Many newcomers to poker believe that the most important thing in the game is luck. In fact, this is not so. Professional players believe that only 10% of success depends on luck in poker, and the remaining 90% depends on the player’s skills. Experienced players can even win with the obviously worse cards among their rivals. I use various psychological techniques and expertly bluffing you can beat an opponent with the best combinations on the table, but what’s your opinion?

I thought that luck was more than 10% but of course the most deciding is personal skills. I would say also that really important in poker is patience. Without patience you won't achieve something big

You can observe the truth in this just by looking at cc leader boards 1 person tops almost every list and the same handful of people always follow suit. What are they just real lucky?

If you rely on poker luck then get ready for the loss of your funds! If you are a beginner my advice is to first read the basic rules of poker, there are many books, articles about poker.

I think luck plays a bigger factor in the short run than people realize. Whether or not you win or lose in a session is highly dependent on luck, but over time it begins to balance and favors making good decisions. The longer you can keep your head and count the sklansky dollars instead of the $ involved than eventually the odds will break your way imo .

Luck is going to win a lot of hands but I think over a long period of time the person who relies on luck goes broke. Skill and patience have to be the 2 things I would rather have in the game of poker.

Bankroll management overrides both. Without that as the fundamental foundation, it's all whistling past the graveyard. Nobody cares how skilled, lucky, or unlucky one was when they're broke. Except for the person that got broke. Harsh but the truth.

Originally Posted by JRTHEKING

Bankroll management overrides both. Without that as the fundamental foundation, it's all whistling past the graveyard. Nobody cares how skilled, lucky, or unlucky one was when they're broke. Except for the person that got broke. Harsh but the truth.

Think this says alot. You can be as skilled as any and if you dont use proper BRM none of it matters
With that said i think plays much more a roll in online poker then it does in live poker. Just isnt near as much info online to gain as live. So many more tells live.
Good luck on the felt everyone

Originally Posted by JRTHEKING

Bankroll management overrides both. Without that as the fundamental foundation, it's all whistling past the graveyard. Nobody cares how skilled, lucky, or unlucky one was when they're broke. Except for the person that got broke. Harsh but the truth.

Yes. I agree that managing money is the hardest and most important.

Short term - luck, long term - skill

Of course, luck in poker is needed. But I agree with the professionals. Success in poker depends on how the player feels the game, feels the actions of opponents and how he can play different hands. The more experienced the player, the more chances he has to win. Loose players fully hope for good luck. Tight players, first of all, hope for their experience and then for good luck.

I would say skill, poker is littered people who won a big prize once and never got close again. But when players win consistently or place consistently over the span on 4-5 years then surely it can't be luck. No one runs good for years??

long haul, luck is when preparation meets opportunity. some guys make final table at WSOP ME, or win it, only to fall off face of the poker world for a myriad of reasons. yes, luck is important, but if you put yourself in good positions to win any given hand over and over, your bankroll will head in the right direction.

also, have to take chances here and there and hope to bink something, whether it's a higher buy in cash game or a tourney. dont be scared to take shots, just not all the time. calculated risk, as always.

If you only hope for luck, you will get little profit. This doesn't just apply to poker.

If we talk about tournaments, then on the final table you can’t do without luck)

I think luck is more than 10% of it. Some tournaments you might get pocket A's preflop two or three times. Other times it seems like you wont get any good hands.

In pokerstars is more than 10% .....

I think that online poker luck is a major component of the game, but luck and skill requires practice.

Luck is necessary to be a winner but it’s nit the most important aspect. Poker is a skill that requires the ability to read an opponent, aggression, especially at the most opportune time, patience, discipline. Discipline to be able to fold aces or a big hand when its called for. Mathematical ability and being able to deduce probabilities and likelihood of what cards may or may not come up. Self control is key, especially being able to handle tilt and the emotional swings that losing a big pot. Luck is certainly on the list of what attribute will make a good player but its not number one.

I'm relatively new to playing Poker, casual micro stakes for a couple years now.

Whenever i catch myself thinking it's a game of luck i tend to play more reckless and loose and ultimately start losing money.

When i refresh myself and come back to the game more focused and determined to play correctly my balance starts to go back up.

Just my personal observation.

I agree that luck is a big part of any gambling situation but in Poker, at times the game type being played is just as important. I recently played in a $3-$6 Limit hold'em game and quickly found that due to the low cost of blinds that most players called and limped all the way to the river, hence luck on card draws was a factor however getting to the River was more of a $ cost than either luck or skill. Invariably those players with mediocre hands would catch and win on the river..Skill - nope, Luck-nope just stick to it ness and no concern for cost.

Originally Posted by Redbull199030

Many newcomers to poker believe that the most important thing in the game is luck. In fact, this is not so. Professional players believe that only 10% of success depends on luck in poker, and the remaining 90% depends on the player’s skills. Experienced players can even win with the obviously worse cards among their rivals. I use various psychological techniques and expertly bluffing you can beat an opponent with the best combinations on the table, but what’s your opinion?

Skill in poker brings good money, but luck in poker can bring you a lot of money

In the short term a luck advantage is always more significant than a skill advantage. If you manage to cooler the competition in massive pots it doesn't really matter how much better they are than you. If it wasn't for this losing players would pack up and leave

In addition to luck, controlling your emotions is a very important aspect of the game. I often lose because of my lack of control over myself. It is also very important to use bluffing properly and effectively. And of course it is necessary to constantly change the strategy in the tournament and even in a separate handout so that no one can understand what you have in your pocket ...

