Hi all,

I’ve started learning and playing poker since September of last year. I immediately fell in love and have either played online or live with friends or at the casino pretty consistently. The game is just too good. I’ve made a post on Reddit asking how to improve and got some good books to read. I’ve watched so many YouTube clip compilations and vlogs, it’s great.

Now, I want to ask the people of this forum (this is my first post) honestly and truthfully. Is the dream to make money through poker still alive? With HUD online and people getting better and better..what does this mean for semi professional or professional play?

Are the gates sealed tight to become a winning player? How long would it take a hard working novice to move up the stakes and build a bankroll. You guys have more experience and I would love some advice. It’s quickly become a dream of mine to have income playing this beautiful game.

I just want someone to be real with me. Do only the top 10% of poker players even make money? How much money is there to be made if you put the work in?

There is nothing impossible in poker if you put enough efforts and follow your dream. You should be careful though, follow strict bankroll management, constantly read and improve your game (both poker skills and mental game) and learn how to control your emotions. Relatively few people manage to do that to the level needed to get to the big money and become top pro players.

Currently as relatively new player you are inspired and it is completely normal to be enthusiastic. My advice is to play and train seriously for few months and after that make evaluation of the situation answering following questions:

1. Is your game improving proportionally to the efforts you invested? Are you already winning player and how much?
2. If you see improvement - how much time and efforts it took to get here? Are you ready to invest even more efforts and take more risks to continue further?
3. What you feel when playing poker? Do you still like the game like in the beginning or your attitude changed?

After that you will know how to proceed further.

Of course the dream is still alive, all you want to achieve in this world is with effort, hours of work and study, and poker is no exception, if you can earn money from poker, but you have to be persevering and not get frustrated when you lose , play with enough energy.

Hello.
If you have a dream, work to achieve it, despite any comments. If you are a sufficiently patient and disciplined player, you will succeed. But you also need to understand that it will take years of hard daily work.
Good luck.

You started playing poker with the intention of making a lot of money, very well but knowing that in online poker this is difficult. Everyone here likes this game a lot and if we collect $ something is fine. I say all this because I have a few years since I played online and I do not have too many achievements, I must admit that my game is not too great . Good luck!

Yes micro / lower stakes is still very beatable both online and live. With enough study moving through the levels of games is also possible.

I have definately become a bit jaded with the game over time, but that has more to do with governments and regulation problems than the game itself. Poker is actually a beautiful game

How fast you will rise depends only on you and on your efforts. Good luck !!!

Study as often as possible and good bank roll management.

You definitely won’t be the second Negreanu or Holtz! But, with diligent effort and the most severe discipline in observing bankroll management, it’s quite possible to earn money for bread and butter.

It would be nice to do a survey on your topic. I play poker for a year, and not quite successfully, but not critically terribly.

Originally Posted by neptun1914

There is nothing impossible in poker if you put enough efforts and follow your dream. You should be careful though, follow strict bankroll management, constantly read and improve your game (both poker skills and mental game) and learn how to control your emotions. Relatively few people manage to do that to the level needed to get to the big money and become top pro players.

Currently as relatively new player you are inspired and it is completely normal to be enthusiastic. My advice is to play and train seriously for few months and after that make evaluation of the situation answering following questions:

1. Is your game improving proportionally to the efforts you invested? Are you already winning player and how much?
2. If you see improvement - how much time and efforts it took to get here? Are you ready to invest even more efforts and take more risks to continue further?
3. What you feel when playing poker? Do you still like the game like in the beginning or your attitude changed?

After that you will know how to proceed further.

I agree with this. Bank Management is probably the hardest thing to have self control over. It happens too often, that a player will say to himself: "Well, I've got $50.00 left, so I may as well go all out with it."

There's two problems with this attitude:

1.) You're already saying to yourself that you're going to lose it, anyway.

.....and....

2.) You'll probably try again, put more money in, and go through the same cycle again.

The end result is total frustration, exasperation, and financial loss.

Every $ in your bankroll is precious. Protect it, and use it very wisely.

For me , the dream isn't alive anymore.
But I do believe people can make money online.
If someone loses big online, someone also has to win that

Originally Posted by Mekk

Hi all,

I’ve started learning and playing poker since September of last year. I immediately fell in love and have either played online or live with friends or at the casino pretty consistently. The game is just too good. I’ve made a post on Reddit asking how to improve and got some good books to read. I’ve watched so many YouTube clip compilations and vlogs, it’s great.

Now, I want to ask the people of this forum (this is my first post) honestly and truthfully. Is the dream to make money through poker still alive? With HUD online and people getting better and better..what does this mean for semi professional or professional play?

Are the gates sealed tight to become a winning player? How long would it take a hard working novice to move up the stakes and build a bankroll. You guys have more experience and I would love some advice. It’s quickly become a dream of mine to have income playing this beautiful game.

I just want someone to be real with me. Do only the top 10% of poker players even make money? How much money is there to be made if you put the work in?

About 10% of poker players make money, that's correct.
About 10% of that 10% make a ton of money (so around 1%)

Just like the rest of the careers out there it is the 1% who end up with 99% of the money, and anyone who is willing to work hard at the game, be disciplined and always improving will have a chance to realize that dream.

More information being available doesn't mean it's harder, it means whoever can interpret that data better and execute on a daily basis will get the results. ALI IMSIROVIC is a great example of someone who did this and rose the ranks from $0.01/0.02 to playing $300k high rollers on the regular. Discipline, Drive, Consistent effort and taking the right chances in the game and in building your network are some of the keys to reaching that success.

You Tube

You Tube

The first video is about study habits, the second is about personal management.

