A few days ago I played a tournament here at Pokerstars, Cardschat at Platinum level, and I even commented that the level of players in that tournament was very good in general, we always find players who play a little looser, some who call with bad hands, but in In my humble opinion I think the level is better than I expected, not that I'm a great player, but I've always tried to play well by the rules. I would like to know the opinion of friends, thanks lol.

I think everyone here is constantly looking to improve their game so the field overall is superior to most other micro stakes tournaments as there are so many recreational players who don't focus so much on long term profit, just on instant fun and challenge.

I think we're all good players in our own little ways lol. You will find the full gambit of player types here at cardschat.

Some extremely loose whales, get in any 2 the first hand, play just for the fun (me)

Some extremely tight, only play top 10% of hands, folds unless holding the nuts

Some solid tag, play 15-20% of hands and plays them aggressively ,occasional 3bet

Some loose aggro, play 25-35% of hands, loose 3bets, sticky, likes to get involved

Last but not least a large majority of the players here are loose passive. Like to limp in 40-50% of hands, will check down 4 high 3 streets, puts in piles of chips or overbet jams the flop when they hit the nuts, but only puts in chips when they hit something. Will call you down with 3rd or 4th pair all willy nilly because you "prolly have AK"

Originally Posted by Raphael Zabel

I think everyone here is constantly looking to improve their game

Rare turbo games suggest otherwise though ...

I would also positively assess the level of players - participants of Сardschat. In particular, this applies to players who are already permanent members of the forum.

You can look at the leaderboards and see the money won. There are some very good players here ranging down to not very good exploitive players like me. I dont get to play many freerolls any more but I do enjoy the ones I get in. The amount of money you can win here in freerolls is kinda mindboggling. It will make you improve even though you have no investment but your time. Where else can you see several players with $3K in 6 months from freerolls? Some of thats from buy in games I guess, but the buy ins I see are only like $3.30 entry. So this is the best educational site available. Good videos and guides and a lot of free practice in worthwhile games against some really good players.

Originally Posted by HaroldHouse

The amount of money you can win here in freerolls is kinda mindboggling. Where else can you see several players with $3K in 6 months from freerolls?

Several players? Names please.
I can think of only one player who would realistically do that but he only plays in one room and even there takes advantage of other things aswell rather than relying just on freerolls ...

The level is very high. And I think this is good because it helps us improve and learn from mistakes, we have to take advantage of these tournaments where, despite being freerolls, they have a high level

Originally Posted by Risto234

Several players? Names please.
I can think of only one player who would realistically do that but he only plays in one room and even there takes advantage of other things aswell rather than relying just on freerolls ...

CardsChat Leaderboard - Winners of Poker Freeroll & Buyin Competitions
The top 73 in this list have over $1K in winnings this year.
The top 4 over $4K each

Ill make try to make this constructive so folks don't think its just a simple bash on the community which it isn't.

So I played more than a few Cardschat freerolls on ACR from Jan to April of this year here and there and found only a few players that would be winning players without depending on freerolls to keep them from going broke.

And again, I don't mean in a negative way but too many of them were doing silly beginner moves like going all in like the 1st few levels of a tourn with some drawing hand AK, AQ, or small pairs etc.

Even if they did have a premium hand like AA, KK they still shoved hoping to get a beginner to call when they were really wasting that hand not getting any callers or getting like a few other callers in the hand and they would go bust with that premium hand. They weren't trying to isolate and play a flop.

And that leads to the next thing that they weren't trying to do and that's play flops to extract value from players which is a key sign that you're not a beginner in nl holdem.

Most of them again wanted to simplify the game into an all in preflop game where the beginner has a chance to beat a more experienced player who wants to play a flop, tries to put someone on a hand, then evaluate a board and play accordingly.

And when they were short stacked what were they doing? Did they know what hands to go with or were they again trying to simplify the game saying "I have 10 BBs I have an Ace in early position and end up shoving with Ace little when another person might wait til they're in middle late, late position and get that same hand and be able to identify a few tight players after them and try that same move with 6, 7 or 8BBs.

