This is a discussion on Rhetorical Decisions - Poker Polling Station :) within the online poker forums, in the General Poker section; Hello poker fans,
Correct me if I am wrong, but ...
There are calls that you must make as a poker prayer, oops I mean player!
I assume that it is a regular speed tournament and the players are playing seriously xD.
Of course a million factors will play their role on my decision here... but I skip them xD aaand..
UTG player has 'enough chips' to wait for a decent hand to shove. Since he shoves UTG he has a decent hand and we are possibly at the bottom of his range.
Same goes for MP plus he wants to shove when he finds the opportunity to do it and decides to call UTG's shove. He holds a decent hand too. Sure he has no time cause blinds will eat him but he doesn't do this call lightly.
I think we are more likely dominated or flipping for half of our stack.
I feel that better opportunities will arise on the future so I pass.
Just for fun.
If it is a satellite or DoubleOrNothing bubble I fold even AA because we already have a winner :P
Hmm I'm trying to think of a situation where I call. (or probably better shove)
Maybe if I know that they are both doing it lightly all the time and it's a KO tour who knows xD.
Based on the information provided i will fold in this situation. You have raise from early position after you, all in and call. It is highly likely that at least one of the two all in players have pair. Even if it is low pair (lower than TT) it is 55% favorite against your ATo. Another high possibility is at least one person to have broadway cards like KQ, KJ, QJ where you are just 60% favorite. Worst case is someone to have AJ, AQ, AK or pair higher than TT which leaves you with just 25 to 30% equity.
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I made the call.
My reasoning was that my tourney is at risk only if player 9 shoves and that is another call I am willing to make. If he does not, then I am willing to continue playing with the 850 or so chips that I have left.
I have not looked at other answers, so sorry if this has been already said.
I am assuming a tourney here.
You have an EP AI and an MP caller (with a small raise to anyone else who gets involved). Is there any reason for you to think you have their ranges dominated with what is basically a trash hand to call 2 all-ins with?
A To is easily dominated, and vs 2 players, for me this is an insta fold without even thinking.
BUT..... No information is available. Maybe you had none, but: Players in the hand, any reads on them? Is it an MTT or an STT? (not that it would matter much, fold....)
You really want to risk over 1/2 your stack on what is probably a coin flip at best?
Now I will read replies, maybe you answered some of these already.
Facts are empowering. Even when the facts are discouraging, not knowing or acknowledging the facts is worse.