Calling 4 of a kind as two pair

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I certainly am not totally aware of all the official rules in live poker at a casino, but I was under the impression that a verbal declaration is binding. Two pair loses to 3 of a kind, so if a player declares 4 of a kind as two pair, would he/she not lose the hand to 3 of a kind? If that happened to me, I would ask for the poker room manager to make an official call on that.
 
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no its not acceptable I don't believe it is correct poker etiquette I think your friend is trying to be a smart arse
 
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I certainly am not totally aware of all the official rules in live poker at a casino, but I was under the impression that a verbal declaration is binding. Two pair loses to 3 of a kind, so if a player declares 4 of a kind as two pair, would he/she not lose the hand to 3 of a kind? If that happened to me, I would ask for the poker room manager to make an official call on that.


Had to step in because no one is giving the correct answer.

First to above quote- no, this is not the rule, never is a verbal declaration of a hand binding - in fact.....

Mis-declaring your hand is actually AGAINST THE RULES in just about every poker room in the world, it is NOT ok, and it should never be acceptable. It can be ruled that your hand is DEAD in certain situations if you do this, and you may also receive a penalty. .

However, in a home game - well depends on how you want to play, if you want a well run game and want to follow rules, well then it is not ok to do this
 
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I certainly am not totally aware of all the official rules in live poker at a casino, but I was under the impression that a verbal declaration is binding. Two pair loses to 3 of a kind, so if a player declares 4 of a kind as two pair, would he/she not lose the hand to 3 of a kind? If that happened to me, I would ask for the poker room manager to make an official call on that.

Like detroitjunkie said,
cards "speak" for themselves at showdown, not a verbal declaration...Verbal declarations are only binding with actions(bet, call, raise, check, fold)

Always remember that verbal takes precedence over action, e.g. let's say you announce a bet of $400, but at the same time shove $800 by mistake, the bet would be the verbal declaration of $400. Conversely, if you mean to just call a bet, but shove in more than the call by mistake, WITHOUT a verbal declaration, the chips determine the bet. So, if it's $400 to call, and you shove $800 and then say "I call," you actually just raised to $800.

Hope all that made sense and actually helped lol
 
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so tilting when someone calls it two pair uggg
 
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This thread reminds me of this hilarious clip from only fools and horses :D

 
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FFS, skimming through this thread means I just lost time I'll never get back, GTG
 
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that's a funny video. thanks for sharing
 
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you can call a gopher a horse, but you wont get ride it anyway
 
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you may call them "paper rectangles"
 
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The cards always speak for themselves.
 
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its one the luckiest moments when i have 4 of a kind and other players raise their bets :D
feels like jackpottttt
 
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