What do you do in this spot? 1-3 NL Live

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So I just got back to playing 1-3 Live NL at the casino. I hop onto a table and Buy-In for 200$, BI range from 100-300

After playing for a while maybe 30 minutes I get dealt KQ suited. I'm in the SB and it is limped to me. I raise it to 12$ and get 2 callers.


UTG2 - Girl (I have no info on her, she's young and enthusiastic and she does play the 1-3 normally at my casino)


UTG1 - Older guy seems like he is playing tight


Flop comes out: K spades, 4 spades, 8 hearts


I bet out 25$ into 48$, UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises it too 75$???, .


I sit there and think for a while wondering what in the hell this girl would raise me to 75$ unless she has a Pair /w flush draw or a flush draw or maybe AK.


I think she realized I was new to the 1-3 and just wanted to "teach me a lesson" UTG1 folded. I wasn't sure what in the hell to do. I just know I was not about to stack off with Top Pair / Good kicker. I thought about going All-In but just figured this girl could have two-pair or AK or who in the hell knows a set? It just angered me that I wasted 37$ that quick.


Was that too tight? 1-3 is such a dangerous game. The raises are big and every hand your in is for your stack basically.
 
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Buy-in for table max.

Raise larger preflop, $33

As played, fold. Live recs are not x/r here with a FD, they x/r their sets to protect against the FDs on this board. 2P is highly unlikely as is AK. Without a solid read that villain x/r FDs to get free rivers, her range is purely sets.
 
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It is hard to call when you don't know the players, you did say she was a reg though. My guess is she was probably on a set and you saved yourself some chips. No one likes to get pushed around but. . .
 
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So I just got back to playing 1-3 Live NL at the casino. I hop onto a table and Buy-In for 200$, BI range from 100-300

After playing for a while maybe 30 minutes I get dealt KQ suited. I'm in the SB and it is limped to me. I raise it to 12$ and get 2 callers.


UTG2 - Girl (I have no info on her, she's young and enthusiastic and she does play the 1-3 normally at my casino)


UTG1 - Older guy seems like he is playing tight


Flop comes out: K spades, 4 spades, 8 hearts


I bet out 25$ into 48$, UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises it too 75$???, .


I sit there and think for a while wondering what in the hell this girl would raise me to 75$ unless she has a Pair /w flush draw or a flush draw or maybe AK.


I think she realized I was new to the 1-3 and just wanted to "teach me a lesson" UTG1 folded. I wasn't sure what in the hell to do. I just know I was not about to stack off with Top Pair / Good kicker. I thought about going All-In but just figured this girl could have two-pair or AK or who in the hell knows a set? It just angered me that I wasted 37$ that quick.


Was that too tight? 1-3 is such a dangerous game. The raises are big and every hand your in is for your stack basically.

Having played in these weird types of game I think you should have called one street and evaluated. If you raised it in the small blind I'm guessing they limped which people do with 44 and 88 in 1/3, but also with all types of other trash hands including weak suited kings and flush draws.


You are correct in assuming you shouldn't be trying to stack off with just top pair in these stakes but you also cant let yourself get pushed around by people betting their draws big. You have a great hand to call down with especially if someone checks back the turn. My advice would be to mix it up a little more and don't have monster under the bed syndrome.


That being said I'm not clairvoyant you could have easily dodged a bullet there from a set
 
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So I just got back to playing 1-3 Live NL at the casino. I hop onto a table and Buy-In for 200$, BI range from 100-300

After playing for a while maybe 30 minutes I get dealt KQ suited. I'm in the SB and it is limped to me. I raise it to 12$ and get 2 callers.


UTG2 - Girl (I have no info on her, she's young and enthusiastic and she does play the 1-3 normally at my casino)


UTG1 - Older guy seems like he is playing tight


Flop comes out: K spades, 4 spades, 8 hearts


I bet out 25$ into 48$, UTG1 folds, UTG2 raises it too 75$???, .


I sit there and think for a while wondering what in the hell this girl would raise me to 75$ unless she has a Pair /w flush draw or a flush draw or maybe AK.


I think she realized I was new to the 1-3 and just wanted to "teach me a lesson" UTG1 folded. I wasn't sure what in the hell to do. I just know I was not about to stack off with Top Pair / Good kicker. I thought about going All-In but just figured this girl could have two-pair or AK or who in the hell knows a set? It just angered me that I wasted 37$ that quick.


Was that too tight? 1-3 is such a dangerous game. The raises are big and every hand your in is for your stack basically.



Fold, and never think about the hand again. She has 2p+. It doesn't matter if you can't make sense of the play, she has you beat.




And if you're worried about $37, you aren't rolled properly or you have hate losing tilt.




I'm going to tell you one lesson, and it's saved me thousands of dollars..... take it or leave it.....




