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I have been thinking about poker and how i do , i really like to play but there are some times that you really should not play. I get a big cash for me ... but then i go into the next two sessions and lose my gains. The thing is i can discern it i feel like i have a cloud over ,my head and i still keep playing... Makes me want to quit all together.
 
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Make notes of what you are feeling and when, so you can better determine when you should not be playing.
 
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i knew it but i just kept playing.
 
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Sounds like you have an addiction issue. Maybe try make some rules that you have to follow if you do play. If you break the rules, make some sort of punishment like doing volunteer work at a soup kitchen or a shelter for the homeless (something positive). If this doesn't work you need to get professional help.
 
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here micro manual:

- mark your goals on a piece of paper
- identify your weak points on a piece of paper
- keep that paper in a visible place and follow directions
- in difficult moments, be sure to take a break for a while


gl and hf :)
 
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I play live games. One of my problems is am to tight . For those that think i may have a gambling problem i disagree , i just like to play and my amounts i get upset about losing are smaller that many peoples bets.. I get just as upset losing 40 bucks or 200 bucks as i believe i should be able to make money most every time.
 
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theres some people who naturaully have this gambling in them thats extremely hard to control. Ive actually researched it a little and some people literally are just born with it (dont remember exactly what chemicals or whatever it is that effects it). I'm defenitely the worst of them all. Ive had a run from $25 - $4.2k in a 33 hour session once and lost it all the next day. ive had countless runs from $25 -$500+ but was never able to hold on to it. i realized im a good player and can make good money player but as long as i have an income ill never stop gambling it away. 6 months ago i quit my job (having no money saved) to purposely cut off my income stream so i can focus on bankroll management. i took several months of pure studying and playing freerolls here and there. i ran up $1 several times now, a few times to $50, once to $400 but still havent been able to hold on to it for longer than a few weeks. im seeing very great improvement as i wasnt able to hold on to it for longer than a few days earlier. I'm not trying to tell you to take the same measures because its probably stupid lol but the point is sit down and think about what you need to do to improve and do whatever it takes to improve it. bankroll management is one of the most important things and being profitable is impossible without it. everyone is naturally good with some things and bad with other things. Not being able to hold on to the bankroll doesnt mean you have a less chance of making it, it just means the things you have to work on are different than what other players need to work on and it will be harder for you. doesnt make it impossible tho.
(btw im only 20 thats why im able to quit my job since i live with my parents. im not just a crazy person that decided **** it lol and will go back to work if it doesnt work out in some time.)
 
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Also why i mentioned bankroll anagement so much is because if you get a big win it should be impossible to lose it in the next few sessions no matter how bad you play/run. use a 50 buy in rule for cash games and a 100-200 buy in rule for tournaments.
 
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A friend told me this , when you win go out and buy something. get something tangable for it it builds a mindset.
 
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I have been thinking about poker and how i do , i really like to play but there are some times that you really should not play. I get a big cash for me ... but then i go into the next two sessions and lose my gains. The thing is i can discern it i feel like i have a cloud over ,my head and i still keep playing... Makes me want to quit all together.

It sounds like you may be chasing the high and the rush of winning a bit. Very common after a winning session to want more, or to expect it to happen again the next time which can lead to forcing the play a little bit.

There's also something called Entitlement Tilt which Jared Tendler talks about in the Mental Game of Poker (great book, highly recommended for understanding emotions better).

If you're thinking about quitting, here's a video to help with the key considerations

And know that there's nothing wrong with quitting if Poker isn't giving you what you want from it. In that case quitting can easily be the healthiest thing to do!
 
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I started out losing and moved to another where the guy had been winning. I finished the session with 6 pocket aces all won and 2 straight flushes. i made over 400 but i really can not say my play had a whole lot to do with it. :)
 
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You are getting too deep into poker. Get up and take a break
 
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If u want play poker and win (always is imposible) u must make rules like when u play poker (for example: only when you have at least 1 hour and only between 7:00 - 11:00 p.m.), how long u play poker in one session (you can set the alarm clock). If you lose a lot of money. Take a brake (and breathe :)) and analyze your game. But you must read this rules before your every session (is important). Train it.

