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joosebuck

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the odds of this are astronomical. and he calls it. the hand before. these are 3 consecutive hands. back to back. no smoke and mirrors.



*********** # 177 **************
pokerstars Game #9723129207: Tournament #48875308, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round II, Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/02 - 23:32:10 (ET)
Table '48875308 1' 10-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: jas21 (1045 in chips)
Seat 2: ViviLolo (1435 in chips)
Seat 4: Atticus8182 (930 in chips)
Seat 5: spmeech1 (3085 in chips)
Seat 6: joosebucklol (3225 in chips)
Seat 7: freespinner (400 in chips)
Seat 8: jga1635 (1940 in chips)
Seat 9: FELO18 (590 in chips)
Seat 10: bonniez (2350 in chips)
jga1635: posts small blind 15
FELO18: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [7h 8s]
Atticus8182 said, "next hand"
Atticus8182 said, "i double up"
Atticus8182 said, "ill bet anyone"
bonniez: folds
jas21: calls 30
ViviLolo: folds
Atticus8182: folds
joosebucklol said, "ill bet you $5"
Atticus8182 said, "i will push any 2"
spmeech1: folds
Atticus8182 said, "and double up"
joosebucklol: folds
freespinner: calls 30
Atticus8182 said, "as long as someone calls me"
jga1635: calls 15
joosebucklol said, "ill bet you $5"
FELO18: checks
*** FLOP *** [5h Ah 2h]
joosebucklol said, "if you want."
jga1635: checks
FELO18: checks
jas21: bets 30
freespinner: folds
jga1635: folds
FELO18: folds
Atticus8182 said, "nah, just watch me double up"
jas21 collected 120 from pot
jas21: shows [9h Kh] (a flush, Ace high)
Atticus8182 said, "and say "wow" to your friends"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 120 | Rake 0
Board [5h Ah 2h]
Seat 1: jas21 collected (120)
Seat 2: ViviLolo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Atticus8182 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: spmeech1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: joosebucklol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: freespinner (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: jga1635 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: FELO18 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 10: bonniez folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 178 **************
PokerStars Game #9723142880: Tournament #48875308, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round II, Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/02 - 23:33:09 (ET)
Table '48875308 1' 10-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jas21 (1135 in chips)
Seat 2: ViviLolo (1435 in chips)
Seat 4: Atticus8182 (930 in chips)
Seat 5: spmeech1 (3085 in chips)
Seat 6: joosebucklol (3225 in chips)
Seat 7: freespinner (370 in chips)
Seat 8: jga1635 (1910 in chips)
Seat 9: FELO18 (560 in chips)
Seat 10: bonniez (2350 in chips)
FELO18: posts small blind 15
bonniez: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [3d 7d]
jas21: folds
ViviLolo: folds
Atticus8182: raises 120 to 150
spmeech1: calls 150
joosebucklol: folds
freespinner: calls 150
jga1635: folds
Atticus8182 said, "double me upppppp"
FELO18: raises 410 to 560 and is all-in
bonniez: folds
Atticus8182: calls 410
spmeech1: folds
freespinner: calls 220 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [Kc 8d 6d]
joosebucklol said, "roflmao wow"
*** TURN *** [Kc 8d 6d] 4♠
joosebucklol said, "shoulda taken the bet dude"
*** RIVER *** [Kc 8d 6d 4s] 6♣
spmeech1 said, "lol"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
FELO18: shows [9d 9s] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
Atticus8182: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Atticus8182 said, "lol"
Atticus8182 collected 380 from side pot
freespinner: shows [Th Qc] (a pair of Sixes)
Atticus8182 said, "just tell your friends"
Atticus8182 collected 1290 from main pot
Atticus8182 said, "keep the $5 lol"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1670 Main pot 1290. Side pot 380. | Rake 0
Board [Kc 8d 6d 4s 6c]
Seat 1: jas21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ViviLolo folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Atticus8182 showed [Ah Ad] and won (1670) with two pair, Aces and Sixes
Seat 5: spmeech1 folded before Flop
Seat 6: joosebucklol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: freespinner showed [Th Qc] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 8: jga1635 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: FELO18 (small blind) showed [9d 9s] and lost with two pair, Nines and
Sixes
Seat 10: bonniez (big blind) folded before Flop

*********** # 179 **************
PokerStars Game #9723153975: Tournament #48875308, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round II, Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/02 - 23:33:57 (ET)
Table '48875308 1' 10-max Seat #10 is the button
Seat 1: jas21 (1135 in chips)
Seat 2: ViviLolo (1435 in chips)
Seat 4: Atticus8182 (2040 in chips)
Seat 5: spmeech1 (2935 in chips)
Seat 6: joosebucklol (3225 in chips)
Seat 8: jga1635 (1910 in chips)
Seat 10: bonniez (2320 in chips)
jas21: posts small blind 15
ViviLolo: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [6c Kd]
Atticus8182 said, "cant take your money"
Atticus8182: raises 150 to 180
spmeech1: folds
joosebucklol: folds
jga1635: folds
bonniez: folds
jas21: folds
ViviLolo: folds
Atticus8182 collected 75 from pot
Atticus8182: shows [Qc Qs] (a pair of Queens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 75 | Rake 0
Seat 1: jas21 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: ViviLolo (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Atticus8182 collected (75)
Seat 5: spmeech1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: joosebucklol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jga1635 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: bonniez (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