Or lets say you had a big stack and we're near the money and you lose a big pot but you can still cash because you still have a lot chips compared to the field then I was looking to see if you could hunker down, realize the situation and play your best to grind out a cash but what did I see the majority of the time?

I saw what I expected from beginners who would not shift gears and just gave up on the next hand, going all in with some silly trash hand and going bust before cashing.

The post is long enough and there are so many things to look for but I would say a lot of them were on the beginner level, finding their way and enjoying the games and that's fine.

I would say that I enjoyed playing the majority of freerolls with the community on ACR but towards the end with so many sit outs and the folks not even knowing starting hands and the all in preflops it was like ugh I had enough and didn't play too many afterwards, lol.

Originally Posted by HaroldHouse

CardsChat Leaderboard - Winners of Poker Freeroll & Buyin Competitions
The top 73 in this list have over $1K in winnings this year.
The top 4 over $4K each

This TOP73 shows probably what these individuals have won ever since joining this site ...
That TOP4 you mentioned have been here nearly 10 years or so therefore that kind of amounts are probably understandable - for example i have been here like 4 years (and few months) but have won only like 383$ or so over the years - absolutely an average result ...


On average winner in (most) cardchat freerolls is getting something between 20-190$ (depending on tournaments prizepool) so it would be kinda difficult even for these very best ones to get few thousand in couple months just by playing our games ...

Originally Posted by BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch

Ill make try to make this constructive so folks don't think its just a simple bash on the community which it isn't.

So I played more than a few Cardschat freerolls on ACR from Jan to April of this year here and there and found only a few players that would be winning players without depending on freerolls to keep them from going broke.

And again, I don't mean in a negative way but too many of them were doing silly beginner moves like going all in like the 1st few levels of a tourn with some drawing hand AK, AQ, or small pairs etc.

Even if they did have a premium hand like AA, KK they still shoved hoping to get a beginner to call when they were really wasting that hand not getting any callers or getting like a few other callers in the hand and they would go bust with that premium hand. They weren't trying to isolate and play a flop.

And that leads to the next thing that they weren't trying to do and that's play flops to extract value from players which is a key sign that you're not a beginner in nl holdem.

Most of them again wanted to simplify the game into an all in preflop game where the beginner has a chance to beat a more experienced player who wants to play a flop, tries to put someone on a hand, then evaluate a board and play accordingly.

And when they were short stacked what were they doing? Did they know what hands to go with or were they again trying to simplify the game saying "I have 10 BBs I have an Ace in early position and end up shoving with Ace little when another person might wait til they're in middle late, late position and get that same hand and be able to identify a few tight players after them and try that same move with 6, 7 or 8BBs.

Or lets say you had a big stack and we're near the money and you lose a big pot but you can still cash because you still have a lot chips compared to the field then I was looking to see if you could hunker down, realize the situation and play your best to grind out a cash but what did I see the majority of the time?

I saw what I expected from beginners who would not shift gears and just gave up on the next hand, going all in with some silly trash hand and going bust before cashing.

The post is long enough and there are so many things to look for but I would say a lot of them were on the beginner level, finding their way and enjoying the games and that's fine.

I would say that I enjoyed playing the majority of freerolls with the community on ACR but towards the end with so many sit outs and the folks not even knowing starting hands and the all in preflops it was like ugh I had enough and didn't play too many afterwards, lol.

Sounds like a good explanation of what's here. Of course, there are also excellent players who take advantage of these weaknesses and manage to capitalize.

good level, hard to get to the final tables (at least in my case). I'm a bit bored by closed players who take a long time to get to the prizes.

Well I see all type of players like in any other mtts

Originally Posted by Gritz18

A few days ago I played a tournament here at Pokerstars, Cardschat at Platinum level, and I even commented that the level of players in that tournament was very good in general, we always find players who play a little looser, some who call with bad hands, but in In my humble opinion I think the level is better than I expected, not that I'm a great player, but I've always tried to play well by the rules. I would like to know the opinion of friends, thanks lol.

