Bad Player or Sore Loser

[Pokerpoet2]

There are a lot of poker sites out there, some I have never heard of, but the re-occurring theme is "This site is rigged" or "This site is a Scam" Never have I seen someone admit they are a Bad Player or Sore Loser.
Like any form of gambling whether it is Sports Betting, Horse Racing, Poker or any kind of Casino Games of chance, they rely on one thing, and that is the MUG!
The Patsy who thinks he knows everything there is to know about anything they want to gamble on, and they know nothing, because they never learn.
Casino's, Turf Accountants, and Poker sites are all in the business of making money, The only way they can do this is to take it from the Mug, or Patsy who will give it to them voluntarily and on a regular basis.
I am sure there are plenty of people out there who win, and win on a regular basis, otherwise we wouldn't have Professional Poker players or Professional Gamblers who make a living from their chosen form of gambling.
But! For every winner there has to be Losers and a lot more of them, or Casino's and other businesses would soon be out of business
For every Winner there will be thousands and thousands of losers, you only have to open a lobby in an MTT game to see the numbers for yourself, Why do you think that Poker sites offer Satellite games at low prices, it is so they can make money, from the thousands of players who do not make the money and win a seat into a bigger game, and attract more Professional players into the bigger games.
I am lucky, because I saw the light 40 odd years ago, and that is why I don't gamble, I play Poker sure, but not with my money, I played hundreds, maybe thousands of free-rolls, used that money to buy into small stake games and then take the money off the Mugs and Patsy's who think they know it all and still know nothing, because they never learn.
They prefer to blame the site for being crooked or being scam mongers who are out to take their money, Sorry but if you are one of them, you are wrong, They don't have to take your money because there are thousands and thousands of other players giving it away freely.
My point is this, Play Poker responsibly, Play for the excitement and fun the game gives you, but Don't play to be a millionaire, because it rarely happens, Fairy Stories are for the Story Books.

When the fun Stops, STOP!

 

[emk211]

Could be a combination of both, a culmination of many different scenarios can play out, there are cheaters and scammers everywhere, at least 5% percent of the population is guaranteed to be one or all.

I am a bad player and a loser.

 

[Jackmagic]

Ya gotta wonder though. I remember a poker site being shut down because their owner was cheating (Ultimate Bet, Full Tilt, Absolute). I've been online gaming since it's inception and I know the internet is jammed full of cheaters and hackers. If no one cheats how come the poker sites constantly upgrade their software? And if cheaters are taking your money and the poker site catches them they are not going to tell you about it. Live poker doesn't "upgrade". Cards are cards. Ever hear of bots? Why do my 90+% odds of winning the hand pre-river lose 80% of the time? Not just me that notices that. But I do agree - play with house money that way you have nothing to lose and no reason to whine. Good luck and just have fun!

 

[Artbart805]

poker sites are there to make money for the investor or owners. Not the players.The players are the mark. So if a site changes so you cannot get hand histories, run HUD, why? They want to hide something. If you can track your losses and wins you can see that you are loosing at rate that is not mathematically correct. Lets say AA should win 80 percent of the time but on the site it wins 60 percent. Hmmmm. or the one and two outers hit more than the 5 percent?

one player changes names to cover or so you cant track the bots?

 

[vittopio]

Everything you say is interesting and to some extent true! But didn't you think that if you made a small deposit , you could earn a lot more money by spending the same effort?

 

[JimTheBadger]

Yea you don't understand variance or the actual progression that one has to take to rise up the stakes of the games. You didn't figure anything out. Your freeroll bankroll is proof of that.

 

[JimTheBadger]

poker sites are there to make money for the investor or owners. Not the players.The players are the mark. So if a site changes so you cannot get hand histories, run HUD, why? They want to hide something. If you can track your losses and wins you can see that you are loosing at rate that is not mathematically correct. Lets say AA should win 80 percent of the time but on the site it wins 60 percent. Hmmmm. or the one and two outers hit more than the 5 percent?

one player changes names to cover or so you cant track the bots?

