Which is more important in poker: patience or knowledge?
What I mean by patience is waiting for good hands or good situations for bluff.
What I mean by knowledge is stuff you have learned about poker like what experts and experience have taught you.
Patience or knowledge?

Originally Posted by hellomynameiswhat

Which is more important in poker: patience or knowledge?
What I mean by patience is waiting for good hands or good situations for bluff.
What I mean by knowledge is stuff you have learned about poker like what experts and experience have taught you.
Patience or knowledge?

Overall I think knowledge is more important, but quite possibly patience is more important for those that are totally new to the game.

I believe its patience! If you don't have good cards it makes it hard to win.

Originally Posted by Katie Dozier

Overall I think knowledge is more important, but quite possibly patience is more important for those that are totally new to the game.

I agree 100%


Also the more advanced you become at poker the more that knowledge can improve your game, "can" doesn't necessarily mean it will improve your play or game but it does give you more possibilities and can give a more in depth understanding of situations

I would say applied knowledge and continual adaptation are the key to success, applied knowledge would also include timing and patience during play.

Hello.
Both of these factors are important and necessary for success. A player who has excellent knowledge but has no patience is doomed to fail. A player who has the patience but lacks the necessary knowledge will also not succeed.

Originally Posted by hellomynameiswhat

Which is more important in poker: patience or knowledge?
What I mean by patience is waiting for good hands or good situations for bluff.
What I mean by knowledge is stuff you have learned about poker like what experts and experience have taught you.
Patience or knowledge?

They are equally as important because without poker knowledge, you would be patiently waiting for what?

I'm going to go with patience.

You could have all the knowledge in the world, but if you can't wait fro the right situation to use it... you're done.

This was a big leak in my game. After a few hours of play I would get bored and start doing stupid shit, even though I had the knowledge that I shouldn't play in that manor...

"go all in in early position with a pair of twos against a table full of calling stations... why not? let it ride!" -- This was degenerate gambling at its finest.

I've learned better patience, and I've also learned that when I start to feel that boredom well up that it's just time to go. up/down/even doesn't matter... time to go.

I believe that knowledge encompasses patience. I do not think you can be successful in the world of poker if you fail to be patient. Good long-term decisions are those taken with enough patience.
Personally I find anxiety (I am very anxious) as the main problem to be solved if I want to improve my game. Often I take wrong decisions because I do not wait for the right time.

Hi.
I think patience is more important. Only a patient player can acquire the necessary knowledge and improve their skills.
Good luck.

Both of these factors are very important for winning poker, but nevertheless I will put in the first place - "knowledge" !!!

You need patience and knowledge in poker, it is impossible to win if there is not one of these skills.

Knowledge is way more important then being patient. If you have skill to bluff, judge right the situation you will be able to make your stack bigger, waiting a good starting hand is just unthinkable, what you will do if you get in situation where over 1 hour you are getting weak hands. Wait being patient doesn't work in your advantage, your stack is getting low and you are still hoping for that good hand witch need to come and what after ? You 3 bet, everyone fold because you are off play for so long and one player call, flop comes all same suit you have pair KK with no suit same as flop for making flush. You bet, get raised, call and guest what ? Opponent have ace as a highest flush, you lose the tour and starting to be angry, why poker always don't pay the "good hands". Online poker must be set up is your next though. You can't play poker with waiting, poker is a game of action and you must adapt to it. All the best.

In the beginning you should learn some basics and wait for hands which are easier to play so patience is very important. When you improve your skills you will be able to play more hands and get value from them.

of course knowledge first,, how can you play poker correctly without studiying before?? patiently waiting for a good hand or knowing how bluffing is obtained by learning...

When my patience gets to level 1 or below, I suddenly feel the urge to totally obliterate someone or something. But if you try to tell a beginner how to think without giving them any other knowledge, they will doesn't work for you, you can go ahead and find yet another forum to troll. My patience works a bit differently than your levels

Knowledge is King.

Patience. It's the one thing that gets away so easily when playing cards. You can always wait for a better spot to play a hand.

Knowing that you have to have patience. Knowledge wins. Gl have fun

Wisdom to use both!

Everything you mentioned matters. But besides this, there are several more factors that cannot be ruled out.

Originally Posted by hellomynameiswhat

Which is more important in poker: patience or knowledge?
What I mean by patience is waiting for good hands or good situations for bluff.
What I mean by knowledge is stuff you have learned about poker like what experts and experience have taught you.
Patience or knowledge?

They can't really be separated by given a strict choice knowledge. I watch players scoff at profitable plays because they don't have the knowledge to understand things like pot odds etc.

Forgot about patience it's not something you use to play poker. Matter a fact it's not even a skill. I'll explain what I mean but let me start by saying that our knowledge and our understanding of the game is the most important thing we need without understand or the game we would have no way of developing or game. It's knowledge the drives out play. But knowledge but itself won't improve our play we have to able to take the things we learn and apply them to our play. The more we learn the we change our play the better we get all the skills we develop come from from this process of learning and applying. Arguable the most important skill we need is discipline. In particular we need to be disciplined enough to play to play our hand correctly it sounds easy enough but what you find out quickly is that the way that's best to play quite often isn't not how you want o play. We use discipline to play the hands correctly. I think when you mention patience what your talking about is discipline. We gain the knowledge as to what hands we should or shouldn't play which we call are hand ranges once we know them we try and stay as discipline as we can and only play the correct hands. When we are playing disciplined we may go a long stretches between playable hands. We will patience as we wait but the patience is only a by product of our knowledge of the game combined with our discipline of play

Originally Posted by Roller

I agree 100%


Also the more advanced you become at poker the more that knowledge can improve your game, "can" doesn't necessarily mean it will improve your play or game but it does give you more possibilities and can give a more in depth understanding of situations

I would say applied knowledge and continual adaptation are the key to success, applied knowledge would also include timing and patience during play.

good point about adaptation as well. I think this is key as well so I don't get in a rut or too predictable.

