Your own top 5 tips for beating micros?

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Hey

This post is aimed at people who have beat micro limit cash games and have moved onto bigger things. I have read a good few articles on this but I wanted to hear peoples personal views, what is the best 5 things to do to beat the micro cash games?

Thanx for the feed back CCers :)
 
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1 - Value bet
2 - Value bet
3 - Value bet
4 - Value bet
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1. BRM
2. Play tighter if the table is loose/Play more loose-aggressive if the table is super-tight.
3. Avoid fancy play syndrome
4. Value-bet more.
5. win.
 
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All of the above and I would also add don't bluff nearly as much as you think you should. I find a lot of my money was lost in micro limits bluffing into donks who are calling down with like 3rd pair.
 
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They've covered a lot so I don't have 5, but one I would like to add is that you should raise more preflop. There are soooooo many players that just limp in all the time. Those are the players I make 80% of my money off of.

Oh one more...position. Position is very very important. The amount of money I win from the button is waaaaay higher than what I win from any other position. Its not even close.
 
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Be prepared for super weird plays..

I see people 4 and 5 betting cards like K9 off, but playing them as if they were better than freggin aces.
 
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1) Position is just as important as cards. Sometimes more important.
2) Don't limp
3) I know sometimes it pays off, but do not lose your stack on TPTK
4) Tighten up your starting hands. No, even tighter. Tiiiighhhhtteerrrr!
5) Never, even check if you think you are ahead. Value bet your brains out
 
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play aggressively. if they are playing micro, means they dont have a huge bankroll. hence they are afraid of losing chips :)
 
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if there are ppl who are very aggressive, then i guess play tight, wait for top 10 hands and shuff all in :)
 
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2. Play tighter if the table is loose/Play more loose-aggressive if the table is super-tight.

If the table is super-tight then I'd say leave the table and find a better one. Table selection is huge and there is always a table where there are 30% or more players seeing the flop, especially at the micros. Makes a huge difference for your game.
 
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1- BRM. Position.
2- If you're the first in the pot-raise.
3- Just because the button raises, it doesn't mean he's ALWAYS stealing your blind.
4- Fold a weak ace,unless you're making a semibluff in late position, but accept the fact that you might have to lay it down.
5- Fold small pairs and hand like KJ KQ J10 when someone is showing strength.
 
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4) Tighten up your starting hands. No, even tighter. Tiiiighhhhtteerrrr!

I tend to have a different style when it comes to this. I think it's better to play a little looser.

If you can beat micros, you probably play marginal situations better than most other micro players. Add to the fact that people are playing whack cards...

Then shouldn't you be playing a little more loose pre? At the micro level, more people are willing to stack off light, so why not marginally loosen your starting range?
 
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I tend to have a different style when it comes to this. I think it's better to play a little looser.

If you can beat micros, you probably play marginal situations better than most other micro players. Add to the fact that people are playing whack cards...

Then shouldn't you be playing a little more loose pre? At the micro level, more people are willing to stack off light, so why not marginally loosen your starting range?


You don't beat rags with rags. You beat rags with good cards. And if you are assuming they are stacking off light, and thus calling more stack-sized bets, what are you doing if not stacking off light?

With no fold equity (and there is no fold equity in the micros), loose play is worthless. It's a leak.
 
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That is a losing situation because you are blowing away chips when you don't have to. Playing those speculative hands when you don't have to is costing you each hand you play. They are stacking off light, yes, but I'm willing to bet that you are going to be calling those shoves more often thinking that and when they are holding 3-9o to your K9o and the board comes 359 and you call all-in because you have top pair against their terrible range and then lose and get pissed. And it happens all of the time and I watch people get so pissed. Whereas if you would just wait for an actual good hand to get it in good in the same situations, because those bad players will do the same thing when you have a good hand believe it or not, then you will take the pot down.
 
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That is a losing situation because you are blowing away chips when you don't have to. Playing those speculative hands when you don't have to is costing you each hand you play. They are stacking off light, yes, but I'm willing to bet that you are going to be calling those shoves more often thinking that and when they are holding 3-9o to your K9o and the board comes 359 and you call all-in because you have top pair against their terrible range and then lose and get pissed. And it happens all of the time and I watch people get so pissed. Whereas if you would just wait for an actual good hand to get it in good in the same situations, because those bad players will do the same thing when you have a good hand believe it or not, then you will take the pot down.

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Do not apply tactics you see on videos or that are "usual"

cause I saw that even if u play your hand correctly , you can still get some users newbye that act as not expected. * I speak for micro stakes cause ppl havent experience and think every hand can be good or that everyone bluff * ---> I saw a friend coming out with 2-3 not suited heavily, and winning vs aces or Kings thanks to nice flops and a big ass.

Like you got KK and as around they say , bet 3 or 4 times more on preflop.

You do that and someone follows you, then it comes out he just had some low cards but thanks to the flop maybe he beats you, and then you dont understand cause every videos tells you your KK + bet x4 will scare any 2- 5 not suited.
 
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Genozzolo....I'm guessing english isn't your first language, so I just wanted to say...great spelling man. Your grammar is a little off, but your spelling is great. Sorry I just wrote a 19page paper in the last 6 hours and am super tired....
 
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1) ABC poker (Let bad players feed you money)

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if i had to include 2-5 they'd be

2) value bet a little thinner -- people will call down bad

3) Do not make big laydowns unless you have a reason to

4) In tune with 3 do not make Hero calls unless you have a reason for doing so

5) Avoid FPS, you will level yourself against morons
 
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never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever BLUFF!!! u get called down with next to nothing. Use this to ur advantage and wait for big hands and extract value on every street and dont be disheartened f they catch some donkish two pair on the river, its just the variance of poker
 
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1) Position is just as important as cards. Sometimes more important.
2) Don't limp
3) I know sometimes it pays off, but do not lose your stack on TPTK
4) Tighten up your starting hands. No, even tighter. Tiiiighhhhtteerrrr!
5) Never, even check if you think you are ahead. Value bet your brains out


+++ 4 (ok the others too)
good advice in this thread, I have nothing to say, cause I believe it has all been covered. But, speaking from experience, micro stakes is another definition for "Tight starting range". They say it takes one to know one, so I can see a loose fish who will open with ATC from a mile away..............uhhhhhhhhhhhhh did I really just say that??????

oh yea, Trew, do you think bluffing is a bad idea? lol. Good point though.
 
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You can bluff in position with a cbet and also second barrel if you have 1 opponent and he checks again on the turn... I don't find any other good spots in micros for bluffing. It's hard to make someone lay down a hand, but they can always fold if they switch to check/fold mode and you notice it.
 
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