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Have you ever been in a situation where you fold your hand preflop and you kind of sit there hoping the board doesn't come up with something just to justify that fold? Well that happened to me I threw away an offsuit 8, 10 preflop saying to myself I don't think a 2 pair or straight is coming. Little behold here comes the flop 3, 9, J. Now I have a gut shot straight staring at me with either a Q waiting or a 7 and I'm like please don't show please don't show. A king shows on the turn gave me a sigh of relief. So a 7 pops up on the river in my mind I'm like damn!!. The showdown with the other 2 guys one person had a set of 7s I would've won a straight if I just went with it. Wasn't really an expensive bet to begin with just didn't think a straight was gonna come. Don't y'all hate that when something like this happens? Oh well it's poker. 🤷
 
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If you fold, you're protecting your bankroll. That's what I tell myself anyway, so if good cards come out, I know I didn't do it just on a whim.
If you're way up and nobody can push you all-in, you play a lot looser, right? Because you have extra bankroll.
 
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It happens many times but the important thing is to know that the right thing was done, the result is circumstantial, so I don't give it much importance:jd4::jd4::jd4::jd4:
 
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You won't make a long term profit play T8o every time its dealt to you. That's your justification for folding it. Don't look at results after you fold it.
 
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U need to remember the door swings both ways, remember that u could of hit the seven on the turn and the board then pairs on the river giving the set of sevens , a full house. Sometime u prefold just to hit the flop and then coolered on the turn or river, which u would never have gotten away from the hand losing a lot.
 
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After the flop you would have been holding 8-9-10-J, that is an up & down straight draw, not a gut shot draw. Not trying to be picky here, but you are looking at any 7 or any Q, 8 outs total. Gut shot would be 4 of 5 straight cards one of middle 3 missing, only 4 outs. 2 questions, do you really believe there is nothing going on at the table that would merit your attention more than the results of a hand you are not involved in? Do you really believe mid level not suited connectors are so potentially powerful that you have to agonize over folding them pre flop? You did not mention position although that would certainly need to factor into your decision. Paying attention to the play of your opponents still in the hand is much more important than focusing on what ifs.
 
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The main thing is to do the right actions and it doesn't matter which turn or river comes up !!!
 
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Its hard to do but i still try to train myself not to think about the hand after i fold as long as its a good preflop fold. If you fold something like j6 pre after a raise and the flop comes jj6, the majority of the time its a good fold so i just try to forget about the hand after it goes in the muck
 
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There are such parties every day. But I guess, it is not your fault if you have 2 7 preflop and the flop is 2 7 2 or you have 5 2 and the flop is 5 5 5. It can easily happen (it will happen). It would be the best not to see the party after you fold your cards.
 
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Its hard to do but i still try to train myself not to think about the hand after i fold as long as its a good preflop fold. If you fold something like j6 pre after a raise and the flop comes jj6, the majority of the time its a good fold so i just try to forget about the hand after it goes in the muck


I'm trying to train myself to fold more cause I do play too many hands at times.
 
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Have you ever been in a situation where you fold your hand preflop and you kind of sit there hoping the board doesn't come up with something just to justify that fold?

Well that happened to me I threw away an offsuit 8, 10 preflop saying to myself I don't think a 2 pair or straight is coming. Little behold here comes the flop 3, 9, J. Now I have a gut shot straight staring at me with either a Q waiting or a 7 and I'm like please don't show please don't show. A king shows on the turn gave me a sigh of relief. So a 7 pops up on the river in my mind I'm like damn!!. The showdown with the other 2 guys one person had a set of 7s I would've won a straight if I just went with it. Wasn't really an expensive bet to begin with just didn't think a straight was gonna come. Don't y'all hate that when something like this happens? Oh well it's poker. ��
...no. if i fold a hand, i'm done with it. whatever shows on the board doesn't matter. sure, i've flopped straights, boats, and quads before and it's a good laugh to think 'oh man, if only!' but i don't get caught up in it. i just think of the 99/100 times i folded and missed.

if the pot was small, this might not apply but you have to remember that the hand itself may have not played out in the same way if you were involved. you would've won the hand had you played and everything was the same, but what would you have done if there if, for example, was 3 suits on the board and you were facing a large bet? a large raise? even if your opponents had the same hands, you might not have even gotten to the river. so, you can't just look at a hand you could've won and think "i should have played" because things could've played out completely differently with you involved.
 
