Questionable with QQ pre and post flop?

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In a 5/5 live casino game, table is aggressive; lots of open and 3bet; limp and 3bet...

UTG 1 fold
UTG 2 ($600) open raise
MP 1 fold
MP 2 fold
CO fold
BTN fold
SB fold
Me BB ($400)

UTG 2 open raise $25, I call with QcQs preflop
flop Jc 6h 2c pot ($55)
I check, UTG 2 bet $35, I raise all in for $375.... Is there a better way to play QQ in this situation?
 
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Why not just call down? or raise, The only time you are getting called here is when you are probably beat with Aces or two pair or better, and if you are looking to get a fold you can do it with a decent raise instead anyway
 
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probably in this situation, I would play the same way, it seems to me that 90% I would have made the same rates.
 
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I agree with Forest Leaves. The only hands that are calling you in that situation have you beat and then you lose your whole stack.

If you are intending for your opponent to fold because you are afraid that AK hitting to beat you, you can do that with a much smaller bet while still getting any paired jacks to still call.
 
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why not 3bet preFlop, with a cBet on the flop.
much less risky all-in
 
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In a 5/5 live casino game, table is aggressive; lots of open and 3bet; limp and 3bet...

UTG 1 fold
UTG 2 ($600) open raise
MP 1 fold
MP 2 fold
CO fold
BTN fold
SB fold
Me BB ($400)

UTG 2 open raise $25, I call with QcQs preflop
flop Jc 6h 2c pot ($55)
I check, UTG 2 bet $35, I raise all in for $375.... Is there a better way to play QQ in this situation?


Sounds reasonable, you don't want to give him the chance of getting any cards if he has no pocket pair. That said evidently one has to think about how he is playing, if he was too tight all along maybe he has a pair, but your chances look good.
 
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Yes, I agree.
1) pre flop, If i 3bet to 95, and got 4bet from utg, it's an all in pre-flop vs UTG (which is kind of bad)
2) on flop, I was thinking about calling, to see what the turn come, then proceed from there...since I am not afraid of the bad run out, I feel like if he has A10, 99, JJ he is behind, if he has AKs with flush draw, KK, and AA I am behind anyway.
 
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Probably I play the same way, only change something if I had a good about other player.
 
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Well you said it was an aggressive table so your all-in is understandable.

Otherwise you could have played for some more value by just calling.
 
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QQ is tricky. It can be a an all-in hand, or it can be an open hand that gets folded to a re-raise. I like this line of play
UTG 2 raises 35
Hero raise 70 (raise small here) The UTG would be folding J6 here and only keeping pairs, or good drawing hands
UTG 2 call to flop or if UTG 2 3bets, Hero call

FLop comes out (villain may fold a random jack to pressure here, but not a high pocket overpair, or a flush draw)

Hero raises (important post flop to see where your opoponent is at.)
UTG 2 call (you get to see the turn) - but you are in trouble, if he raises small, fold (he is getting value for his made hand), if he raises big then push him all in. (he is bluffing the flush).
 
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