Can you expand on what you are asking with the question 'How do you rate the level of CardsChat players?'

Not sure if you're asking for opinions on the ability level of CC players, or instead how to assess what level an individual CC player is at...

It's all relative!

Originally Posted by BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch

Ill make try to make this constructive so folks don't think its just a simple bash on the community which it isn't.

So I played more than a few Cardschat freerolls on ACR from Jan to April of this year here and there and found only a few players that would be winning players without depending on freerolls to keep them from going broke.

And again, I don't mean in a negative way but too many of them were doing silly beginner moves like going all in like the 1st few levels of a tourn with some drawing hand AK, AQ, or small pairs etc.

Even if they did have a premium hand like AA, KK they still shoved hoping to get a beginner to call when they were really wasting that hand not getting any callers or getting like a few other callers in the hand and they would go bust with that premium hand. They weren't trying to isolate and play a flop.

And that leads to the next thing that they weren't trying to do and that's play flops to extract value from players which is a key sign that you're not a beginner in nl holdem.

Most of them again wanted to simplify the game into an all in preflop game where the beginner has a chance to beat a more experienced player who wants to play a flop, tries to put someone on a hand, then evaluate a board and play accordingly.

And when they were short stacked what were they doing? Did they know what hands to go with or were they again trying to simplify the game saying "I have 10 BBs I have an Ace in early position and end up shoving with Ace little when another person might wait til they're in middle late, late position and get that same hand and be able to identify a few tight players after them and try that same move with 6, 7 or 8BBs.

Or lets say you had a big stack and we're near the money and you lose a big pot but you can still cash because you still have a lot chips compared to the field then I was looking to see if you could hunker down, realize the situation and play your best to grind out a cash but what did I see the majority of the time?

I saw what I expected from beginners who would not shift gears and just gave up on the next hand, going all in with some silly trash hand and going bust before cashing.

The post is long enough and there are so many things to look for but I would say a lot of them were on the beginner level, finding their way and enjoying the games and that's fine.

I would say that I enjoyed playing the majority of freerolls with the community on ACR but towards the end with so many sit outs and the folks not even knowing starting hands and the all in preflops it was like ugh I had enough and didn't play too many afterwards, lol.

In my experience you definitely get different types/levels of fields depending on which platform the CC game is being hosted on.

I have had to play with all kinds of players, the first 45 minutes there are many players who play any hand, then I think the majority that remain are those who do take it seriously

most of the players here are good and very nice players in the game of poker; I am very happy with this poker community and it is an honor and a joy for me to be able to play here.

I think there are players of all skill levels, however, even the good players are starting to play more and more loosely due to the field's tendency to not fold. I believe the game is getting more and more like regular frerrols. The only difference I see today from the common free is the amount of player.

It is very difficult to give an accurate gauge on the standard. We don't really know what these free rolls mean to players, are players just playing out of habit, and the prize pot means nothing to their bankroll, and with that, they are just playing very loose (which i see a lot) grinding for 2/3/4 hours for a few bucks. They don't take it seriously.

On the other hand, there are those, that do care about winning some cash to build a bankroll, they play a/b/c poker.

There is a good mix, of all sorts of styles & standards.

High level. My opponents make few mistakes. But it's more pleasant when you manage to win. And this allows you to develop the skill of the game faster or keep yourself in good shape. If you haven't played for a long time, then you can restore the lost tone for free.

I have found that some are very good. Others are frustrating to play against, as they will go all in with any 2 cards.

Originally Posted by Gritz18

A few days ago I played a tournament here at Pokerstars, Cardschat at Platinum level, and I even commented that the level of players in that tournament was very good in general, we always find players who play a little looser, some who call with bad hands, but in In my humble opinion I think the level is better than I expected, not that I'm a great player, but I've always tried to play well by the rules. I would like to know the opinion of friends, thanks lol.

