Question about Kings pre-flop in Zoom on Stars.

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Okay, just as a disclaimer, I tend to play 2NL (usually 4 tabling nowadays) or 10NL (2 tabling), otherwise, I'll just single table (I play 95% of the time 6-handed). Aside from the fact that it's 6 handed, the fact that I'm multi-tabling is unimportant to my question below.

Those of you who play Zoom on Stars, given the dynamic of the game itself, know that it's really tough to have a read on somebody, unless you play such a volume that you get to know players. I don't play that kind of volume, so my question is based on largely unknown players.

In this situation, I was in the Big Blind. I was dealt Kings, which I will almost always 3bet to isolate a single player, or to build a pot. Plus, the original raiser will put AK into your 3-betting range a large portion of the time. Sure enough, the original raiser raised 3x with 91 bb's behind, and I had him easily covered (237 bb's). I 3bet to 9 bb's, and he piled.

Now, every so often, they're just going to have Aces and I'll have to get lucky to crack them. However, here, he had TT and I won the pot. My question is, is it wrong to think that you should NEVER fold here given that you're ahead of their shoving range, as there are 6 combinations of Aces in that range? Or should I feel happy getting it in?

+EV or -EV to get your chips in with Kings?
 
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Correct, you should never fold, at this level, against an unknown.
 
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Never fold. If it is Aces or he cracks you move on to the next hand. It is way too much over thinking to fold KK here.
 
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In zoom you just w8 for hands like this,so how can you fold it.KK is very strong hand and its really hard to fold it ;)
 
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I'm never folding KK preflop. Just never.
 
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My opinion is same with the other's. No way to fol Kings at NL 2 . There are many recreational player who will call or raise with lower hands like 88-QQ or even QJs,KJs.... There will be situation when Villain hits he's Aces but you will win more than 50% of these situations so it's +EV
 
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Zoom on pokerstars pre flop a pair of kings you need to throw a pass in 8 cases out of 10, of course if we have to answer All-in.
 
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no fold, you need to go all-in and the weak hands will fold
 
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KK never fold pre in zoom
 
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foldkk?

Man it would be very hard to fold in this spot. But we all kno KK IS AN A magnet
 
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shouldnt fold your almost always ahead here so be glad someone gave you action whether you win or lose isnt inmportant. people will get luck y once in awhile or have AA. but not often. im happy when i get action on monster hands cause you dont get them often or always action
 
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no risk in poker you can play but impossible to win.
 
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It's a strong hand, I won many times with Kings, just hoping not come aces!
 
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you will know the answer

risk will always exist , ever seen so absurd thing to happen. More learned something qeu makes all the difference , it is very important you analyze all the players. all people usually have a custom within the game, not very comfortable for example to all in the beginning of a tournament out of position against a player that you do not know yet , if the player is careful and only playing hands as has altes letters be careful , . most likely by KK can win most hands . everything is a matter of position on the table. know the player . Think about it , it's worth I put at risk all my chips at this stage co turner ? you will know the answer
 
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If the preflop no AA it makes sense to play at all (only all in)
 
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Why do you want weaker hands to fold?
I also do not understand the logic. I imagine that he meant it will not be paid by all players at the table, which would be a little risky.
 
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I don't think I am folding KK pre in zoom either esp not knowing my opponents...
 
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There are many aggressive actions from players in zoom and not so many times that KK comes up against AA preflop.
If it gets cracked so be it, but it is almost always going to be right to play.
 
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