Good luck
 
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A friend told me this , when you win go out and buy something. get something tangable for it it builds a mindset.
I hate that advice. I have a friend who always loses at poker no matter how much he wins. Once that free money is in his pocket he spends, spends,spends. He gets a lot of high hand bonuses and gives the dealer 25%. Then he sends his kids a few hundred each. All the while he still owes $200000 on a mortgage and credit cards.

IF you need something of lasting value, fine. But you have to practice good bankroll mgmt throughout your entire life.

Pay off every bill you have. Once that is done and you don't have the discipline to save, invest, then prepay your bills for the next month or two. I have a tenant who pays me 3 months in advance because he knows he can't trust himself with the money and it gives him a cushion when his work slows down in winter.
 
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When I'm in a bad mood, it's better not to play poker. The loss will be guaranteed, and with it the deterioration of mood. In this case, it is better to spend time as some other. With family, with friends or alone, but without poker.
 
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If you are feeling like it's a cloud over head when you are playing poker sometimes you have to realize that feeling and back away from the table or computer and take a break. Playing poker when you are feeling like this usually ends up with a terrible session of poker and you regretting losing your bankroll, listen to yourself and enjoy your pervious win.
 
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I have been thinking about poker and how i do , i really like to play but there are some times that you really should not play. I get a big cash for me ... but then i go into the next two sessions and lose my gains. The thing is i can discern it i feel like i have a cloud over ,my head and i still keep playing... Makes me want to quit all together.


what you said about "feeling it" surprised me. me too! it's weird because i tend to win more when i'm feeling really good or having a good day in general too.
that 'cloud over your head' feeling is always followed by crazy beats over and over.
i don't care if people think it's nuts.. i hear ya lol
 
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well think about practicing meditation to get organized and do not affect the control of bankrool, be aware of its limits
 
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Sounds like you have an addiction issue. Maybe try make some rules that you have to follow if you do play. If you break the rules, make some sort of punishment like doing volunteer work at a soup kitchen or a shelter for the homeless (something positive). If this doesn't work you need to get professional help.

I really like the idea of this but im not to sure if learning a behavioural pattern linking helping others as punishment is a good idea for anyone to do really.Im not trying to pick apart the suggestion it's just something came to mind when reading it. In the same way i wouldn't advise anyone link exerise and punishment together they just seem like dangerous links to make.
 
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The key to avoiding the all to common ”boom then bust” cycle is bankroll management. If you make any kind of reasonable rule like never risking more than 5% of your bankroll on a cash game hand or 1% on a tournament fee, its not possible to have these runs, where you race up through the stakes and then bust, when you run out of luck.


If you cant pursuade yourself to do this, but you just HAVE to see, what a 100 NL cash table is like, even your balance is only 376$, then you honestly have a gambling problem. And if this is hurting your financially or otherwise, maybe it is best to self exclude from all online casinos. This is possible at least, where I live.
 
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I have been thinking about poker and how i do , i really like to play but there are some times that you really should not play. I get a big cash for me ... but then i go into the next two sessions and lose my gains. The thing is i can discern it i feel like i have a cloud over ,my head and i still keep playing... Makes me want to quit all together.
Learn to manage your bankroll so that poker can't control you. This is not a few articles can be found on the Internet. Before each session, set yourself a goal, for example: every day to play for profit. Profit 5 % . If something is wrong, rest. There will be a new day, there will be a new profit. So today is not your day. Good luck !
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Simply because you 'feel' something doesn't make it true. You only feel a cloud above your head, because that's what's in your head.

Look at Baseball players and Poker players similarly:

A pro baseball player who is the best in the world bats what .350?

That's only 3.5 hits for every 10 times at bat.

And theyre the best in the world.
 
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My problem is that I get just as upset about pots that I didn't enter as I do about pots I played and lost.
 
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