In general, the platinum tournament level in the community is at the microlimit level of $4.4. But most players feel at the level of regulars of low limits. So winning this tournament is worth a lot. Of course, there are players who play very freely and even reach the finals. I attribute this mainly to the fact that these are players with high limits or completely beginners.

There are players of different levels, from happy-go-lucky with any two to pretty solid players. Overall because of the tight group and low AFS (average field size), Cardschat tournaments give an impression that the level is higher then in some similar tournaments, even of a lot higher buy-ins. It's a good practice to level up your game by learning how to play vs different playing styles and types of players, if you gonna play regularly and pay attention.

It is a high level, mainly because there is a lot of learning material on the site, and cause the community is developing itself by advice, discussions tc

I'd say our cardschat players at Platinum level are generally better than your average recreational player and certainly a higher level than most freerolls. It just makes logical sense though: after all, cardschat is a community for learning and poker discussion, so it would make sense the higher levels would be accomplished players.

I still gawk at so many cardschat profiles being League Captains, tournament winners and members who've been on this site longer than I've been playing poker!

In my opinion, even slightly "higher level" than the Platinum games are the Team League and Individual League games by cardschat. It gives me good practice and experience trying to perform well against these cards sharks

Originally Posted by Gritz18

A few days ago I played a tournament here at Pokerstars, Cardschat at Platinum level, and I even commented that the level of players in that tournament was very good in general, we always find players who play a little looser, some who call with bad hands, but in In my humble opinion I think the level is better than I expected, not that I'm a great player, but I've always tried to play well by the rules. I would like to know the opinion of friends, thanks lol.

Here, all forum members have a good level of play, especially platinum members! It looks like you are playing a freeroll, but it feels like you are playing a super expensive tournament! It's very good because we're all trying to improve our game here and try new strategies and that's why the freerolls here are like expensive tournaments and people are trying to play seriously! Good luck at the tables!

At bronze level, it's completely average, like any other non-cardschat tournament. I have no experience of levels above that.

I would say that of course there are a lot of good players on cardschat freerolls, but since this is not a tournament with an entry, sometimes even good players sometimes go down to beginner-level play and play on a trash card. I've always disliked this. In a tournament with an entry, they would not have made such mistakes. Therefore, such incidents reduce these freerolls to the rank of a mediocre game.

Normal level, you can play

Here, as elsewhere, there are different players, but in general, the level of play at the level of "Platinum" is higher than in a regular freeroll !!!

It really depends. There are some good solid ones but also there are some very bad ones.

The thing is, since the tournaments are for free, sometimes some players will just splash around because they dont have enough time to play. I saw the same players play very differently on different occasions.

In general the level of play is a lot better than in normal freerolls but there is still enough bad play left.

Sometimes i see players blinding almost completly out, folding their BB with 1,1 BB and leaving them 0.1 BB. Then i ask myself why do they even play lol.

I rate it as "above average"

I have found good opponents, who play with conscience, without joking, great sportsmen. congratulations to all of the CC

Originally Posted by Gritz18

A few days ago I played a tournament here at Pokerstars, Cardschat at Platinum level, and I even commented that the level of players in that tournament was very good in general, we always find players who play a little looser, some who call with bad hands, but in In my humble opinion I think the level is better than I expected, not that I'm a great player, but I've always tried to play well by the rules. I would like to know the opinion of friends, thanks lol.

in my perception is that at the bronze level there are some players with little knowledge of poker who play every hand and limp.

at Silver level players are tougher to play, play few hands and are more aggressive with good hands is a good and restricted field.

as in every tournament there will always be a percentage of recreational players, but most of the cardschat players are very good, they are at a very good level, that's why every time I learn more when I play against them.

I feel the overall level of play is very good in the CC community. Over the last few years I have seen the level drop but then it seems to go back up. I think the people that join and play a little looser than normal actually start paying attention to what is going on in the forum and they do improve their game! Thanks to all that contribute!!!!! And thanks to all those that make CC possible!!!!!

good level, I haven't won yet... but one day I'll get there.

