Moving from online to live

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orangepeeleo

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Hi,

I've been playing poker, online and live in friends homes with about 5 casino visits, for about 2 years and i have a problem lol

Last night i went to venlo casino to play in their 100 euro freezeout, although i've never played in this specific tournie i have played in the friday night 50€ 1 rebuy/addon about 4 times, once coming second for around a 1000€.

My problem is that although in online sngs n mtts i do well and play a good aggresive game i'm rarely able to transfer my skills from the online games into casinos, last night i played the worst poker i've ever played, raising out of position and then being scared to put out cont bets and call re-raises, i finally busted out when the antes kicked in and i pushed with JJ on the btn and was called by AA in the small blind, i was a living example of a bad tight-weak player.

I cant understand why, i'm not playin with scared money as im in the forces and so have a fair bit of disposable income.
My guess is that im sub-consiously feeling a little intimidated, i am a shy person naturally and had to work hard at learning to be aggressive online as my style online doesnt match my real life demeanour at all.

Has anyone else had isues like this?? Im putting it down to a bad night and have worked it out of my system by taking down a few 5 buck sngs today, giving myself a lil confidence booster becuase im on a long weekend and plan to go again tonight for the 50$ tournie, i see it as a good experience last night though as it really rattled me that i played so bad and i thought about what i'd been doing wrong for a long time when i got home, gonna go again tonight with aggression at the fore front of my mind and play like i've got a pair lol

Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks
 
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You can be more aggro online also because your stack will typically be deeper with a slower blind structure (sure there may be less clock time, but you'll see more hands per blind when you play online). This sets up a little more 'poker' play because you can lay down hands. You'll have to pick your spots a little more effectively live--especially in the early rounds (which brings up a whole bigger topic of how do you really want to screw around in the early cheap rounds).

I really don't think there is a lot of advice that you don't already know. Stay patient, watch your position, and keep an eye on the other players for tellsa dn what kind of cards they play.

I've heard many people say sitting at the poker table is a war. If you're in the forces, that should be easy to relate to so go in with that attitude. :)

Best of luck.
 
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I am naturally a quiet type of person, but that actually helps my live play I think. I rarely give away any info, because I am not answering or talking enough for them to get a read. I think that you have an advantage there already. Next just remember that you are playing for money, that usually helps me to keep concentrated. One thing that I find is that I need to be more patient live, since I do not get to play in very many hands. When we are used to playing online, we get spoiled by being able to be in a hand every minute or so. Live play your normal A poker game. Be tight, then super aggressive. Play position and take advantage of anyone that is weak at the table. Bleed them out and get as many of their chips as possible before they get knocked out. Stay away from the chipleader and try to avoid big pots with stacks that are bigger than you. You obviously already know how to play good poker, you just need to focus on transferring that into playing live. Discipline is the key, and I think that you probably have alot of it.
 
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Sounds like you just need to get settled into the live poker environment.

It's a big adjustment to make at first - you've gotta get used to handling cards and chips, having other players physically staring you down, the fact that not everything has numbers attached to it (I can size bets in my sleep online, because the potsize is always in front of me - not the case live)... and that's before you get started on the sometimes nitty or confusing rules.

I'd just give it another couple of goes at low stakes (even bar leagues, if you have them near you) and slowly get yourself used to the environment. You'll find you'll settle in pretty quick.

Happy to answer any rules / etiquitte questions if any of that's tripping you up.
 
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I started playing poker live and have had the same difficult time adjusting to online play. So much so I don't play online for money anymore. Live play is more about reads and bluffs IMO. Of course there is also a large amount of playing "correct" poker, but if I can't get a read on someone I NEVER bluff them. Online it's tuff to get a read and I know some say that there are some reads, but to be completely honest I can't pick-up on them.
 
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orangepeeleo

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hey guys,

thanks for the advice, i went again to venlo last night and played 20 times better than i did on thursday, my first table was very tight so constant aggression from the off, got unlucky near the first break when my A10 hit top 2 pair on the flop but was beaten when 1st pos checked then pushed all in for another 100 on top of my 400 cont bet with KJd ,i called but he hit a diamond on the river for his flush and i was calling for a rebuy with my stack down to 300 before the first break.

As i was short stack on my table after the break, because everyone had added on, i decided i was goin to push it all in, preferably in late position, when the pot preflop was over 3/4's of my stack, got this opportunity 2 hands in when in the CO the pre-flop pot had built up to 800 and i pushed my 1100 chips in with 99 and everyone folded giving me a healthy boost, ended up on the final table, although i was an extreme short stack by then and only lasted 4 hands before going out in 8th when my Q10 was met with the chip leaders 55.

Overall a hell of a lot better than thursday night, in terms of my aggression in the early stages anyway, kinda clammed up after the break because by then a lot of pots were being raised and i just wasnt getting the hands to push with, so... need to work on later stage aggresion, gonna read up on inflection points and M again and try and put it into practice next friday, but overall a good night and definetly a confidence boost after thursdays debacle :D

Thanks for the advice guys
 
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