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I play poker on the online platform and have never played live games, but I have some questions about the game. The live game I watched only through the TV and some things caught my attention, like the use of glasses, earphones and caps
Seeing it seem harmless the uses of such devices, but as I am public tender and all these are prohibited to avoid fraud, I think that in poker should as well.
The headphones can be plugged in for some communicator radio, and it is passing information about the game to some particular player, remembering that part of the game is filmed live, including the player's cards and those of the table.
The glasses can contain special lens that visualize some kind of marks and even special paints that paint the deck, which to the naked eye can not be detected and through these glasses yes. I know that for many the glasses are a way to defend their facial expression in the same so the opponent does not have a reading of their game, it is true, but the other side exists.
Hats and caps, once I saw a picture caught red-handed for defrauding a test, she'd put caps and caps on her comparsas. Through these caps and caps she put a device installed near a small headset, where she passed the information on the questions of the tests.
I know that many of you are lovers of poker and that this for many is nothing more than a conspiracy, but I say, even if you rely on newsstands, all care is little and that the absence of these objects makes the poker even suspicious.
 
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Fraud and Poker

My friend,

whilst i have no doubt that in certain establishments in the past, the examples of cheating using the techniques, devices etc you mention of course occurred..

Today? I have complete faith, why you may ask?

Scrutiny, legislation, external checks, public money increasing and that in order for online and live poker to be attractive, it has to be clean and transparent.

There is too much money to be lost to run the risk of cheating now..

I wish you well and remember - keep your cards covered up at all times! :)

Pirateglenn:D
 
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So the hope is that with the advances of the game and the increase of players, the inspection will increase, because it is not only in poker but in all sports there are frauds, and speaking in poker we have to take care of poker.
 
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your right, all of these things are possible. I'll say this though....

Look what happen with Absolute poker. If you don't know, Ill make a long story short. He took Millions from high roller players by creaking the coding of the game to see all hole cards....


because of this Absolute was shut down, and for their developers, and staff will always hold the burden of that sin for the rest of their professional careers.


Does it happen? I'm sure it does.


But once you are caught you might as well kiss your chances of ever playing as a world redound star out the window. Cause no one is gonna play with you, and there isn't an establishment in the world that would let you play after that. Assuming you didn't catch a charge for cheating like you would in Vegas....


Now you could say the establishment is behind it, and they have prop players communicating. The gaming commission would shut them down faster then you could say "Bad Beat".


Now to be devils advocate. Yea, I agree, it could be happening, but if it was happening they are good/bad enough to keep it hidden. To keep it hidden they would need to let some of the action slip though so it doesn't look like they are colluding. If this is the case that means not only will they never get caught, but they really aren't that great at maximizing profits. Figuring they let some money slip through so they don't get caught.
 
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Umm online poker all you need is a phone to your buddy on the other computer to play against unexpected opponents. Why go through more of a problem thinking to cheat at live poker.
 
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Frauds are the parasites of Poker because who will give credit to lose money. If the dispute is legal, the game grows will always have people interested.
 
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It is true that the more transparent the poker, serious and honest, the more it will grow
 
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I think you are exaggerating.
Not everything is so bad.
Good luck.
 
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Of course I am for honest poker,no or auxiliary programs, and so on.The game in my opinion would be different...
 
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I did not play live poker at the casino, for me the game is only online, there are a lot of scammers in games, you need to be very careful in such situations and look at players who have glasses or headphones so that we do not fall for the bait to such players, I think that in online poker also has a lot of scammers, but poker rooms block those players who install fraudulent programs, such players are few or no in online poker rooms at all!
 
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The issue is the live tournaments, I noticed that there are many people using these provisions, in this we may suspect that some of them are hiding something and others not. It is clear that the stalls if they are to defraud the game will put some with something and some will not.
If we play poker we have to observe these situations, even because what will be of poker if there is no player.
 
