Put opp on tilt? Absolute (site) idiots

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Last might i played an mtt where when it got down to the final 3 tbles i started to become agressive nothing much but stealing blinds twice a round and such. Suddely i found myself a pariah being called all kinds off rude names and such. One guy who i specifically targeted in the chat box and with my steals was a short stack to my direct left. He had 50k i had 200k.

I got into his head to such a degree that he called off his entire stack 25bbs With 5 3 suited which i had dominated:eek: and promptly lost. After this pple actually came to the rail just to insult me and try and put me on tilt as best i can work out.

Wtf is wrong with absolute tht 10 pple show up just to insult a player because he got lucky here and there it is stupid. I finished in 13th because it was 9 am and i really lost the will to live i made 4$ profit on the tourny 1$ rebuy but i cant seem to work out why the players turned on me.

BTW i beat every1 who was insulting:D
 
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Some people can't handle the fact that they suck. Me and you stefan...we handle that fact just fine so it's hard for us to understand. :D
 
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I have seen on TV, and accepted this as a very plausable explanation for why so many of the oldtimers don't seem to be up to modern poker play.

College kids, or groups of youth will gather at a place, dorm room, hang out, where ever. Their intent is to get very good at poker, very fast. I saw on TV, for last years wsop, a group of maybe 15-20 kids had rented a house and were constantly, 7/24, playing online. Showed a table with 8 or 10 PC's set up.

I believe this happens a lot in college dorms.
So it might be really really easy for them to collude for the group, and against any particular player. It might also be easy for them to take advantage of any loopholes they percieve in online gaming, but my point is not that.

It may very well be that a group of these kids decided they could break you, and your responses just egged them on.

As always, when the chat box bugs you, turn it off. Perhaps the last response to them should have been, "Stefanicov has turned chat off."
 
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I find this happening everywhere now. I play mainly sng's, and when it gets near the bubble (and especially when I'm shortstacked) I will get aggressive with less than spectacular hands. And shortly thereafter the guy who I knocked out is yelling that I'm a donkey.

I love how rage is always more expressive in grey or green in the chatbox.

Anyways, I ignore it... its always nice to give out a bad beat (calculated bad beat, but a bad beat nonetheless) instead of receiving one.

Robbie
 
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Happened to me last night. Playing in a SNG, I am short-stacked with about $1500 in chips w/an A5o so I call all in vs. A90 and make the straight. The dude ragged on me until I was knocked out. (Of course I beat him again w/quad 8's vs. his pair of 5's to double up again) After getting called a donkey a couple of times, one of the other players stepped up for me to try to get the dude to quit. I may have to start playing w/o the chat on.
 
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Wtf is wrong with absolute tht 10 pple show up just to insult a player because he got lucky here and there it is stupid. ...... i cant seem to work out why the players turned on me.

It's nothing to do with the site, just typically sourgrapes However you gotta agree, one can't help but be irritated by the bully at the table. I used to think that namecalling and putting others down was a sign of low self esteem but now I actually think it's a poker strategy to rattle the opposition. If it bothers you, turning off chat is the best advice unless you can come up with a great comeback.

I can remember someone loser saying in chat he was gonna "hunt me down, slit my throat and ***k my dead body" and my comeback was "NOT IF I FIND YOU FIRST YOU MF"

That sure shut him up. Hope that doesn't spoil my "pure as the driven snow" image, lol, lol, but poker brings out the evil in us.
 
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Job Well Done Stefan

I can remember someone loser saying in chat he was gonna "hunt me down, slit my throat and ***k my dead body" and my comeback was "NOT IF I FIND YOU FIRST YOU MF"
Hope that doesn't spoil my "pure as the driven snow" image, lol, lol, but poker brings out the evil in us.

Stefan you did what you had to do & played your game regardless of the insults. Blocking out ignorance is the best & hardest thing to do when you're doing well & you have as i call them "haters" in your face. Congrats on doing well & keeping your game in check.

As for Baby lol, i'll be sure not to mess w/ her @ all. I'm afraid of her now lol....her statements are just as BOLD as they look. GL on the tbls all.
 
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Agree with CMB, we've all been shortstacked one time or another in tourneys and regularly picked on by the chip leader bully. Of course its irritating, until you improve your play to the point that you get to be the bully more often than not, then ,lol, its fun.

People that let out their anger shouldn't bother you, whether they're in the tourney or on the rail. Just reply to the whining opponents that they clearly need to study and learn the game if they can't understand that being CL in a tourney is a position of advantage and bullying people comes with the territory.

To the people on the rail suggest them to " get a life"

P.S.: Dam CMB, you sounded like " La femme Nikita" there, lol.
 
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I had a SnG like that on Party one time. Man it was fun. I was being a table coach moron the whole time and one guy set out to trap me. I busted him in two hands when he slow played AA and raise until I hit a flush, and then i flopped a straight and he pushed all in on me.

He hung out with a few others while I won the thing, insulting me the whole time.

I made a bad move 3 handed and was sonn the short stack, but I out played everyone and got lucky once and won the whole thing.
 
