Heads up sitngos on full tilt

pwnagefactor54

pwnagefactor54

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Hello, i am thinking of trying something new for a while to see how i can do. I'm going to play some HU sngs on full tilt starting at the $2 level and see how long it takes me to climb up and get better at them. My question is about the 3 different types of NL holdem HU sngs, there are PL holdem HU sngs, Turbo NL holdem HU sngs, and regular NL holdem HU sngs. I am just not sure which is the most profitable to play, maybe one is better than another based on my playing style, im really not sure. I tried play the regular NL holdem HU sngs and the blinds start at 10/20 and rise fairly slowly, and i notice that most often my opponents play way too recklessly at the first 2 levels of blinds, when it really is unnecessary. I dont know, it just doesnt seem right, especially at the very low buyins where the players are complete idiots. I have also thought that maybe due to the fact that i have a very strong knowledge of the postflop game and how to play solid in general, maybe the PL holdem HU sngs would best suit me, to combat the players at the low buy ins, who play way too recklessly earlier or the players who like to go all in every hand. And i have also thought that maybe the turbo NL HU sngs would be best because the blinds seem to rise at a more steady rate considering it is heads up, it just seems more logical for the blinds to rise faster. I'm not sure, any opinions or advice on this would be appreciated :)
 
CrackaNACtion

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In the Turbo sit N Go. u gotta think on top ur head for fast decisions. at times in the turbos luck comes a decently large factor in winning cause blinds are u so high and they raise so fast. Pl Sit n gos these are alright i guess if u like long type tournys myself i play the nl ones. those are prob the best ones to learn % flops etc with. but whichever u chose good luck :)
 
Bones65

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i prefer p-stars HU, mostly because i seem to do better there...
less suckouts

GL2U
 
renegades8

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I'd have to say the NL non-turbo ones. When it's non-turbo you can sit back and wait for hands, and your opponents generally fail to do this. You just have to wait for a hand like TPTK+, and try to make your opponent get his money in with a worse hand as they'll often do. I'd also say NL instead of PL because IMO the players who play the PL SNGs at those stakes are generally better, and NL has no restrictions on how much/fast you can win.
 
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I don't like pot limit because, like you said, the players are willing to go all in just about every hand; and when you have the nuts you can't maximize on it and put them out right there (unless they are short-stacked enough). I prefer the turbo NL SNGs myself because the reg. ones drag on forever at times. I like the new thing they have added to the HU SNGs on FT too...you are able to play the same person again if you want instead of having to go back into the lobby to find a new opponent....which is good if the person you just beat is a total donk!
 
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i would only try it if you made experiences with playing heads up because especially on full tilt there are sitting the best online players of the world.
 
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switch0723

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are you still trying this? Ive been playing a bit of hu on there recently and would like to play you for a good game
 
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I win a lot playing HU sngs. Here are a few things that might help you. These are things I usually do.

1. If it's checked twice to you, bet no matter what. Just force yourself to bet. For example, you have 7 5 in the small blind and call, your opponent checks. He checks the flop you check. If he checks the turn bet 1/2 the pot (one big blind) even if you have nothing just force yourself to bet, he will fold almost all the time.

2. Play any pair aggressively preflop and play ace-8 or better strongly preflop.

3. Study your opponent and you can get a very good idea of the strength of his preflop raising hands. Some HU opponents will raise with any top 50% hand, some will raise rarely because they are waiting for a top they will usually just raise the top 20 or 30% of hands.

4. Study a chart that ranks each hands ability to win in an all in showdown against 1 random hand.
 
OzExorcist

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i would only try it if you made experiences with playing heads up because especially on full tilt there are sitting the best online players of the world.

That may be, but I don't think they play at the $2 level :p

I play one of these for a laugh occasionally, pretty much just break even on them. There are other games that offer me better returns.
 
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HU sng's IMO are pretty worthless at such a small stake. If you want to get actual play at these things, try a higher level(considering you are properly rolled). They play will be better, and you wont have the retards going all in every hand. Most(if not all) the low stake HU sng's I've played, the people were just having some fun, not really trying to make a profit.
 
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I could write a book on HU SnG's. In fact, I think I will. But not now. I will say this. HU, you CANNOT sit back and wait for hands. Or, I should say that you need to reevaluate what you consider a good hand. In HU play, any hand in the top 50% is a good hand. why? because its likely better than whatever it is your opponent has. Early on in a tournament you need to be raising every hand at least in the top 30% or so. Any Ax, any Kx, any Q8 or better, any pair. In short, raise with any hand likely to be best after the flop.

But don't think of your raises as a license to own the pot after the flop. If you do it will be a short tournament. Any opponent will simply wait for a good hand and punish you. Think of your raises as merely increasing the blinds. You want to up the anty when you likely have the best hand, and take the pot odds when you don't.

When you raise PF don't feel obligated to post a continuation bet. If checked to I usually will bet out with all my Aces, Kings and pairs. It's not a bluff. If your opponent checks it's probably because he missed the flop. If so then your high card or pair actually IS the best hand. So bet. 80% of the time he'll just fold right there. If he checkraises then your done. If he check calls then be content to check it down. If the price is right I'm usually more than willing to look him up on the river with hands as low as Ten high. Even if he shows a winning hand the message is clear. DON'T STEAL MY POT! Also I don't think the information you gain from seeing his hand is fully appreciated.

I had the SB in mind for most of what I've written here, but it applies in large to either position. However, in the BB you need to tighten up your raising requirements somewhat as you have very little fold equity.

GL
 
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I'd take you up on this offer just for the experience.

Ok well im busy this week so wont be playing any poker until friday so id be willnig to play you then? Are you from america though, because time differences could be a factor
 
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hey let me know if anyone wants to play heads up as well!!! I play all the time and kill em' lol
 
renegades8

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Ok well im busy this week so wont be playing any poker until friday so id be willnig to play you then? Are you from america though, because time differences could be a factor
Possibly, not sure what I'm up to this weekend yet. Mountain Time BTW, GMT -7.
 
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