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bw07507

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I think i might remember this guys name and make sure I play any other tournaments with him. One of the worst played hands ive seen in awhile

NEW HAND
Chicago2000 posts the small blind $10.00
bw07507 posts the big blind $20.00
DEALING POCKETS
Fuzzy_nuts, it's your turn. You have 10 seconds to act
Fuzzy_nuts, it's your turn. You have 5 seconds to act
Fuzzy_nuts folds
chrissyinga raises $20.00 to $40.00
Tayrook folds
flattop61048 calls $40.00
Daddy Fat Sac calls $40.00
lil budge calls $40.00
Big Shane3 calls $40.00
albiaboy calls $40.00
Chicago2000 calls $30.00
bw07507 calls $20.00
DEALING FLOP (Tc,Ks,Kd)
Chicago2000 checks
bw07507 checks
chrissyinga checks
flattop61048 checks
Daddy Fat Sac checks
lil budge checks
Big Shane3 checks
albiaboy checks
DEALING TURN (6d)
Chicago2000 bets $200.00
bw07507 folds
chrissyinga calls $200.00
flattop61048 raises $200.00 to $400.00
Daddy Fat Sac folds
lil budge folds
Big Shane3 folds
albiaboy folds
Chicago2000 calls $200.00
chrissyinga goes all in $400.00
flattop61048 goes all in $1,060.00
Chicago2000 folds
$860.00 is not called, return back to flattop61048
chrissyinga shows Two Pair, Kings and Queens
flattop61048 shows Three of a Kind, Kings
DEALING RIVER (5h)
chrissyinga shows Two Pair, Kings and Queens
flattop61048 shows Three of a Kind, Kings
 
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Pretty poor. Is this play money? If not, I'm taking out a loan and moving up to $10/$20.
 
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There are times, when I know I want all my chips in the middle, and I also know that if I give it a standard raise opp's will fold, when the min raise is the most perfect bet;
1 It announces to the table that I am one of those dreaded dumb minraisers, which makes them think I am a dork....great, exactly what I wanted.
2 It seldom weeds out anyone with a decent hand. Makes it perfect when I've flopped a set, or better, turned one. This is especially useful shortly after sitting at a new table.

As much as I read around here about the evils of minraising, I find that at times it is the perfect tool. NOT ALL THE TIME OR AS A REGULAR OR STANDARD PROCEDURE. In this case, the minraise probably kept the caller in an extra round, and got that extra money. A standard raise likely would have caused that caller to fold, she did after all fold to the all in bet.

To bad rap the minraise so easily to me is like a carpenter throwing out his hammer cause he is working with screws today. It is a tool. Learn to use it.
 
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alan1983

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I think OP was refering to the preflop minraise with queens by chrissyinga and not the river minraise by flat
 
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Good point. Which minraise? My post above was geared toward the turn minraise, which had the added benefit of committing Chrissyinga.

The QQ UTG minraise by Chrissyinga was a bad choice, that's a push or call but not a place where a minraise will do anything good. And she paid the price.
 
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