournaments at once, ALL making INCREDIBLE profits, thousands, tens of thousands and even hundreds of thousands playing $20 or $30 buy in tournaments is too much to believe.
Are their poker savaants our there who can do it?
Sure, it may be possible if you are remarkably gifted.
After all, what should seperate the online professional capable of making so much money? Wouldn't it be their ability to study their opponents betting patterns? Watching the cards when showdowns occur to get a better idea of the hands being played in certain positions?
Pull up ANY player in 20 or more tournaments at once and you'll find someone making a TON of cash in relation to the size of touraments they are playing.
Again, don't take my word for it. Look at a few of them yourself and make up your own mind.
shinedown.45
Legend
Silver Level
speaking of bots, check this out(not a pokerbot site)
TechEBlog » Top 10 Coolest Robots
TechEBlog » Top 10 Coolest Robots
JLtrooper
Rock Star
Silver Level
Hevad Khan played in 26 SNG's at once. I don't see what the big deal is about 12 tabling. Personally, my max tables is 8, but other people have their limits as well. I assume Pokerstars would only become suspicious if it was 20+ tables at once.
Chris_TC
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
You're way overestimating the "studying your opponents" part. For one thing, each and every one of these multitablers uses a HUD, so that gives them a pretty good idea about how their opponents play.
And second of all, turbo SNGs are so fast that there's little strategy to be employed. You don't have much maneuvering room, so most of the plays you'll make are going to be very straightforward against most opponents, i.e. they don't require much thought at any point.
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Noooorm
Enthusiast
Silver Level
So what you're saying is that reading your opponents really doesn't provide much of an advantage and that there is so little strategy involved that if you weight your hands properly you can win without much thought.
Is it just me, or doesn't that sound like the characterstics of a bot?
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Noooorm
Enthusiast
Silver Level
When you get to 30 and make $20k can I look at your stats?
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Noooorm
Enthusiast
Silver Level
Playing in a $20/9 player now. There is one player who is in 34 seperate tourneys at once, and is shown as Registering in every $20 and $30 9 player listed.
He's made over $80k playing $30 and below tourneys.
Think Pokerstars asked him to make a UTube video too?
He's made over $80k playing $30 and below tourneys.
Think Pokerstars asked him to make a UTube video too?
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