poker system or something else?

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When you play poker, do you play according to a system, or do you pay more attention to the players participating in the tournament?
 
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When you play poker, do you play according to a system, or do you pay more attention to the players participating in the tournament?
I play the people and the cards, not sure I would know how to play a system. No two games are the same, so any system would have to be dynamic to adjust to the situation, so it is no longer a system. Just guessing.
 
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it all depends on my mood sometimes I play according to the system and also watch the reaction of the players who are at the table if I see a passive player, I immediately start playing against him aggressively
 
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When you play poker, do you play according to a system, or do you pay more attention to the players participating in the tournament?
What you call system I call theory. The way the theory is applied is called methodology and this is present in any area of liberal sciences.
As others have said before, I play following the system and the psychological behavior of my opponents, i.e, I play the cards dealt and the sitting opponents.
And for that most of times we don’t need a HUD software, which in many cases can drastically affect our decisions to simple data analysis: read statistics such as VPIP, PFR, Fold to 3-bet, etc don’t turn us into winning players, for many times these softwares are incomplete information that bias our choices.
The most important is to have a dynamic range of hands that will change depending upon the players sitting by our side at the table.
Most of professionals will say that we can open 15% hands from EP and barely 50% hands from IP (Hijack, Cut-Off and Button), however it is not so simple as the charts imply.
If we really open 15% of hands from UTG regardless or our opponents, we are going to suffer a bunch of 3-bets for value and for bluff and we are going to fold a lot. We are going to get tons of calls of passive players and calling-stations, changing our odds, once we open hands from whatever seat to have position, thus our intention is to get more calls from the blinds than from players in position.
That being said, sometimes we are to play only 5% or 7% from EP, for either the table is too much active or too passive. Many times we are not even to open raise baby pocket pairs (22-66) under the risk of putting blinds on the pot for nothing, once we will have to fold to a polarized 3-bet or for a calling station that have a very frequent C-bet flop:
Henceforward we are playing throughout the system and also playing our opponents.
 
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I think both work together but if you aren't paying attention to the players you might as well sit out (y)
 
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For me you can apply a system to the cash games rather than mtts. In cash games you'll play the same opponents more often and for thousand hands, so a system will be needed, the opening range and sizes wont change that much especially if you do multi-tabling.
However the mtts have their dynamics, the blind level, tournament structure, players at the table, the bubble stage... and you have to adapt to each of that particular parameter to be a successful tournament player.
 
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I think that there is no such thing as a system, but a default game from which you occasionally have to deviate in order not to be easily labeled. To me, playing PLO, profiling the foes is paramount.
 
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When you play poker, do you play according to a system, or do you pay more attention to the players participating in the tournament?
no matter what the system is and in the end everything will be decided by the river);)
 
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The more i play system, the more i lose. the more i play cards on players an situations, the more i win.
SOmetimes i just having a good feeling for 93o or something and if i play this worst hand with the good feeling i hit 999 or something. can not explain but it works better as some "systems"...maybe call it instinct :)
 
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Playing with the other players, as realistic as can be, and calculating that there is a software between us.
 
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I play by the people and by the hands I get. Sometimes systems can't work...
 
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I find playing with other players and using cards , and I only need a small amount of assistance from a HUD .
 
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A mix of system (I.e. theory) and exploiting base don what I know about my opponent or the wider pool.

I think it always need to be a mix of the two to have any chance of winning at a decent rate
 
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I play to the cards and players, it is after all, a game of luck and strategies. People who play too much to the system and percentages, hold up the game, constantly working out what to do and end up p##*#** others off ,using up the time. Check, bet, raise or fold. That's the only options......
 
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Set up a base strategy and deviate as necessary...

eg, have a high frequency c-bet for a small sizing on X Y and Z boards... If villain is a whale size up with good hands and take him to the cleaners
 
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