Tightness or timidity?

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Hi,
I win reasonably regularly at cash games, but I think it's just because many players don't recognise (what to me are) my rather obvious tactics: - playing super-tight, winning my big hands. It's sometimes boring, but wins, which isn't (boring).
I was at a £1/£2 cash game, at a casino, that was rather bluffy, and where everyone else knew each other.

BB straddled £5, which I always hate esp if I am next to bet
I had two fives, so I called, as did three others.
I thought of just folding or even raising, but it was a very low pair and o-o-p

The flop was 10, 8, 3.
Big blind bet £15
What would you do?

I folded.
The guy to my left called as did one other.

The Turn was a 5 ... !
All three checked.

The river was a 3
BB bet £40
One guy folded and big blind called.
The guy to my left won with 333.

I think he knew that BB was a frequent bluffer and had sussed her out.
omg
Tightness or timidity on my part? Happy to hear productive comments.

I won £60 at the table overall (purely because, in one round, BB bluffed and had an even worse hand than I). I was the fish that won.


 
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Playing too nitty is also costing you money. You might be a winning player, but passing on profitable spots is 100% cutting into your winrate.

For example, you say you have a read that the table is rather bluffy. Assuming that your read is correct, the proper exploitative adjustment to someone over-bluffing is to call them down lighter than usual.

As for this specific situation, I would've folded 55 UTG. Open limping is very sketchy, but if your table rarely squeezes and limps behind a lot it's probably not a huge mistake. As played, I'm also folding to any bet multiway after missing the flop. The turn being a five is irrelevant. Fives are probably good enough to float heads-up versus a villain who over-bluffs the flop though.
 
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With so many players in the hand someone has a ten or eight. I would fold there as well. Even if it was just a draw there are a lot of cards that will beat you or make it tough to continue.

As for tight, that's ok as long as its not to tight. I know a lady I played with for years who never ever raises. OK when she has aces she will. Dont ever recall her raising anything else. I had kings one night and she 3 bet me big. I did not have the odds to set mine due to the size of the stacks and her bet and made the redikulous fold. She showed me her aces as always. Only person I ever folded aces to but that's how nitty players lose money. Dont be to tight.
 
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Preflop
I personally dont limp but maybe its ok to limp small pairs from early in some very soft live games, where people are to passive and dont understand, that your limp represents a very narrow and specific range.

Flop
Easy fold. It seems to me, the only reason, you have questions about this hand, is becauce you would have hit a perfect turn card. But we obviously dont play a hand backwards. This line of thinking is like regretting to fold 72o preflop, because the flop came 227 or 772. Once we made a correct fold or a correct jam, it does not matter, how the board runs out.
 
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Easy fold on the flop...

If you are looking to set mine with a low PP and it misses, just fold.

You went to a cheap flop with a lot of players, that's what you want when you are setmining.
 
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You should focus on how you played, not 9n the results
 
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Rule 1 of improving at poker - don't be results oriented. This time the 5 happened to hit, but if you called 100 times, it only happens 4% of the time, and 96% of the time you called, you'll miss and then fold the turn. Even if you hit you probably only get 1 more bet. You only get paid off if they hit two pair.

You simply don't have the pot odds or implied odds to continue.
 
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Cash game is for few people, I admire people like you who use the strategy in their favor.
 
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