How many samples are we running? We prolly need a plus 1000 hands of AA vs the field. Ppl need to do their research and understand the actual game they are playing. I'm sure you ppl are smarter than this.

 

[Luvepoker]

How many samples are we running? We prolly need a plus 1000 hands of AA vs the field. Ppl need to do their research and understand the actual game they are playing. I'm sure you ppl are smarter than this.

Thats the problem. People will take there stats and show the problem but will only have a small same size. Before my hard drive crashed I had a decent sample size of 300K hands. Aces won 82% of the time. About where is should be.

 

[deadguy2]

Some sites might have a bit more action flops then other but I don't think any site is rigged. The thing I watch for now days is teams of people playing in the same MTT's

 

[blueskies]

It's hilarious to me that some people automatically label anyone who thinks some online poker sites are rigged are losers. It is like the SJWs on the one side and wingnuts on the other in the US. Everything has to be extremes. Why can't the truth in somewhere in the middle.

Another ignorant thing some people say is why would you play online if you think it is rigged. Why are you so stupid to keep playing on a site you think is rigged and keep losing money.

Well if you are winning but you are winning much less because of questionable algorithms, you are still winning but should you be happy that you aren't winning as much as the probabilities say you should.

I am a winner and I think certain sites do have, let's say, unusual frequencies of low-probability things happening more often than might be reasonable. Other sites have frequencies that better reflect what the normal probabilities should be, so I play there more. Of course, some people will say "variance" to dismiss everything.

And for the record, I think problems with the RNG algorithms are more likely due to a problem in the coding than on purpose.

 

[Artbart805]

I win and turn a good profit live, cash and tournaments. Online, are too many bad beats and long runs of poor hands in good starting positions,

You hold AQ o. If the flop comes AQ9o, I a say you will see a 9 or a in the river or turn, or runners , especially if villain , Is tagged as a site favorite.

 

[danoscar]

I always look for my own faults when I lose. Otherwise, what's the use?

 

[fundiver199]

It's hilarious to me that some people automatically label anyone who thinks some online poker sites are rigged are losers.

Maybe not all "riggies" are losers, but at the same time I have never heard about someone winning significant money online, who think, the games are rigged. What all "riggies" have in common though is the lack of actual evidence behind their theories. Its usually something along the lines of "A bad hand happened online, OMG this shit is weird". Or maybe their aces got cracked 3 times in a row, or whatever it is.

And to be honest I dont really see, how all this nonsense contribute to CC forum in a meaningfull way. Basically the whole point of this website is to promote poker including online poker, and CC is an affiliate of several poker sites, where for instance CC freerolls are hosted. And all those unsubstantiated speculations about the RNG of whatever poker site are not exactly helpfull in making new players feel comfortable.

As someone recently wrote, its a bit like a restaurant teeming up with a producer of organic meat to offer free burgers every wednesday. And then it has people showing up every week for the free burger but at the same time always talking to the other customers about, how they are sure, the meat is not organic. Of course they dont have any actual evidence for this, but that does not matter, because its their "opinion"

 

[aleomar86]

I think no one wants to admit that he is a bad player, and it is true, when he loses he usually blames the site and says things that one does not have proof of, such as that the site is manipulated.

 

[INISHTE]

Hi friend.

I still do not consider myself a winning player, but I would not blame the game for my losses, because I know that PokerStars is a safe site.

 

[bakang]

Ya gotta wonder though. I remember a poker site being shut down because their owner was cheating (Ultimate Bet, Full Tilt, Absolute). I've been online gaming since it's inception and I know the internet is jammed full of cheaters and hackers. If no one cheats how come the poker sites constantly upgrade their software? And if cheaters are taking your money and the poker site catches them they are not going to tell you about it. Live poker doesn't "upgrade". Cards are cards. Ever hear of bots? Why do my 90+% odds of winning the hand pre-river lose 80% of the time? Not just me that notices that. But I do agree - play with house money that way you have nothing to lose and no reason to whine. Good luck and just have fun!

the idea that a site like, idk, bet on lies, or yoke you hard, doesn't have a HUD on you is ridiculous. They use the info of what you play the same way any other site does. Once you win a few times in a row, it wakes up the algorithm and they steal it back from you, imo.

