Playing AA-QQ without range advantage

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I have been wondering how to play spots where a (single) opponent has range advantage and we are out of position/in position. For example, say we open from the high-jack and the villian calls from the lo-Jack or CO. Flop is 8c7h6c.

Hero is a tag. Effective stacks 100bb in a $1- $2 casino full-ring game against a straight forward player in his earl 30's who over values 99-JJ. His range: 22-JJ, AK-A2, KQ-K7, QJ-Q7, 96-J8, 43o-JTo, 53o-J9o.

Are we supposed to be checking most of our range on dynamic boards when we don't have a range advantage ip/oop. Given this, how should we be playing our overpairs (AA-QQ).
 
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How could you figure out his rage with such precision?

You'll be wrong a lot of times and lose in the process. The range is so wide that it's a joke even considering that a player range in the first place. KQ-K7, QJ-Q7, 96-J8, 43o-JTo, 53o-J9o plus the other hands above this, makes it 45%. Are you kidding? There is no way of winning in this game no mater how you slice it. There's is no player alive today, even the current or past wsop champion that can handle that 45% rage of yours.
 
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I seem to remember that there are 2 schools for this European which says bet strong and USA one that says check. Both ways have their obvious strengths and weaknesses, but given there is 2 schools both probably are right and it's the villain type that dictates the flop action, what that is given your example I don't know but against honest opponent betting never can be bad imo.
 
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KQ-K7, QJ-Q7, 96-J8, 43o-JTo, 53o-J9o plus the other hands above this, makes it 45%. Are you kidding?

If Mackdog wrote loose loose LAG, maybe this would be accurate :) I would say that calling range for CO, when facing open from HJ (btw. LJ is before HJ :)) would be smth like 22-TT, suited connectors 78s-KQs, AJ, KJ, KT + 3bet range would be AA-JJ, AQ, AK, ATs and some suited bluffs (maybe weak aces, some low suited connectors).

Mackdog, the range you gave would be OK for loose open, definitely not for a tight call. If you face player calling like that (the other thing that AK and some other hands you mentioned are clearly 3 bets), it means that he is very loose (and possibly passive too, not aggresive).
 
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OP gave the range, I don't see the point of discussing villain's range, that is defined already.
 
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OP gave the range, I don't see the point of discussing villain's range, that is defined already.

I think there is a lot of sense in such discussion, because the range does not make any sense, especially with TAG label that he used referring to the villain. If this would be really TAG calling range in this spot, then we can assume that he can have pretty much anything besides real garbage. So I rather see no point in discussing situation that is wrongly defined in the first place.
 
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The point is that flop hitted him heavily, doesent really matter for the question.
 
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