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I had a SnG like that on Party one time. Man it was fun. I was being a table coach moron the whole time and one guy set out to trap me. I busted him in two hands when he slow played AA and raise until I hit a flush, and then i flopped a straight and he pushed all in on me.

He hung out with a few others while I won the thing, insulting me the whole time.

I made a bad move 3 handed and was sonn the short stack, but I out played everyone and got lucky once and won the whole thing.


lol yall got the wrong idea i was the chipleader a**hole bullying every1 hehe
 
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I love getting people upset (verbally, not abusive... just getting under their skin). It really impacts their play :)
Once a guy actually threatened to kill me, right before I stacked him :eek:)
 
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Poker is a mental game played by mental people. If the chat bugs you, turn it off. If not, use it to your advantage.
The other night it was late, I was tired. I set up a hand by many hands before, saying I was tired, and going to go to bed soon. It took about 6 hands until I got a pocket set of K's. I said, I'm going to bed. I went all in with my large chip stack. 6 people followed to try to vulture my stacks. I hit a K on the flop and won, taking out more than half the table.
The point is, use what you have. Its poker. Always keep your guard up. Find the weakness and try not to show yours and end up being on tilt.
 
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When a player is on til it means someone has found a weakness in them. A good player should exploit that weakness and make money of him. Nobody likes to see someone go broke in total honesty ( Unless it is Sheiky ) but when someone is on tilt they might as well put a sign on top of them saying ATM
 
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Except it was players on the rail harrassing him, so it doesn't matter if they're on tilt and it doesn't do any good to waste your engery and focus messing with them. It sounds like one of the players had all his friends come over just to flame him. You should be able to report that for the spam if nothing else. FullTilt makes it easy to block obsever chat, so you don't have to shut out people at your table.
 
thwizzofoz

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When a player is on til it means someone has found a weakness in them. A good player should exploit that weakness and make money of him. Nobody likes to see someone go broke in total honesty ( Unless it is Sheiky ) but when someone is on tilt they might as well put a sign on top of them saying ATM

That is true, but, there is more.

I found an article the other day that gave a real good explaination of "tilt" as it is used in poker.

Tilt is a poker term for a state of mental confusion or frustration in which a player knowingly adopts a sub-optimal, over-aggressive strategy.

Placing an opponent on tilt or dealing with being on tilt oneself is one of the most important aspects of poker. It is a relatively frequent occurrence, due to frustration, animosity against other players, or simple bad luck. Experienced players recommend learning to recognize that one is experiencing tilt and to avoid allowing it to influence one's play. However, putting one's opponents on tilt is a remarkably effective way to win at the poker table, albeit one that isn't going to win many friends.

BEING ON TILT

The most common way to wind up on tilt is to be the victim of a bad beat, or being defeated in a particularly public and humiliating fashion. For example:

1. Folding to a large bet only to have your opponent turn over a horrible hand (being shown a bluff).
2. Even worse: being bluffed by a small bet (a post oak bluff).
3. Having an opponent "suck out", or catch a miracle card late in the hand (an unlikely out-draw).
4. Having what you think is a dominating hand be bested by an even more powerful hand that you never saw coming.
All of these can upset the mental equilibrium considered essential for optimal poker judgement. Another common way to wind up on tilt is through basic annoyance at the behavior of the others at the poker table. Excessive rudeness (or lewdness), being heavily intoxicated at the table, and otherwise poor table etiquette are all common ways that other players can begin to wear on your nerves.

For the beginning player, the elimination of tilt is considered to be the most essential improvement that can be made in play (for instance in the strategic advice of Mike Caro and especially, Lou Krieger). Many advanced players (after logging thousands of table-hours) claim to have outgrown “tilt” and frustration, although other poker professionals admit it is still a “leak” in their game.

One commonly suggested way to fight tilt is simply to disregard the outcomes of particular pots, particularly those that are statistically uncommon. So-called "bad beats," when one puts a lot of chips in the pot with the best hand and still loses, deserve little thought at all; they are the product of variance, not bad strategy. This mindset calls for the player to understand poker as game of decisions and correct play is making the right bets over a long period of time.
Another method for avoiding tilt is to try lowering one's variance, even if that means winning fewer chips overall. Therefore, one may try to play passively and fold marginal hands, even though that may mean folding the best hand. This may mean that one also plays very tightly -- and looks for certain advantageous situations.

Once tilt begins, players are usually advised to leave the table and return only when emotions have subsided. This advice aims at keeping the upset person from letting negative emotions lead to bigger losses that can seriously hurt one's bankroll.

PUTTING OTHERS ON TILT

Any player with a decent amount of play-time under their belts can beat a table filled with bet-crazy “maniacs” who will go all-in with any two cards. However, winning at a poker table that has eight fifty year-old men who only bet or raise if they have two face cards and fold under the slightest amount of pressure is much more difficult. Putting a player on tilt infuriates them to the point where they will call or raise almost any bet made.

