Getting beyond Fish vs. Shark

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I know there have been loads of Fish vs Shark type posts. I'd like to steer the discussion to focus a bit more on what we really mean when refer to someone as a Fish vs Shark.

It goes without saying that the fish basically sucks and the shark is there to eat the fish.
But that is overly simplistic, and one fish is not the same as another. In fact, treating all fish the same will result in you being one of the cry-babies who moans after losing AA to 27o.

So...what are the characteristics then, of your typical fish? How many of these bad habits does a person need to have before we label them as fish?


for example:
  1. Not positionally aware
  2. Too loose, especially out of position.
  3. Call station.
  4. Folds easily to aggression.
  5. Rarely raises.
  6. Ignorant to pot odds.
  7. Fails to defend blinds
  8. Excessive limping
  9. Bet sizing always proportional to hand strength
etcetera...

What other attributes of a typical FISH have I missed?

What are the attributes of someone you'd call a shark?

I think that once we compile a list with input from everyone here, we can then start labelling players at the tables with codified fish habits. We can then add them to our notes or HUDs when we play, and accumulate some good intel. Of course, CC intel has a shelflife. You buggers keep getting better...and are wise to my tricks!

Cheers,
ObbleeXY
 
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  • Folds easily to aggression.
  • Rarely raises.
  • Fails to defend blinds
  • Excessive limping
  • Bet sizing always proportional to hand strength
Oh dear. I'm 50% Fish. Although I've solved the folding on the river issue. Which you (and James) have cured me of.
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Maybe the other 4 are why I can't go professional.
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I think the main attribute of a fish chasing draws, especially tiny small ones!
Failing to read other players and situation.
Thinking the game is just luck and not seeing how good players are successful.
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Other fishy attributes include
-Betting too small in relation to the pot.
-Can get married to their hands and refuse to fold even when there could be easily beaten.

Shark attributes may include
-A player that is not afraid to often 3 bet pre flop
-A player who is able to spot good opportunities to check raise.
 
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