*********** # 180 **************
PokerStars Game #9723157972: Tournament #48875308, $15+$1 Hold'em No Limit -
Match Round II, Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/02 - 23:34:15 (ET)
Table '48875308 1' 10-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: jas21 (1120 in chips)
Seat 2: ViviLolo (1405 in chips)
Seat 4: Atticus8182 (2085 in chips)
Seat 5: spmeech1 (2935 in chips)
Seat 6: joosebucklol (3225 in chips)
Seat 8: jga1635 (1910 in chips)
Seat 10: bonniez (2320 in chips)
ViviLolo: posts small blind 15
Atticus8182: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to joosebucklol [Kc 6d]
joosebucklol said, "stop the haxing"
spmeech1 said, "sick"
Atticus8182 said, "AA then QQ"
spmeech1: calls 30
joosebucklol: folds
joosebucklol said, "ill tell your mother"
jga1635: raises 120 to 150
Atticus8182 said, "what are the odds"
bonniez: calls 150
jas21: folds
ViviLolo: calls 135
Atticus8182: raises 1935 to 2085 and is all-in
spmeech1: folds
jga1635: calls 1760 and is all-in
bonniez: folds
ViviLolo: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c Jd 7s]
joosebucklol said, "holy ****"
jga1635 said, "unreall"
joosebucklol said, "you gotta be kidding me"
*** TURN *** [2c Jd 7s] J♥
*** RIVER *** [2c Jd 7s Jh] A♥
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Atticus8182: shows [Ks Kd] (two pair, Kings and Jacks)
jga1635: shows [7h 7d] (a full house, Sevens full of Jacks)
Atticus8182 said, "nh"
jga1635 collected 4150 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4150 | Rake 0
Board [2c Jd 7s Jh Ah]
Seat 1: jas21 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ViviLolo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Atticus8182 (big blind) showed [Ks Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and
Jacks
Seat 5: spmeech1 folded before Flop
Seat 6: joosebucklol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: jga1635 showed [7h 7d] and won (4150) with a full house, Sevens full of
Jacks
Seat 10: bonniez folded before Flop
 
skoldpadda

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LOL, all that and he still lost it all on the 3rd hand.
 
Irexes

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Serious answer.

What are the odds of what? Someone having those exact hands? Hands => AK? Hands that win three in a row?

Absolutely this is an incredible run of cards but it's not like he predicted Aces followed by QQ and KK. From the way he writes it looks like he's going all in regardless cause he's short stack, he then gets AA which is nice but not too improbable. Things get more unlikely with the next two hands but still nothing fishy.

A sort of related story. I do this thing a lot where I make outlandish predictions. I'll call the next number while the lottery is being drawn. I'll call the next card from a pack, or tell people to hold the pin at golf cause I'll sink the ball from off the green. Or the phones about to ring, or the next advert on the TV is going to be the toilet tissue one. At a home game once I called two cards in a row, river and turn (just the rank not the suit). The other night Mrs Irexes was watching me play and I twice (out of two tries) called the next card to be dealt in a tourny.

Now I've got a bit of a reputation for being able to call stuff like this but all it is is that people remember the times it comes off and forget those it doesn't. I've heard people retell stories and it even grows with the telling (I'm not saying that's the case here, I trust Joose), but there's plenty of times I've had guys say similar things to this and either push and bust or fold when they get crap. I've also seen people live complain that they haven't had aces in ages and then get them the next hand a couple of times.

Only one person has ever spotted me doing the prediction thing (the trick is to be subtle about it and not make a scene when you miss or make a fuss yourself when you hit) and I've known him a very long time.

Back to your situation, there's a desire to ascribe the improbable as impossible but in a universe of infinite possibilities and with an almost infinite number of guys talking smack at the table, this kind of thing is almost a guarentee.

(Incidentally I'm sure your tongue in cheek with the r1gged, but I like to type)


Doesn't make any less unusual though :)
 
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ive seen stuff like this happen on a few occasions and once or twice to me but never called it or saw it coming. My sickest little rush though is when i hit about 4 sets in a span of 7 hands. Usually takes me an hour or two to hit one. Would be nice if this would happen more often, and to when its coming would be great so i can set up the table right before.
 
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I see a pattern here, not only on this site but other poker review sites too and it seems I see more complaints about poker stars than any other site.

Things that make you go umm, dont feel bad I had my bro watching me play and the odds just dont match what so ever not even freakin close to real life, its a business and there in the business of making that rake.
 
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you probably see more complaints about pokerstars because more people play on it and more hands are played there than any other site.
 
joosebuck

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(im joking for the non irexes folks here)
 
ChuckTs

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I see a pattern here, not only on this site but other poker review sites too and it seems I see more complaints about poker stars than any other site.

Things that make you go umm, dont feel bad I had my bro watching me play and the odds just dont match what so ever not even freakin close to real life, its a business and there in the business of making that rake.

Please don't start.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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PROTIP: Dont put "serious" in topic titles when you're joking.

...and yeah, what Chuck said. It's getting very boring.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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yes but people dont get it because they suck, and hence this is going to become another "ZOMG POKERS IZ RIGD" thread :(
 
joosebuck

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take your christmas star and go die
 
ChuckTs

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kk change of subject:

i-can-has-walkthru.jpg
 
Irexes

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Then you have my 1st level sympathy.
 
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Just for the record, that is not a christmas start it is a yelloW stop sign. DOES ANYONE KNOW WHAT SHAPE A STOP SIGN IS?

HINT: its not a star
 
joosebuck

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stop signs do not have 16 sides brosef.
 
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