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[Kenzie 96]

See you Dingo, step #1 is not admiting there is a problem Step #1 is admitting you have a problem. Here is a hint, if you think you need the US Congress to fix your problem you are still in denial. More seriously, Roundcat, please don't give those old drunks in DC any ideas.

 

[Alon Ipser]

I wish you good health Dingo. You have taken the first step in fighting your addiction and that is to admit that you have it. Of course you know the next step, and that is to get help. As a person who has fought his own addictions, I tell you it is no good to just stop as I am sure you have tried in the past. You can quit for a while but you know sooner or later you will be back at gambling in one form or another. You need to get help.
Some people beleive it is just a matter of self control but they do not realize that with addiction their is no self control. Realize that this is a disease and not a weakness in character and as any disease you need to get help to fight it. Do it now before the denial sets in.

 

[tenbob]

Sorry to see you go Dingo. But your totally correct in what you say, and i applaud you for explaining to us why.

Guys poker especially texas holdem is a game of math. Thats why we have winners and losers, you regularly take advantage of small edges, and dont call because you have a "chance of winning if the A comes". If you think otherwise then your gambling, not playing the game at your 100% ability.

How many ppl here would be able to make a quick estimation on a nut flush draw with 2 overs on a rag board with a pot sized bet into you ?

Me thinks few. Poker is NOT luck OR Gambling, its about pushing small edges so that the whole thing evens out over time and you make your 2% profit. Simple. If you dont get that, or understand the concepts involved then your gambling. Go play pool or darts or something else you have an edge at

 

[Dingodaddy23]

everyone missed the f***ing point. It's not like I dont know WTF I'm doing, all the people that replied witht he poker is not gambling crap like Mr. Sticker couldnt hold my jock strap in a game... but playing for too high of stakes IS gambling. And yes, I already do feel the urge to play again. And also... I thought about this today. Every time I've ever went to the real casino, I've NEVER had a problem like this... I've went, won or lost, and left. I've walked into a casino and left 5 grand richer, and I was counting my cash, the thought of going to sit at a 100/200 hold'em game NEVER even crossed my mind. And I've left a few grand poorer and was able to just chalk it up. I used to frequent the casino often back in the day when I made 3-4k a week, and never ONCE have I felt the way I do now about gambling online. I dunno why I even came to the forum today.... prolly just to see what everyone had to say, but all the replies talking about whether poker is gambling or not missed the entire point.

 

[shortstacked]

if you think you ahve a gambling problem, like everyone said SEEK HELP, if not play or dont play, me personaly I could care less, I play everyday, some days you win and some you loose, crap happens, suck it and and do what you need to do, were all here to listen and help if we can, all in all if you can handle it maybe you should'nt play anymore

 

[Alon Ipser]

everyone missed the f***ing point.

No, not all of us missed the point but I think you did. Making online poker doesn't fix your problem. Cocaine is illegal and I managed to get it whenever I wanted or needed. Making your problem illegal doesn't fix it. You need to fix the problem.

 

[potheads1968]

Wow Dingodaddy23! I understand how you feel only my situation is a little differant with the same stress. I'd be lying if i say my boyfriend has the gambling prolem because i love to gamble too. Only when I know I can afford it though. Since My boyfriend and I started online poker we (HE) has put us so far in debt. It causes A LOT of stress. No matter how many times I'd tell him "Do not withdraw any money from my account unless you go to the bank (night deposit or not) and deposit it FIRST! I owe two banks over $500.00 each. Fire Pay around $500.00 click2pay same. my credit cards are maxed, my boyfriend even owes his friend around $500 because he let him use the card ONCE but left it here overnight! ut the worst part of it all is that i would be literally begging and crying asking him not to overdraw my account ut he just couldnt help it. He would argue what im saying though because i did help spend it. but i think if its going to cause me so much stress later, and i cant stop him from doing it, i might as well enjoy the fun of gambling while it lasts ya know! It really sucks now though. we havn't had and extra dollar to spend or even carry in our pocket since this began, and i agree its really depressing. It actually makes me scared for my future health, because of the stress and everything eles it causes.
opinions please - who needs help -him-me-both-neither

 

[smd173]

Gambling - "To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit."

?? Do you know the other player's cards when you play? OR do you know you're always going to make money? I sure don't...and I don't think anyone can make that claim..

I honestly think you might have a problem yourself, by making that statement. What that problem is...I'm of course unsure of...but you're surely in denial.

Come on now...everyone knows poker is really just a strategic money management game of skill and luck. I think there is a legal version of it all ready called the STOCK MARKET!

 

[blankoblanco]

potheads, is your boyfriend playing beyond his limits? What kind of games does he play and for what stakes? There's obviously a self-control issue for your boyfriend, and maybe yourself. I'm assuming he and maybe you are playing at too high stakes. I'm sure you can appreciate that poker is a game of odds, so you should see that the odds of going broke when playing well above your bankroll limits is very high, no matter how good you are. Playing within your limits will allow you to recover from inevitable bad luck streaks. There's a bankroll guide here that could help some. https://www.cardschat.com/building-bankroll-from-scratch.php

If your boyfriend refuses to change his ways with all the stress this is causing, he should probably get help, and if you feel you have any addiction or self-control issues, you could definitely go with him and help each other through it.

 

[Tammy]

Potheads, I can understand your strife. But what your going through with poker is also what a lot of people go through with the mismanagement of their credit, as well. The simple fact of the matter is: if you don't have the actual money to play poker (or buy that new toy/shoes/outfit/whatever) DON'T use a credit card! It will only get you in trouble in the long run.

If you can't trust your boyfriend to not dip into the credit or bank account, DON'T LET HIM. Hide your cards, change your PIN, etc. etc. If you can't stop yourself, then it's time to cut-up the cards and get some counseling.

It comes down to living within your means. In all areas of life, not just playing poker, if you try to live beyond your means (i.e. spending money you don't have) you'll only dig a big hole for yourself that in the long run is difficult to climb out of.

 

[wsorbust]

everyone missed the f***ing point.

I don't believe so Dingo. I DO believe we saw the points you made, even though the thread went slightly off-course...gl.