I believe that players in freerolls above bronze are at least at the microlimit level.In the sense that in a conditional tournament with a $1 buy-in, you can find a similar level, and sometimes even worse, I also agree with the comments above.

Quite surprised with some of the skilled players on CardsChat. I play many buy in ranges up to $22 on a consistent basis and many of the CC regs that I encounter do as well and possess significant poker skills. There are several very good players as well as a bunch of solid ones playing CardsChat. Definitely helps being surrounded by great players. When I began moving up I never stopped playing the CC games because I honestly enjoy them. Also, if I am ever in an online bankroll downswing I could always fall back on the CC games as a way to replenish funds without putting my own money at risk. I have been fortunate to move into a better poker situation and always credit CardsChat with helping.

But on the flip side there’s always those few that will be shoving any 2 cards or playing bingo early on. You will immediately grasp which players are serious about poker and play at a tougher level. Compared to the one’s that play a haphazard style. It amazes me that after dozens of tournaments some of these players continue to punt in the same fashion they did way in the past. Either they just don’t care (which may be the case since they aren’t risking anything and try to amass a stack or get eliminated, or they just have no desire to learn how to play poker and improve) or whatever the case these players are the only negative here . Which is sad because many of the solids are great at offering advice in the forums. I have learned a lot since joining CardsChat. I obviously have much more to learn and hopefully will.

In general, the level of play of the CC members is good. Hug

This thread also reminds me of thinking to myself back when first starting to play CC freerolls "It'd be great to know who everyone is and have play history against them to draw on"...

Now having been here over five years, at many tables there's a fairly good understanding of who's who..


These days it's more the newly-joined FRC players who are the unknown quantity!

20% strong players, 30% mediocre players, 50% just amateurs

When it comes to freerolls, the CC Freerolls (silver and Platin) are the only ones, where real poker is played. The level in general is pretty high Home Game level, and I love to play with you, guys and girls.

So far I've only played a few silver CC freerolls, but from what I've noticed, CC players are better than the average low-stakes recreational player.
It's not easy to get to places with cash.

Originally Posted by Gritz18

A few days ago I played a tournament here at Pokerstars, Cardschat at Platinum level, and I even commented that the level of players in that tournament was very good in general, we always find players who play a little looser, some who call with bad hands, but in In my humble opinion I think the level is better than I expected, not that I'm a great player, but I've always tried to play well by the rules. I would like to know the opinion of friends, thanks lol.

Each level of CardsChat has a feature. So you have to know if you're playing bronze, silver or platinum.
The bronze level is full of recreational players and fish. silver already filters and has mostly good players. At platinum the only one who doesn't play well is me. The rest is all top player.

All sorts of levels.

Originally Posted by Claudiunm

Each level of CardsChat has a feature. So you have to know if you're playing bronze, silver or platinum.
At platinum the only one who doesn't play well is me. The rest is all top player.

Clearly you arent the only one on that front ^ ...
Also who says that you have to "play well" in platinum games when these events are clearly the ones where eventual result is thousand times more important than your nice playing style (which might lead to nowhere)

Originally Posted by Risto234

Clearly you arent the only one on that front ^ ...
Also who says that you have to "play well" in platinum games when these events are clearly the ones where eventual result is thousand times more important than your nice playing style (which might lead to nowhere)

I think that's the biggest magic of Poker. Even if you are not one of the best, there is still a chance to get there!
But discipline and focus are still very important! And look, I come from a streak of losing all-in pre-flop with AA 5 times in a row.

I think we play really well and most of them don't play the freerolls at theirs best cause we are multi table very often

I joined Cardschar quite recently and for now I'm in the Silver level, which doesn't offer many freerolls, so I only played a couple of bronze level freerolls. Won a dollar on the first time, and yesterday finished in 11th place... I'd say there were different levels of players, but both games were extremely interesting! Even on a bronze level it is obvious that everyone is trying their best and making very smart decisions most of the time. I was very impressed with everyone's game, behavior and commitment. I enjoyed both games much more than any other MTTs I've ever tried! Can't wait to participate in the Platinum freerolls, sounds very promising!