Without skill your luck doesnt matter. Just 1% skill is all you need to the 50/50

No ones said ‘ the best software ‘ i say ban all 3rd party software! Its not skill when charts/graphs are tracking my every move instead of the player.

BRM is pretty darn important, patience and luck. I dont consider myself to be very good but my % increase from original deposits pretty great especially when my very losing % sports bets are factored in.

There is an element of luck, but the key is getting the odds in your favor. Luck is not a constant. However, if you keep getting your money in as the favorite, you will be a winner in the long run.

Hi everyone.

I think that in the short term luck influences a lot (I don't know the percentage), but it is assumed, according to those who know, that in the long term the skill is imposed and, beyond the bad times, good players win over bad players.
Greetings.

You can be the best player in the world, but you won't win anything if you are unlucky enough to lose 80/20 or 70/30 spots

Of course, luck is an integral part of poker.But when you play at a long distance, you can immediately notice that luck has nothing to do with it)

Of course it is important is 40% of the game you can have many skills to play but if there is no luck you will have little chance of winning

I think that luck in poker is something mental, if you play and you know how to play well, luck will come alone.

I think luck is not the most important thing in poker. Luck comes to those poker players, who are constantly improving their skills. But anyway, I'm glad that luck matters.

Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.
Seneca

The way I view poker is,
"The person who makes the least amount of mistakes put themselves in the best position to cash however even the best player can only do so much with no cards".

So yes luck or variance will play a major part in it.

its a game of skill.

Originally Posted by stylebender72

its a game of skill.

I agree with you luck def is not the most important thing. When it comes to poker if your gonna be a winner in the end you gotta have skill

Actually luck always helps in short term but on a long distance there's no way

That reminds me of when i got a hole in one, and when i told the gang at work some said oh that was just blind luck.
Well that luck was brought about by many rounds of practice and grinding.
So no doubt ,what they call luck took a lot of work to get to that place to make it possible .
Poker is the same, use your skill learn, practice, grind, etc and they will see that you seem to be luckier than most.

One great leveler in poker is the last turn of the cards and lady luck plays her hand.

We can, one and all, big ourselves up endlessly about luck and how we circumvent the bad side of luck by playing skillfully, but really that's a lot of nonsense.

People do not play hand after hand with 'any two hands' and contrary to the impression many give, the vast majority of players do not bluff regularly either. More often they semi-bluff when pushing an edge - they have equity to one degree or another. However, most hands which reach showdown depend on hand strength, and to be holding a strong hand you need the luck of having been dealt one in the first place.

We all have fundamental skill sets, and most here study the game and are ambitious to improve. But I know when I am 'running bad' (my game alters little and if anything should incrementally improve with time and study) so when I do 'run good' I don't sit around and pat myself on the back. Yes, I can have had a great session and make some great calls- I can say I played well. But the proviso is (generally), I got the cards to do so....and that is luck dependent more than most like to admit.

The most important thing in poker is a fresh mind and Smart moves....

Good evening everyone.
Certainly the luck factor is one of the most important elements in poker.
I usually watch high level poker players, and I see that they are players who usually win a lot of All in, with medium and strong hands.
In my case, I lose a lot of All in with premium hands, I went All in against 2 players.
Hero KK
villain 1 with 99
villain 2 with JJ
Result I lost for both, one made three and another made a sequence.
If I win this All in I would be in first positions with the result I was practically eliminated.
The luck factor is very important, in addition to other factors.
That my opinion.

Good evening everyone.
Certainly the luck factor is one of the most important elements in poker.
I usually watch high level poker players, and I see that they are players who usually win a lot of All in, with medium and strong hands.
In my case, I lose a lot of All in with premium hands, I went All in against 2 players.
Hero KK
villain 1 with 99
villain 2 with JJ
Result I lost for both, one made three and another made a sequence.
If I win this All in I would be in first positions with the result I was practically eliminated.
The luck factor is very important, in addition to other factors.
That my opinion.

It seems like luck but its actually a calculated hit on cards. Its easy to see if someone has it or is bluffing. However, when you go in with a hand where a card is probably coming you can get them to bet and nail on river. There are some people on on line poker that don't believe this so they do it back at you with no rhyme or reason with the cards. I would like to see them in real cards.

I also want to say that in the game a lot depends on your experience of the game, but it is on different types of games, if you play long MTT tournaments or sit-and-go games or somewhere in the game cache, then experience and skill of the game are very necessary there, and if the game takes place in tournaments where the stakes increase very quickly and you can’t concentrate in the game where all the players go all-in all the time it depends on luck, but I think that somewhere 80% to 90% of the skill and the rest depends on luck

Luck is a factor... You might be able to bluff from time to time, but you need the luck that your opponent is not sitting there with the nuts to make it work....

You also need luck with great hands. Because you will only win a lot of chips when you are lucky enough for one opponent to have a strong hand to pay you.

Skill is more important in live games where you can really get tells from opponents. It is much harder to read an oppoonent online, so luck is a bigger factor online i think.

As you go from the short-term to the long-term luck becomes less and less of an important factor for winning but even very high variance low blind stuctures have a skill edge to be realized the more you accumulate hands but this narrows down as blinds decrease until you reach 1 blind

It depends on situation on the table. Once you need luck with hand, otherwise you need to show your poker skills.

i dont think its so much luck, i mean sure luck has somthing to do with it im sure, it comes down to how you present your self at a table, your habbits, etc