redboy23
Legend
Platinum Level
RedGnom
Run, Forester! Run!
Bronze Level
In ignorance of the tells on players at the table I would do fold.
UTG's and MP's+ moves might be reasonable due to their situation and positions in the view of their stacks. You are sitting on SB and you are not last, moreover, with AT in multipot (if BB will decide to call) your side is not much fancied.
In addition, you can use this odds chart for your consideration:
Good luck!
UTG's and MP's+ moves might be reasonable due to their situation and positions in the view of their stacks. You are sitting on SB and you are not last, moreover, with AT in multipot (if BB will decide to call) your side is not much fancied.
In addition, you can use this odds chart for your consideration:
Good luck!
mtl mile end
Legend
Bronze Level
If the choice is call or fold, I fold. I would almost never call here.
If the choice is call, fold, or shove, definitely not call. Fold or shove depends on many factors. It's usually going to be a fold for me.
If the choice is call, fold, or shove, definitely not call. Fold or shove depends on many factors. It's usually going to be a fold for me.
moulan7
Rock Star
Silver Level
Fold.
I assume that it is a regular speed tournament and the players are playing seriously xD.
Of course a million factors will play their role on my decision here... but I skip them xD aaand..
UTG player has 'enough chips' to wait for a decent hand to shove. Since he shoves UTG he has a decent hand and we are possibly at the bottom of his range.
Same goes for MP plus he wants to shove when he finds the opportunity to do it and decides to call UTG's shove. He holds a decent hand too. Sure he has no time cause blinds will eat him but he doesn't do this call lightly.
I think we are more likely dominated or flipping for half of our stack.
I feel that better opportunities will arise on the future so I pass.
Just for fun.
If it is a satellite or DoubleOrNothing bubble I fold even AA because we already have a winner
Hmm I'm trying to think of a situation where I call. (or probably better shove)
Maybe if I know that they are both doing it lightly all the time and it's a KO tour who knows xD.
I assume that it is a regular speed tournament and the players are playing seriously xD.
Of course a million factors will play their role on my decision here... but I skip them xD aaand..
UTG player has 'enough chips' to wait for a decent hand to shove. Since he shoves UTG he has a decent hand and we are possibly at the bottom of his range.
Same goes for MP plus he wants to shove when he finds the opportunity to do it and decides to call UTG's shove. He holds a decent hand too. Sure he has no time cause blinds will eat him but he doesn't do this call lightly.
I think we are more likely dominated or flipping for half of our stack.
I feel that better opportunities will arise on the future so I pass.
Just for fun.
If it is a satellite or DoubleOrNothing bubble I fold even AA because we already have a winner
Hmm I'm trying to think of a situation where I call. (or probably better shove)
Maybe if I know that they are both doing it lightly all the time and it's a KO tour who knows xD.
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neptun1914
Legend
Silver Level
Based on the information provided i will fold in this situation. You have raise from early position after you, all in and call. It is highly likely that at least one of the two all in players have pair. Even if it is low pair (lower than TT) it is 55% favorite against your ATo. Another high possibility is at least one person to have broadway cards like KQ, KJ, QJ where you are just 60% favorite. Worst case is someone to have AJ, AQ, AK or pair higher than TT which leaves you with just 25 to 30% equity.
redboy23
Legend
Platinum Level
Hello everyone,
I made the call.
My reasoning was that my tourney is at risk only if player 9 shoves and that is another call I am willing to make. If he does not, then I am willing to continue playing with the 850 or so chips that I have left.
Is that poor thinking in this spot?
I found it almost irresistible to call here.
Thank you for the chart RedGnom.
I made the call.
My reasoning was that my tourney is at risk only if player 9 shoves and that is another call I am willing to make. If he does not, then I am willing to continue playing with the 850 or so chips that I have left.
Is that poor thinking in this spot?
I found it almost irresistible to call here.
Thank you for the chart RedGnom.
redboy23
Legend
Platinum Level
Thanks for your votes and great advice everyone. 80% in favour of folding. Well done!
The devil made me do it.
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I deserve to lose every last chip that I did.
Unfortunately, I cannot remember what I finished in that tourney.
The devil made me do it.
For those of you who are curious about the play, check out the Boom - click here
I deserve to lose every last chip that I did.
Unfortunately, I cannot remember what I finished in that tourney.
fletchdad
Jammin................
Loyaler
I have not looked at other answers, so sorry if this has been already said.
I am assuming a tourney here.
You have an EP AI and an MP caller (with a small raise to anyone else who gets involved). Is there any reason for you to think you have their ranges dominated with what is basically a trash hand to call 2 all-ins with?
A To is easily dominated, and vs 2 players, for me this is an insta fold without even thinking.
BUT..... No information is available. Maybe you had none, but: Players in the hand, any reads on them? Is it an MTT or an STT? (not that it would matter much, fold....)
You really want to risk over 1/2 your stack on what is probably a coin flip at best?
Now I will read replies, maybe you answered some of these already.
I am assuming a tourney here.
You have an EP AI and an MP caller (with a small raise to anyone else who gets involved). Is there any reason for you to think you have their ranges dominated with what is basically a trash hand to call 2 all-ins with?
A To is easily dominated, and vs 2 players, for me this is an insta fold without even thinking.
BUT..... No information is available. Maybe you had none, but: Players in the hand, any reads on them? Is it an MTT or an STT? (not that it would matter much, fold....)
You really want to risk over 1/2 your stack on what is probably a coin flip at best?
Now I will read replies, maybe you answered some of these already.