Colluding At 200 NL Live

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6bet me

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Here is the situation:

- 200 NL live at a casino
- Person 1 and person 2 are friends
- Person 1 (short stack) is sitting to the right of person 2 (deep stack)
- Player to the right of Person 1 raises preflop
- Person 1 shoves all in
- Person 2 shoves all in
- Every other player folds, including the blinds and the initial raiser
- Person 1 shows a KQ suited
- Person 2 mucks his cards without even looking at the turn and the river
- Person 1 takes pot
- Person 2 announces that he had a low pocket pair, but didn't want to take money off his friend
- Other players are angry at Person 2 for colluding

Do you think that this is a fair strategy or is it unethical play?
 
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I think is an unethical play,and dont deserve to play anymore in that live poker room/casino
 
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lukeellul92

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If it's just those 2 heads up in a hand against each other, it's not really collusion, it doesn't change anything.

IF they do this with other people in the hand , then yes, you could call it collusion.

Unfortunately you run into this alot at casinos, especially in smaller poker rooms. Your bio says you're from Melbourne so I know your poker room their is massive, but I play at crown perth and I can tell you this happens almost always on a daily basis, but only if they're 2 friends heads up with each other.

However they should have probably just checked it down and then winner takes pot.
 
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Definitely collusion and the players should be politely asked to leave the casino and not be allowed to play at the same table again. They effectively squeezed the raiser out when the second player overbet the pot so his buddy could take it.
If I was playing at that table I would get up and leave.
 
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hffjd2000

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Surely a collusion. Saw this kind of chip dumping in our local poker room before.

The victims should now appeal and change house rules where if there is all-in showdown, force face up of cards and no mucking should be applied.
 
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lukeellul92

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I completely misread this.. Yes, definately collusion
 
Zorba

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Bring back the good ole days when you just shot someone for that.

Of course it's collusion.

Where in Melbourne are you, I am 90 mins east in West Gippsland.

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That is definitely wrong and both players should be kicked out.
 
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It's collusion because player 2 (deep stack) could have pushed other players out of the pot who would have called otherwise. I can't believe this wasn't resolved by the casino.
 
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They should be banned. Shame on you guys!
 
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CallmeFloppy

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It's collusion without a doubt.
 
OzExorcist

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Def collusion. Would be surprised if this happened at Crown and it was let slide without the floor at least talking to the players.

FWIW I'm not in favour of the "OMG kick them out, ban them right now" response without at least knowing a bit more. There are a LOT of casual players, especially in these small stakes games, who probably don't understand that what they've just done is wrong or why it's wrong. If that's the case then it's best to educate them, not kick them out so they never play again.
 
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