Please help me guys! I have a bad problem with tilt and emotions.

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Bentheman87

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I've had some huge swings in my bankroll throughout these past few months. I had a huge victory once where I won almost $10,000 in one tournament. Then I had periods where I would just take bad beat after bad beat after bad beat, or lose like 10 all in preflop coinflips in a row. It killed my confidence and made me real frustrated, sometimes, right after a tournament I lost, I would go over to my couch and just punch down into the cussions as hard as I could. And during these bad periods I would lose lots and lots of $. As a matter of fact, right now I've only got like $500 in my bankroll, I had like $2000 just a few weeks ago.

Whats the best way to just completely remove my emotions from my mind as I'm playing??
 
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If I read your post correctly, you went from ~$10,000 to $500? Using bankroll management you should have only huge upswings (like winning in the tournament you did.) Huge downswings should not be possible unless you are playing out of the limits specified. Emotions mainly hurt your performance if you are in too deep.
 
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if you can lose 3/4 of your roll in a couple weeks, i'd say you're not using near proper bankroll management. although that sort of goes hand-in-hand with tilting because it suggests a lack of patience and in-the-moment desires overpowering levelheaded reason

do you believe (or will you admit) that the tilt and emotions are affecting your playing, or just that it's causing you excessive anger outside of the game itself? obviously the results suggest that it's affecting your play as well but i just wanted your take on it before i try to offer any advice
 
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No I transferred almost all of it out of full tilt, all but a couple thousand. But still, I've lost a lot of money and I'm sure it's due to tilting. I just need advice on how to best fight tilt.
 
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No I transferred almost all of it out of full tilt, all but a couple thousand. But still, I've lost a lot of money and I'm sure it's due to tilting. I just need advice on how to best fight tilt.

Really good that you rat-holed 80%!

I find that when I have a bad day, it is best to quit and wait until the next day. This is easier to do if you use tighter than recommended limits for your playing. For example, I could be playing $2/$4 limit games but I am sticking with $1/$2. Then a bad day is only half what it could have been.
 
blankoblanco

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poker can definitely upset me and affect how i feel but i think i'm pretty good when it comes to keeping it out of my actual play

what might help is the mindset that emotional control is a major part of being a good poker player. you shouldn't think "well, i'm a good player, i just tilt", because tilting is a major leak in your game. it's not separate from the game. it's as much a part of the game as knowing what hands to play preflop. if you saw a player who was calling 4xBB preflop raises with 73o, you'd probably think he sucks. but in reality, his leak of frequently calling raises with garbage might not be any worse than your leak of really bad tilting. keeping your emotions out of your play is nearly as important as learning the fundamentals and studying the game

if you take a bad beat or something frustrating happens, slow down and analyze your actions shortly after. ask yourself if you feel like taking an action you wouldn't normally take, be honest with yourself, and then try to combat it. the really bad thing about tilt is that if you take a bad beat in a tournament but are still in, a lot of the players at the table will expect you to go on tilt. so if you actually do, not only are you deviating from your usual strategy (which is probably more effective or else it wouldn't be your default), but now you become transparent because you're doing exactly what they expect of you

you should realize that by exercising better self control you're actually actively improving your game in one of the most effective ways you can. and for me there's nothing worse than having something to regret after a tournament or session. if you get KK all-in vs AK preflop and lose, there's nothing to regret, you just got fked. you can be pissed or annoyed but you don't have to regret anything. if you tilt your way out, you know you're to blame, and that upsetting feeling can just lead to more tilt. all you can do is try to stop it before it starts, realize it's a requirement if you have aspirations to be a great player, and find some level of satisfaction in knowing that you played as well as you could. taking a break to cool off, if you have the luxury, is often a good idea as well

that said, i still permit you the right to get really pissed off if you lose like 15 coinflips in a row, or K9>AA aipf (jus' happened to me an hour ago :() just keep it out of your play
 
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Soooo glad you put away 80%. A BIG win has a tendancy to give even the best of us a BIG EGO. Your only losing winnings after all right?

You have to get your mind right, remember how hard it was to get that 10k win, it will be just as hard to do it again.

Take some time off, read, do some random acts of kindness, get yourself into a positive frame of mind.

Then get back to basics, bankroll management, stay within your br structure, play solid, keep a poker journal. This is a BIG lesson, learn from it. :D
 
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This is a very easy tip to do when you are tilting mad crazy and you think every site is rigged against you with bad beats. Go play lots of freerolls and play money table. Play like a complete donk. All in on 7 9os. Things like that. It takes your frustrations out when you catch on stupid stuff and it doesn't matter if you lose. You will soon get tired of the crap play and you will have your play under control again. Then you go back to playing for money. Try it for a week and see how you feel.
 
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the only thing other than BR managment is the fact that maybe your just playing to much....trying to chase your losses......try and relax play a couple hours come back or wait the next day and start again....keep in mind staying within you BR limitations
 
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bankroll management is a major point but it seems like you let one beat hit you hard, what i do when i take a beat is play calm, put some music on or if its a real bad beat just go and play some sports or something :)
 
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