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I sometimes play too many hands too. Its hard when u have a large stack to fold everytime ur supposed to
 
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It is a very good fold since 10 8 are not cards to call in any position. I would tell you that you played them perfectly and you will always have situations like this but you should not lose concentration and continue playing your poker.
 
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If you have folded a hand then the hand is over. No matter what is on the table. you had reasons why you had folded your hand preflop and these reasons don't just change because the situation at the table has changed because you couldn't have foreseen it.
 
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Have you ever been in a situation where you fold your hand preflop and you kind of sit there hoping the board doesn't come up with something just to justify that fold? Well that happened to me I threw away an offsuit 8, 10 preflop saying to myself I don't think a 2 pair or straight is coming. Little behold here comes the flop 3, 9, J. Now I have a gut shot straight staring at me with either a Q waiting or a 7 and I'm like please don't show please don't show. A king shows on the turn gave me a sigh of relief. So a 7 pops up on the river in my mind I'm like damn!!. The showdown with the other 2 guys one person had a set of 7s I would've won a straight if I just went with it. Wasn't really an expensive bet to begin with just didn't think a straight was gonna come. Don't y'all hate that when something like this happens? Oh well it's poker. 🤷
It is my understanding that a gut shot straight draw is an inside straight draw, not an outside. What happened to you happens to me all the time. Happens a lot to tight, aggressive players. According to what you wrote, you basically only had 8 outs after the flop, that made you almost a 3 to 1 underdog to anyone holding a jack. There are circumstances that may warrant pursuing the straight, but more times than not you'll lose. Then again, I witnessed novice players draw to inside straights all night and win a majority of them if not all of them.
 
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No, this never happens to me. The cards I fold have never made a winning hand. I'm joking of course. I folded 4,5 suited in Vegas and it made a str8 flush and in that casino at that time they've gave you $500 just for doing that and there was also a lot of action in the hand. Boy was I feeling bad.
 
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Have you ever been in a situation where you fold your hand preflop and you kind of sit there hoping the board doesn't come up with something just to justify that fold? Well that happened to me I threw away an offsuit 8, 10 preflop saying to myself I don't think a 2 pair or straight is coming. Little behold here comes the flop 3, 9, J. Now I have a gut shot straight staring at me with either a Q waiting or a 7 and I'm like please don't show please don't show. A king shows on the turn gave me a sigh of relief. So a 7 pops up on the river in my mind I'm like damn!!. The showdown with the other 2 guys one person had a set of 7s I would've won a straight if I just went with it. Wasn't really an expensive bet to begin with just didn't think a straight was gonna come. Don't y'all hate that when something like this happens? Oh well it's poker. 🤷
It happens a lot, when you don't open a set on the flop, and you had four of a kind and 4 people go all in lol.

But think of it this way, if you folded, it was mathematically correct, so it doesn't matter what happens after that action.

Remember that luck is an element that practically unravels in the long run.
 
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I also like to see what he could have set up, even though the hand was really bad for calling, but hey, it usually happens that he sets something up, but never mind, as long as he played well, I'm calm.
 
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yes of course . especially in the past it happened to me so often . i throw away a hand just to stay "tight" and bam i would have hit a full house ....

you know what i do since then ? i play more loose on later positions . i will even call / raise with Q-7s for example when i am on the button . and i play suited connectors from most positions too
 
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I think the same, I have the same expectation of not coming. But you made the right decision. It's better to try better cards, only play hands like this if you have a good position and a high bankroll to keep calling, if you keep calling every hand, you'll be spending your chips for nothing waiting for something to come and the other players will realize this and take advantage of you at the table.
 
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