 

[GARCIA PABLO DANIEL]

hello

very good reflection on your comment .. quite realistic it is likely that this is the case !! but one should never stop dreaming but what sense does it make !!! you have to play you have to learn not to be one of those losers that he says! I don't even blame the soft. nor to the game when I lose sometimes bad luck others unfairly but it is part of the game ... but I play salites I have classified in several and I have won prizes ... so if I am a regular player I could go far because one day I will not win it! power can be done !! you have to believe you have to dream you have to live poker and one day it will happen !! the big blow not to be so pessimistic but optimistic you do not become a millionaire overnight but in the long term you can go far .. greetings and blessings ...

 

[Lena M]

Hello.
I play poker because the game gives me pleasure. And for me this is the main thing. I have good results and my bankroll is growing, it's also nice. But the pleasure of the game for me always comes first.

 

[1nsomn1a]

I think you just need to try to win despite everything that seems unfair, play more carefully, do not rush to invest all your chips even if you have two aces, you have two ways to either adapt or not waste time and nerves on poker.

 

[Alizona]

Usually, bad players are sore losers (not always, but usually). It is painful to lose all the time and rarely win, eventually most will snap from that kind of stress and if they keep playing they become angry sore losers.

Conversely, all sore losers are bad players... because good players realize two things that sore losers do not:
1. Even the best players will lose at poker sometimes. Good players realize losing is a part of the game and they will never be a whiny b*tch about it. Good player simply move on to their next game.
2. Good players realize that it is highly counterproductive to be mean and nasty and annoying at the poker table... because these things do not make poker fun for our opponents... and good players understand that keeping their opponents in a happy mood as they fleece the contents of their wallets, is VERY IMPORTANT. It's sort of the "art of poker", point #2, and only good players understand this one. Players who lose at the poker table but still have a good time while they are there, those players will return with more money in their wallets. Players who lose at the poker table but don't have fun while doing so, they will be less willing to reload and return someday. We should always always always entertain and smile and even offer condolences to our opponents (even if we don't mean it LOL). Be nice at the tables!!!

 

[willjosp]

my opition

The comment is very true, the bad player or bad loser will never acknowledge his shortcomings, he will always justify his lack of knowledge, skill or decision, in bad comments to the gaming platforms or even live.

 

[bakang]

Don't confuse the people with the rigging site. Bet On Lies doesn't care about your opinion, they're busy stealing from anyone willing to go to show down with a better starting hand. All they would have to do is publish their monthly Went to Show Down stats, but they don't. imo, it's disgusting to expect to lose any time I see I'm going to show down with a better starting hand. It's why the game is still not legal in the USA.

 

[EllyWriter]

Don't confuse the people with the rigging site. Bet On Lies doesn't care about your opinion, they're busy stealing from anyone willing to go to show down with a better starting hand. All they would have to do is publish their monthly Went to Show Down stats, but they don't. imo, it's disgusting to expect to lose any time I see I'm going to show down with a better starting hand. It's why the game is still not legal in the USA.

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[molokheia]

hi there

i would like to know why you win 2/3 days in a row and lose the same period?

what balance is that?

rgds

 

[daddybrooks]

I am a bad player and a loser.

Beat me to it, was totally gonna just say that because i am suuuuuuchhh a sore loser. I so hate losing any game/hand whatsoever. I rarely will say it out loud at a casino table, but if you bad beat me, believe it, i'm swearing at you hard core in my mind for making that dipshit push all in or snap call with nothing and you runner runner me out.