If you play 1/2 or 1/3, and people raise you, unless you have actually seen a showdown that they bluff raised , they have 2p+. Rec players at 1/2 and 1/3 rarely bluff. If you see someone show down a hand that was a bluff, take note of it. File that player in the "capable of bluffing" category.


So if you find yourself in a similar spot again, make the exploitable fold. They aren't trying to teach you a lesson or outplay you bro.
 
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Thank you Bean. Your a solid player man. I seen your videos and have checked out your thread on here. Those are some incredible stats man keep it up wow. Living the dream brother. Yeah I am actually back on 1-2 now. 1-3 was just simply too much money to risk. 300 bi's is just too much for me at the moment. I been running good on 1-2 and had a cash of 482 profit today and about 400 couple days ago.

you couldn't be more correct my man. PEOPLE DO NOT BLUFF on 1-2!!! They usually have it about 80% of the time I would say. Also on 1-2 people usually only bet the river with two-pair or better that's kind of something i been noticing.

Check out this call i made. today on the 1-2

UTG: raises to 6 with 350 behind (young kid from broken game instantly straddling every pot, raising every hand)
UTG1: Fold
Me:UTG2: Call with KQ suited
UTG3: call 6
Everyone else folds

Flop: Q spade, 6 spade, 9 clubs
UTG: Bets out 20 into 18
Me: UTG2 call 20
UTG3: folds

Turn: 7 clubs
UTG: bets 20
Me: call 20

Pot Total: 98$

River: 3 clubs
UTG: Bets 150 in greens
Me: UTG3 I tank for a minute thinking why 150, why 150,????? doesn't he want value from his big hand??? The entire way through I had him on Q10, QJ, or a spade draw.

This kid was raising shit like AJ to 12$ pre flop so i knew if he had AQ he would of made it like 12 to go. I finally called him....He just says "You win" shows J10 spades :)

300-400$ pot. I've learned that 1-2 is a game you wait until you literally just wait until you have a monster....and don't put yourself into sticky situations or tough decisions just fold.
 
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Thank you Bean. Your a solid player man. I seen your videos and have checked out your thread on here. Those are some incredible stats man keep it up wow. Living the dream brother. Yeah I am actually back on 1-2 now. 1-3 was just simply too much money to risk. 300 bi's is just too much for me at the moment. I been running good on 1-2 and had a cash of 482 profit today and about 400 couple days ago.

you couldn't be more correct my man. PEOPLE DO NOT BLUFF on 1-2!!! They usually have it about 80% of the time I would say. Also on 1-2 people usually only bet the river with two-pair or better that's kind of something i been noticing.

Check out this call i made. today on the 1-2

UTG: raises to 6 with 350 behind (young kid from broken game instantly straddling every pot, raising every hand)
UTG1: Fold
Me:UTG2: Call with KQ suited
UTG3: call 6
Everyone else folds

Flop: Q spade, 6 spade, 9 clubs
UTG: Bets out 20 into 18
Me: UTG2 call 20
UTG3: folds

Turn: 7 clubs
UTG: bets 20
Me: call 20

Pot Total: 98$

River: 3 clubs
UTG: Bets 150 in greens
Me: UTG3 I tank for a minute thinking why 150, why 150,????? doesn't he want value from his big hand??? The entire way through I had him on Q10, QJ, or a spade draw.

This kid was raising shit like AJ to 12$ pre flop so i knew if he had AQ he would of made it like 12 to go. I finally called him....He just says "You win" shows J10 spades :)

300-400$ pot. I've learned that 1-2 is a game you wait until you literally just wait until you have a monster....and don't put yourself into sticky situations or tough decisions just fold.

Nice call down! As I was reading it I thought "he missed his FD"




Glad to see you back at the 1/2 again, and glad to see you winning man! Keep up the good work!
 
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What to do in that spot

Well the thing that makes the decision tougher than it should be is that you haven't given us any info on the girl you were playing. If she had been playing passive most the night doing alot of calling but not alot of raising then it's a pretty easy fold. If she had been doing alot of 3 betting in position and had been caught bluffing recently then I would definitely call and see if she slows down.
 
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Look at the board and the action. say large pocket pairs are 3-betting pre, and you block kings, queens, and AK. What hands can she have here? Hands you are losing to, pocket 4s, pocket 8s, and 84, you are probably ahead of 1 pair hands based on what we said about preflop. There are no draws on board. What is the purpose of her raise? We can rule out protection unless she is limp-calling with AK. Otherwise you are very bad shape against her value range. In addition you c-bet into a mutliway pot, you are rarely if ever going to have a bluff in this situation, making it less likely she is trying to stab at it when YOU can have AA and AK in your range.

Edit - Forgot to say good fold, even if you were wrong this time, it was the right fold long term, keep playing well and you will profit long term.
 
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