The Card Counter Movie!

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I watched The Card Counter movie and it made me wonder if someone could actually count cards. I think he could do it if he was the one holding the deck of cards like you saw in the movie, but the thing I'm most curious about is, can someone with this skill count the cards that the dealer distribute on the table?
 
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Counting cards is something that people do as a job… There are literal teams that are built to count cards and take money. I was into that at one point, found it a little too hard and tidious but I saw somewhere that a team swiped 4 million from casinos in a year or something like that
 
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I only play online, so I'm not interested in such tricks. But nevertheless, I also saw a movie in which players, counting cards, won money in the casino. But as far as I remember, they played Black Jack.
 
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Card counting exists in blackjack, yes.

Card counting isn't relevant to NLHE/poker as the deck is shuffled between each hand which renders counting impossible.

Was the movie good?
 
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Counting cards is something that people do as a job… There are literal teams that are built to count cards and take money. I was into that at one point, found it a little too hard and tidious but I saw somewhere that a team swiped 4 million from casinos in a year or something like that
Many thanks to you:)
Is the skill of card counting considered a crime or theft punishable by law?, and if it is already considered a crime, then this is illogical and I do not agree because I consider it a super skill
 
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Card counting exists in blackjack, yes.

Card counting isn't relevant to NLHE/poker as the deck is shuffled between each hand which renders counting impossible.

Was the movie good?

The movie wasn't a good one because it didn't touch much on the subject of poker :(, all that caught my attention was the issue of card counting
 
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Many thanks to you:)
Is the skill of card counting considered a crime or theft punishable by law?, and if it is already considered a crime, then this is illogical and I do not agree because I consider it a super skill
It's not a crime punishable by law but still a sure-fire way to eventually get banned from the casino premises.
 
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I think maybe you are referring to the movie 21 that details the exploits of the MIT blackjack team. I would have loved to have been on that team! Some of them like Andy Bloch and Erica Schoenberg did well in poker after their blackjack card counting days were done.
 
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Card counting is "easy". They are shown in many movies.
It is certainly not an easy thing to count the cards, you need to add good memory (it is best if the memory is photographic) but it is possible.
 
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It's not a crime punishable by law but still a sure-fire way to eventually get banned from the casino premises.

Certainly this is true, because casinos are the only beneficiary, I think casinos are entitled to take such action with the card counter in case they are a team, but if that person is one and does not belong to any team, I see the casinos are unfair to the card counter right Or to the spirit of gambling, because he has often reached this level and gained this special experience with a lot of effort, in addition to losing a lot of money while learning.
I believe that casinos should deal fairly with these people, and take responsibility for confronting them and overcoming them by playing rather than kicking them out or banning them from the casino.
 
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I think maybe you are referring to the movie 21 that details the exploits of the MIT blackjack team. I would have loved to have been on that team! Some of them like Andy Bloch and Erica Schoenberg did well in poker after their blackjack card counting days were done.

I've seen the movie 21, it's a great movie, but The Card Counter is a movie from the year 2021 and starring Oscar Isaac.
 
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I think that if he can count the cards in blackjack by observing only, which can be up to eight times the number of poker cards, then it is easy for him to make good use of this skill in poker.


As someone said earlier in this thread. It's irrelevant becuase there is a new shuffled deck for each seperate hand of poker! Therefore counting / obvserving which cards are in a hand has no effect on the next hand!
 
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As of what i know card counters are for black jack not poker
for poker you have to count with outs and odds
 
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I think that if he can count the cards in blackjack by observing only, which can be up to eight times the number of poker cards, then it is easy for him to make good use of this skill in poker.

As someone said earlier in this thread. It's irrelevant becuase there is a new shuffled deck for each seperate hand of poker! Therefore counting / obvserving which cards are in a hand has no effect on the next hand!

Mike Postle can answer the question, the video adds some information about card counting




 
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Well, if there is a film, then at least there were attempts to count !! And so for self-development, you can look at "Rain Man" here for sure, really calculate it)))
 
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If you are really interested, in what people can do with cards, you should search on YT for Card Mechanic or Richard Turner. After that, you will think twice if you play Poker in a casino again ;)
 
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In poker,cards are shuffled every turn. So it's impossible to count cards. But in Casino, yes, but now with modern technologies you can be very fast busted, and you risk loose some parts of body, or atleast get ban in all decent casinos.
 
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Counting cards is something that people do as a job… There are literal teams that are built to count cards and take money. I was into that at one point, found it a little too hard and tidious but I saw somewhere that a team swiped 4 million from casinos in a year or something like that
You get moved on pretty quickly these days when you're counting cards, despite it being legal in most places. Floor bosses will spot it. Surveillance staff will spot it.
(assuming you're increasing /decreaing bets according to the count).
But if that becomes your thing...then be prepared to have to move around a lot from casino to Casino. Never give your ID to payout...just upon entry or if asked by law enforcement. Harder for them to share your info with other casinos if don't tell 'em who you are.
Cheers,
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