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your right, all of these things are possible. I'll say this though....

Look what happen with Absolute poker. If you don't know, Ill make a long story short. He took Millions from high roller players by creaking the coding of the game to see all hole cards....


because of this Absolute was shut down, and for their developers, and staff will always hold the burden of that sin for the rest of their professional careers.


Does it happen? I'm sure it does.


But once you are caught you might as well kiss your chances of ever playing as a world redound star out the window. Cause no one is gonna play with you, and there isn't an establishment in the world that would let you play after that. Assuming you didn't catch a charge for cheating like you would in Vegas....


Now you could say the establishment is behind it, and they have prop players communicating. The gaming commission would shut them down faster then you could say "Bad Beat".


Now to be devils advocate. Yea, I agree, it could be happening, but if it was happening they are good/bad enough to keep it hidden. To keep it hidden they would need to let some of the action slip though so it doesn't look like they are colluding. If this is the case that means not only will they never get caught, but they really aren't that great at maximizing profits. Figuring they let some money slip through so they don't get caught.
The 'old days' were more easy, you were just shot when caught cheating.
 
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I play poker on the online platform and have never played live games, but I have some questions about the game. The live game I watched only through the TV and some things caught my attention, like the use of glasses, earphones and caps
Seeing it seem harmless the uses of such devices, but as I am public tender and all these are prohibited to avoid fraud, I think that in poker should as well.
The headphones can be plugged in for some communicator radio, and it is passing information about the game to some particular player, remembering that part of the game is filmed live, including the player's cards and those of the table.
The glasses can contain special lens that visualize some kind of marks and even special paints that paint the deck, which to the naked eye can not be detected and through these glasses yes. I know that for many the glasses are a way to defend their facial expression in the same so the opponent does not have a reading of their game, it is true, but the other side exists.
Hats and caps, once I saw a picture caught red-handed for defrauding a test, she'd put caps and caps on her comparsas. Through these caps and caps she put a device installed near a small headset, where she passed the information on the questions of the tests.
I know that many of you are lovers of poker and that this for many is nothing more than a conspiracy, but I say, even if you rely on newsstands, all care is little and that the absence of these objects makes the poker even suspicious.

one of the twitch guys, andrew neeme (??) was talking about those diveces one time and said something along the lines of "if you sit down at a table with a bunch of young guys wearing headphones find a new table." but this reason was that those are guys intending to be there all day, well prepared for the grind, skilled, etc. what you want is a table full of alcoholic beverages, people talking and laughing, having fun etc. that will be an easier table to beat....not because there's any cheating but because of the skill difference.
 
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I did not play live poker at the casino, for me the game is only online, there are a lot of scammers in games, you need to be very careful in such situations and look at players who have glasses or headphones so that we do not fall for the bait to such players, I think that in online poker also has a lot of scammers, but poker rooms block those players who install fraudulent programs, such players are few or no in online poker rooms at all!


WHAT???
You are much more likely to be cheated on-line than live.
Common sense.
 
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Who look TritonPoker?
Cash yesterday 1.000.000eoro 2000/4000 blinds omg
 
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Hi.
Maybe I am wrong, but you have some paranoid thoughts.
I enjoy the game, I try to improve my skills every day and try to achieve my goals. I have no need to think about whether players are playing in glasses, headphones, or even caps with scarves. Such thoughts are absolutely superfluous for me.
Good luck.
 
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For my live poker it is more interesting because you can talk, laugh, share with other players, people who play any used accessories. Eh also seen in some live tournaments use these device but everyone is free to select the accessories she wears. As for the fraud I do not think ahiga in major tournaments, for control there and the number of cameras filming everything there. regards
 
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I have never played a live tournament, but if I have to participate, somebody organized by a known bank may be any poker bank that already plays in international online poker.
In addition to the risks of fraud, there is also the issue of personal security, certainly an already known bank will be careful because it has a reputation to defend.
 
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