Hope that helps and good luck with your dreamweaving!

It needs patience, and it has many ups and downs. In the long term there are some stable incomes, which are rising as time passes. The most importand is that as you play you become better, which can help the income too!

The dream is more alive than ever!

Patience is the key to success. No one promises Golden mountains at once. But over time you can achieve impressive results

Well a dream can be reached doing things for it, it never reaches from nothing.

I am not good at cash, but in tournaments if I find benefit, my best advice is that you try to qualify for tournaments with the minimum invested and so when you win it is really very profitable, partypoker and 888poker are my favorites for that, it is the advice that you I can give

Originally Posted by Maikychan

The dream is more alive than ever!

+1 But then again my goal setting is currently fairly low I don't have poker dreams of becoming a professional or winning the WSOP, but I do wish to improve at poker and become "good at the game." Vague: yes. Is this dream coming true though? Absolutely.

If you follow what they wrote here, then in 5 years you can say that you are a successful player. It is possible. You can compare this with the dream of becoming a good chess player. Pro poker players are the same chess grandmasters.

In fact, if not mistaken, only 5% of poker players are profitable and live off the game. So if this is what you want, you will have to dedicate yourself a lot to achieve this goal. And I think the dream is still alive, because although today many more people know and play and know how to use the tools that poker has, there are many poker schools where you can enter and be a great player.

Believe in yourself, take notes, keep learning, never stop dreaming

Originally Posted by 10gerka

Of course the dream is still alive, all you want to achieve in this world is with effort, hours of work and study, and poker is no exception, if you can earn money from poker, but you have to be persevering and not get frustrated when you lose , play with enough energy.

agreement with him

hi friend
it s normal to ask questions like this when you are new to the poker world,
and based on my small experience and what i learned and view untill now, it all depends on you and how much you want it, just beleive in yourself,
you alsi can learn from poker professionals story's, just watch on youtube story of phil ivey or tom dwan and a lot of others and you will understand what im talkign about, it all about you .

just keep following bankroll rules and it'll be fine, I won approx 300$ playing CC freerolls, but I was always withdrawing all my wins, I don/nt have discipline to build my bankroll. so if you do, everything will be ok. now I want to go on building the bankroll from the very beginning

to be honest, we all thought when we started playing poker .. that everything will work out and become rich and successful .. but here as in life, few really manage to become the owner of a lot of money .. many gold diggers seek happiness in the mines .. only a few succeeded make a fortune ... but there is such a saying .. hope dies last ... and still play poker just like a game is also nice

Originally Posted by Evan Jarvis

About 10% of poker players make money, that's correct.
About 10% of that 10% make a ton of money (so around 1%)

Have you ever taken time to consider why this is the case (assuming your statistics are roughly accurate)?

Do you think poker is so challenging, that only 10% of people understand how to develop a dynamic winning strategy? Or do you think that 90% of people lack the ability to critically think through ANY process, and just try to find the "easy way" through life?

This is a intended to be a thought provoking question.

Cheers!

Everyone at first thinks that they can, I think that in the current reality it is impossible. Unless you're an overupped fish. If you play by backing and streaming on a regular basis, perhaps some money can be earned - games have always been popular, and successful players in any video game make a profit if they make a show.

good afternoon friend, my opinion is that you cannot let the dream die, you must be insistent even after a bad one never risk your entire bankroll and with effort and safe game you will get there. "never give up on your dreams, when you least expect it you will bust a bankroll"

Success can be achieved in any field if you are ready to make every effort for this. If the answer is yes, then be patient and work hard every day. But do not forget about the rest

the dream is always alive always will the question is do we got what it takes to realize it or are we more lazy and will just daydream and fantasize about it with no action taken...

I think there is money in poker today. A lot of work, a lot of learning, patience. It is true that the players have approx. 10% earns it - but be one of those 10%. : D

All beginners hope to make money playing poker, but most probably lose ... Read books about poker, play more and of course a little luck

If poker is your calling, I won't argue.Not many good players manage to earn money with poker.The game itself lives in each of us.Today you can be on top and tomorrow you will be out of the tournament at an early stage.Everything is decided by your condition and limit.Be smarter and practice more and then your dream will come true for sure!

It’s good to have a dream. Now you like it, but there may be failures in the game and big losses ahead and you need to be mentally prepared for this. When you understand that you are playing on equal terms with the pros, only then can you make good money by playing.

It will be very hard, you had to buy all needless programs, work hard on your game, train with coach. This is real, but our days its much harder.

The dream will always be alive, for there will always be gamblers, recreational players, and half-decent players who are unwilling to put in serious study

Hey. I think that you need to go to training at some kind of poker school and do it personally with a trainer, if you want to play well and professionally, but if on an amateur level, then read articles, listen to what you are advised to watch video reviews and, of course, practice and you will gradually play better and better

Originally Posted by Mekk

Hi all,

Are the gates sealed tight to become a winning player? How long would it take a hard working novice to move up the stakes and build a bankroll. You guys have more experience and I would love some advice. It’s quickly become a dream of mine to have income playing this beautiful game.

Answers:
1)Yes, the gates are quite sealed indeed. It's more than possible to win from time to time but it takes quite some skill to win more often
2) Bankroll building is heavily dependent on how often and how much you withdraw. If little or nothing - it is possible to build a bankroll in a few months. For experienced player I mean. For novice it may or may not take forever.
3) It is MUCH more easy to make it your income if you can afford higher stakes. If you cannot afford em, do not even think of trying play the stakes you can afford.

Poker is a game who depends on person skills, you just have to be better than your oponnets at all and you will get their money.

I think the dream is still alive of course, but everyone needs to improve a lot to be profitable.