Call with Pocket Aces?

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Okay so you're in a deep stack cash game and you look at your cards to find pocket aces. Opportunity arises, and you're placed all in, let's say for $400,000. Do you call?

Just want opinions of players on this one. I'll say what I'll do after I hear some responses, don't want to swave anyone's decisions.
 
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what position are in? what are the reads of the players yet to act? Are you calling one all in or there mutiple players in the pot already?
 
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Is this pre-flop?

Is it after the flop? What came on the flop?

After turn?

River?

Too many variables to consider if it's after the flop, turn, river to make one decision.

But if it's pre-flop...calling is the only play with pocket aces really.
 
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lol

okay, this is officially the worst thread of the year

you must mean preflop so , um yes, you call unless you are literally allergic to money

what position are in? what are the reads of the players yet to act? Are you calling one all in or there mutiple players in the pot already?

none of this matters... you still call
 
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Based on vague question, i will make an answer up.

I would fold on the basis, i have pocket aces, but the 2 other people in the hand have pushed all in and appear to have 5 cards each and have each said 'i stand pat'
 
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pre-flop yes... if you are faced with an all-in i dont care if there are 8 others in it too... you are always ahead!! just hope it holds up!!!!
 
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Okay so you're in a deep stack cash game and you look at your cards to find pocket aces. Opportunity arises, and you're placed all in, let's say for $400,000. Do you call?

Just want opinions of players on this one. I'll say what I'll do after I hear some responses, don't want to swave anyone's decisions.

Assuming this is preflop nothing you can say here will sway my opinion. I'd call then jump up from my seat and do a little dance.
 
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I move that we alter this thread the obligatory, it's the first hand of the wsop and there are 8 all ins and you have AA, do you call? Cause it's almost the same question.

Everyone wasted more time on this thread than was necessary. The OP question is wrong. The true question should be, if you have $400,000 what are the best investments I can put that money into to grow it to X Millions of Dollars/Euros.
 
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You have to Ask it's a no brainer Preflop
 
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Why, why, why, and again why, would you not call if this is a preeflop bet?
 
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Seriously, what on earth are you afraid of with pocket aces?! You are a minimum of a 70% favourite HU.

If you wouldn't call here, you shouldn't be playing.
 
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closer to a minimum of roughly 80% favorite heads up (with all other cards being unknown, obviously)
 
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Yes preflop. I'm just wondering since it's so much money, that you can be sucked out. Would you personally do it if lets say, your entire bankroll is on the line with this hand.
 
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it's an absurd question. anyone with poor enough bankroll management to have their entire bankroll on the table would obviously do it, yes

anyone else would never be in such a situation
 
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Personally, it would depend on the # of callers or even after callers for $400,000 on a preflop bet whether to call or not... considering you're about 80% fav in HU... you're are not when there are multiple callers. You have 2 outs unless you hit runner flush which is about 23% preflop in hopes... if it is in BB with 1 all in you actually stand 50/50 because of the suckout factor... at this point your opponent is in control of the preflop and the hand... why risk it save the $$$ for when you get them and you can make the bet to control the hand.... unless you have already put in at LEAST $800,000 before the all in then you're are pot committed and all I can say is good luck.
 
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Don't play with what you can't afford to lose. You are never going to be less than 50 % so call.
 
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Personally, it would depend on the # of callers or even after callers for $400,000 on a preflop bet whether to call or not... considering you're about 80% fav in HU... you're are not when there are multiple callers. You have 2 outs unless you hit runner flush which is about 23% preflop in hopes... if it is in BB with 1 all in you actually stand 50/50 because of the suckout factor... at this point your opponent is in control of the preflop and the hand... why risk it save the $$$ for when you get them and you can make the bet to control the hand.... unless you have already put in at LEAST $800,000 before the all in then you're are pot committed and all I can say is good luck.

It doesn't depend on the number of callers at all. Hypothetical situation:

all players have exactly $400,000
the first 9 players go all in.
your turn to act with AA, do you call? of course you do.

The point about $400,000 being a lot of money. You should NEVER be sat down with your bankroll on the line.
 
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Personally, it would depend on the # of callers or even after callers for $400,000 on a preflop bet whether to call or not... considering you're about 80% fav in HU... you're are not when there are multiple callers. You have 2 outs unless you hit runner flush which is about 23% preflop in hopes... if it is in BB with 1 all in you actually stand 50/50 because of the suckout factor... at this point your opponent is in control of the preflop and the hand... why risk it save the $$$ for when you get them and you can make the bet to control the hand.... unless you have already put in at LEAST $800,000 before the all in then you're are pot committed and all I can say is good luck.

lmao
 
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Personally, it would depend on the # of callers or even after callers for $400,000 on a preflop bet whether to call or not... considering you're about 80% fav in HU... you're are not when there are multiple callers. You have 2 outs unless you hit runner flush which is about 23% preflop in hopes... if it is in BB with 1 all in you actually stand 50/50 because of the suckout factor... at this point your opponent is in control of the preflop and the hand... why risk it save the $$$ for when you get them and you can make the bet to control the hand.... unless you have already put in at LEAST $800,000 before the all in then you're are pot committed and all I can say is good luck.

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iMaGiN.Okay so you're in a deep stack cash game and you look at your cards to find pocket aces. Opportunity arises, and you're placed all in, let's say for $400,000. Do you call?

Just want opinions of players on this one. I'll say what I'll do after I hear some responses, don't want to swave anyone's decisions.


ummmm I think, maybe I'm wrong, but the question was what would " I " do.... not what HE should do....and wanted opinions... not what is poker etiquette or poker standard... I'm sure that he has played long enough to understand those.:D
 
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AA pre-flop against 4 hands...
KQs
J10s
98s
76s

AA here is 36.5% to win still very good.. this is the lowest combination i can find with 5 handed.. the rest of the hands are 16.5%.. except 89 being 13%.

UPDATE:
34s
67s
910s
QKs
this would be the worst you could go up against with AA 5 - handed :p
AA are 34.5%

in closing... i have way too much time on my hands.
 
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ummmm I think, maybe I'm wrong, but the question was what would " I " do.... not what HE should do....and wanted opinions... not what is poker etiquette or poker standard... I'm sure that he has played long enough to understand those.:D

correct. and what "you" would do is terrible poker when the object is to make money. thus someone pointed out this fact, and i laughed at you. anything else you need cleared up?
 
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Here's a better question. Someone walks up to you on the street. He takes your deck (so you know it's not rigged), he gives you 2 aces and takes 2 unknown cards for himself. He now lets you or someone you trust shuffle, and asks you the question. "Want to deal it out and winner gets 400k from the loser?"

If you're at a table though, you should always be able to financially afford losing everything you have in front of you. If you are playing at a table and you know you have the best hand, you have to call.

But this is an interesting question that I've wondered in watching deal or no deal. The optimally correct play can be determined using statistics, but is the decision that maximizes ev the correct one in the game? If you can have a sure 300k and are given a 50-50 at $1 million and a buck would you take it? Theoretically the 50-50 at a million has the higher ev but there's no way in hell you could convince me to take that. Give me the ****ing 300k right now.

In my example I'd say no. I'm sure someone richer would say yes, but I would be putting myself in about $395k of debt if I lost that, which wouldn't be the best way to be at this point in my life. Even if that's only 20% of the time, I'm not going to take that risk.
 
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But that's a different situation. As you say, someone richer would gamble it because they can afford to. In the same way, you'd take your gamble with AA because you should be able to afford to lose the money you have at the table.
 
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