Originally Posted by Lena M

Hello.
Both of these factors are important and necessary for success. A player who has excellent knowledge but has no patience is doomed to fail. A player who has the patience but lacks the necessary knowledge will also not succeed.

Well said. I think for me the patience is the hardest which is hard to admit because i usually think of myself as a patient person. I look forward to improving both.

Both.

When you first start out in poker, knowledge is the first thing you'll need to get up to speed. However, with just a modicum of knowledge, you can become sufficiently dangerous at the table, given enough patience. Focus, patience, and alertness are all critical for success.

Of course, if your goal is to become world-class, considerable study is necessary to keep up with the bleeding edge of poker knowledge.

You can be patience and have knowledge, but the most important in poker is... just luck, without this you won't win anything

Originally Posted by freerollz

Both.

When you first start out in poker, knowledge is the first thing you'll need to get up to speed. However, with just a modicum of knowledge, you can become sufficiently dangerous at the table, given enough patience. Focus, patience, and alertness are all critical for success.

Of course, if your goal is to become world-class, considerable study is necessary to keep up with the bleeding edge of poker knowledge.

good point. I think the more I focus the less I get bored and lose patience. Also working on alertness and increasing poker study.

Originally Posted by NicoVlopez

I believe that knowledge encompasses patience. I do not think you can be successful in the world of poker if you fail to be patient. Good long-term decisions are those taken with enough patience.
Personally I find anxiety (I am very anxious) as the main problem to be solved if I want to improve my game. Often I take wrong decisions because I do not wait for the right time.

I have anxiety too although it seems to be getting better these days. Maybe my poker game will get better too! We will see. I think what I meant was that my anxiety and boredom would cause me to lose my patience so I need to work on both anxiety and boredom.

Both. There's no good game without that one and the other.

I think you need knowledge and patience to win in poker.

Ok, I think there is no most-important-think/skill.
To be successful you need combination of all skills, patience, knowledge, where to bluff, where to fold and to watch carefully our opponents.

knowledge will create patience with wisdom and understanding

Knowledge is better because if you have more experience than others, you will have the upper hand.

Both are very important factors in the game imagine just waiting for good hands and not knowing how to play them or playing every hand smartly and bust out.

Yes. That's what I miss in poker - it's patience.

Originally Posted by hellomynameiswhat

Which is more important in poker: patience or knowledge?
What I mean by patience is waiting for good hands or good situations for bluff.
What I mean by knowledge is stuff you have learned about poker like what experts and experience have taught you.
Patience or knowledge?

First 12 months of Poker Career --> Knowledge

Next 12 YEARS of poker career --> Patience

Patience is one of the very more valuable traits we can have at the poker table, BUT if we don't have any knowledge of the best ways to act and proceed then we won't know how to make the most of our patience.

It's also important to be patient when it comes to acquiring the knowledge because rushing it leads to nothing actually sticking

hope that helps & that you enjoy my answer to your question

One complements the other... Equivalent skills...

To me playing without both of these necessary tools is like doing any other Project without all the tools you need.

an artist cannot paint without canvas and paints. a nail is not functional without a hammer.


in my humble opinion the best poker recipe includes three ingredients: knowledge, patience, and luck. That is what makes this game so wonderful in my opinion is because it is a Perfect Blend of all of those things.

Hi mateObviously,I choose .....both.If there is a lack of any of them in your game ,you are lost.

Originally Posted by Lena M

Hello.
Both of these factors are important and necessary for success. A player who has excellent knowledge but has no patience is doomed to fail. A player who has the patience but lacks the necessary knowledge will also not succeed.

Correct.

Also...

You must know to be patient and why. Therefore, knowledge is more important.

I think the two go hand in hand in poker. Every beginner thinks he will start playing poker and win lots of money and the truth is not that, so you have to be patient so that the results can appear and also have patience on the tables to play the best spots. Now knowledge also adds a lot to your game, because if you don't study and just play, you wouldn't have any knowledge, just experience.

I think 25% Knowledge 35% Patience and 40% Intuition, and of course good weather is the way to success.

patiance isn't really a thing , sometimes you should be playing wide cause you are the chip leader and if u are "patiant" in that tournament you are playing bad and not exploiting as much as you could also there are spots where you should play extremely tight cause of icm and in those spots if u are not "patient" you are just bad. It's about knowledge patience doesn't exist in my opinion.

Originally Posted by hellomynameiswhat

Which is more important in poker: patience or knowledge?
What I mean by patience is waiting for good hands or good situations for bluff.
What I mean by knowledge is stuff you have learned about poker like what experts and experience have taught you.
Patience or knowledge?

Patience is a very important component of poker for me , I often do not have enough patience to wait for a good card and I start playing a lot of hands, which eventually leads to a rapid loss of control over the game

Patience in poker is synonymous with knowledge, therefore your post does not make any sense.

Think both play a huge part in poker,
Without knowledge you wont get far
and without patience you wont get far either

Think you need both to become, or be succesfull in poker

Otherwise were you would be without the other one?

ofc when u have knowledge u know patience is part of the knowledge. u cant have knowledge without having patience

Both are important and necessary for the game. You need patience and you gather knowledge by playing with patience!

as the older ones say "patience is everything", but when I'm playing online poker sometimes you get that good hand that you bet everything on and it ends up going bad, right, I still haven't learned to deal with this kind of losing tilt after a bad of those.

I think they are both equally important. You need both to win.