Tough spot, fold or what ?

[geog]

everyone has more than 100bb cash game

hero utg with QQ raises 3bb

everyone folds, SB calls, BB calls

flop 224 rainbow,

hero bets 4bb, sb calls, bb calls,

turn 4h

sb bets 7bb, bb calls, hero calls

river 6d

sb bets 43bb, bb folds, what do we do here ?

 

[eetenor]

everyone has more than 100bb cash game

hero utg with QQ raises 3bb

everyone folds, SB calls, BB calls

flop 224 rainbow,

hero bets 4bb, sb calls, bb calls,

turn 4h

sb bets 7bb, bb calls, hero calls

river 6d

sb bets 43bb, bb folds, what do we do here ?

Thank U 4 Posting.

What does your player pool usually have when they shove that river? A bluff vs 2 players who called the turn lead or a 2 or 4 or 64.

If you know this player is wild maybe you can call here but if so why not wait for a better spot.

Even a wild player can have a 2 here. BB could have had a 2 or 4 so why would SB think they could bluff both of you?


Hope this helps

 

[mar_dragan]

everyone has more than 100bb cash game

hero utg with QQ raises 3bb

everyone folds, SB calls, BB calls

flop 224 rainbow,

hero bets 4bb, sb calls, bb calls,

turn 4h

sb bets 7bb, bb calls, hero calls

river 6d

sb bets 43bb, bb folds, what do we do here ?

We fold,the only thing that bothers me is that he called preflop on your raise, but still he is small blind,so in my opinion fold is option.
Next time with QQ raise 10bb at least.

 

[fundiver199]

Without a read I am folding here. Its absolutely plausible, he would play 4X this way, and its quite unlikely, he is bluffing for the size of the pot into two opponents, who both called him on the turn.

 

[geog]

I fold and he showed his cards and had quads. I raised only 3bb to not scare the table and I usually like to limp min raise from utg with big hands

 

[fundiver199]

I dont have any problem with the 3BB open raise. Its completely normal in online poker, and there is no theoretical reason, why a larger size should be used in live games. Sure if everyone is calling preflop, there is merit to size up and play less hands. But in this spot you only got called by the blinds, which you dont particularly mind. At the end of the day he was just setmining, he flopped his set, and you lost the absolute minimum. Well played.

 

[Evan Jarvis]

everyone has more than 100bb cash game

hero utg with QQ raises 3bb

everyone folds, SB calls, BB calls

flop 224 rainbow,

hero bets 4bb, sb calls, bb calls,

turn 4h

sb bets 7bb, bb calls, hero calls

river 6d

sb bets 43bb, bb folds, what do we do here ?

You can comfortably fold here. think about it, what hands is he calling the flop with?

2x, 4x, 35s (if he has that preflop) and pocket pairs.

Which of those hands would lead out on the turn when the board pairs (probably not the pocket pairs)

which of those hands are you beating on the river? (basically none of them).

It's important to be able to fold a 'big hand' at any point when the action is saying it's no good. Yes you have queens, and yes it's an overpair, but given what's on the board and how your opponent has played thus far, it's very unlikely that your pair of queens is good.