The act of putting someone on tilt may not pay off in the short run, but if some time is put into practicing it, a player can quickly become an expert at “tilting” other players (with or without bad manners). In theory, the long-run payoff of this tactic is a positive expectation, although it has been observed (e.g. by David Sklansky) that a more profitable strategy is likely to be superior table selection.

Some of the more common methods of putting a table on tilt include:
1. Playing junk hands that have only a slight chance of winning in the hope of sucking out on the turn or the river and delivering a bad beat (this can be an enjoyable occasional style which will make the table’s play “looser”, and has been ‘perfected’ by players such as Daniel Negreanu in low and middle-limit play.)
2. Victimizing certain individuals at the table, (which is often considered a more old-fashioned tactic, identified with 1970s “verbal” experts such as Amarillo Slim.)
3. Pretending to be drunk, i.e. hustling, excellently demonstrated by Paul Newman vs. Robert Shaw in The Sting (although his technique included cheating).
4. Constant chattering, making weird noises and motions whenever you win a hand, or other erratic behaviour is a “tilting” or “loosening” approach first discussed by Mike Caro.
5. Taking an incredibly long time to announce and show your hand at the showdown. (Such deliberate breaches of etiquette have the side effect of slowing play and risking barring, thereby limiting the earnings of the expert player. For this, and other social reasons, such tactics are mostly associated with the novice.)
All of the above have been recommended as methods of upsetting the other players at the table, with the intention of having them betting into your winning hands, and playing sub-optimally.

Cited on Wikipedia

 
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sometimes i just disable chat so that such insulting does not influence the way i am playing
 
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I like getting people upset that means they suck and can't handle people bullying them. People who start calling names make me laugh.
 
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A couple of years ago on pokerstars I was playing one of their 3.00 + rebuy sattelites for the Sunday I think it was just 500k then.

The cards were slamming me by mid tournament I had 1.5 million in chips the closest stack to me was maybe 150k. This was one of those rare and magical poker experiances which has only happened to me only twice, like Jamie Gold in last years WSOP nothing could go wrong, I was playing 10/3 off suit and hitting 10/10/3 flops.

I would just enter a pot and everyone would fold, it got so when I decided to play a hand I would bet the whole amount of the next largest stack at the table. The players knew that if they entered a hand with me it was going to be all-in or fold.

By the late stages of the tournament I had around 4 million in chips and the closest challenger was 900k. During those days and sometimes I still do it, I'll turn chat off so I have no distractions.

On this day near the end when I had 4 million 20 seats to eliminate and everyone left gets a ticket to Sundays game. I turned the chat on.

LOL I must have missed some really good banter, these guys were non-stop talking about me both good and bad. Some of them BEGGING me to slow down saying stuff like: "Theres only 20 players left he's a shoe in he should just stop... I had to fold pocket Q's.... this guy is a killer ... no mercy.... please, please buddy just stop!"

I was laughing my butt off, I had the chat off the whole time just until the end I probably missed some real gems.

I hope you guys get to experiance a game like that, I hope to experiance one like that again .... really rare to have a lead like that and can afford to lose to the largest stacked opponent an all-in just knowing that you'll get it back ... it's just a matter of time ... no threat just gnats to be swatted.

It's happend to me twice ... if only I could learn how to get ahead like that consistantly ... heheh
 
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I believe that certain players just think that the way they play is the "WAY" anyone who gambles or risky or improvizes is a fish or donk or worse.Even when they are winning. Nothing like some jacka&& telling you you made a bad call rightafter you cleaned them out.
 
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ya know i think the word "donkey" gets a little over used, not to say i dont use it though. this often happens to me also. sometimes i'll purposely play a hand like an idiot(small pot) just to make the table think they are dealin' with somethin' they're not, and i'll get criticized like crazy but that's cool, thats just what i want. i really think that kind of behavior is just bad for the game, but the only thing we can do is not promote is ourselves. its so tempting to talk trash back, like already said, its just better to turn off the chat!! later guys.
 
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I haven't used "Donkey" to describe a poker player other than myself. I have said that I played like a donkey, or I donked away a bunch of chips while on tilt.
But, I agree that it is an insult that doesn't need to be said a the tables. Especially if someone just kicked your donkey butt, by out donking you. ;)
 
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LoL. Im a big victim of the rail insults, especially in the MTT, and since I've changed up my game from tight-aggressive to loose aggressive.

[Im not saying this is the best way to play]

Early on in MTT, I like to play super loose and aggressive. I raise and reraise with mid-high suited connectors, any suited face/x, and suited A/x. hands as bad as Q10 suited going for a re-raise...My goal is to build my stack up quickly in the early rounds, then tighten up a bit and play "normally".

Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. If it does, I think Im at an advantage...

1. Im a bigger stack at the table. I can use the bigger stack to my advantage.
2. If i get under peoples' skin, I can get them to play weaker/dominated hands they shouldnt be playing against me.

So, I'll encounter a lot of bad mouthing for bad plays....and they are, but I just ignore it. turn off my chat or something. Then when I change tables, its all forgotten and I can play my game.

Unless, they follow me to the other table, then they really need to get a life.
 
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