Thewebmaster
Freeroll #2 Winner
Silver Level
Low Pockets ??
Hi all,
I certainly wouldn't go all-in on low pocket pairs, in my experience there is nearly always at least one if not more that will call and with very low pockets I wouldn't feel the odds would be in my favour. Having said that on pocket 2's 3's or 4's I will call even quite a large bet to see the flop, if I don't hit anything I cut my losses to play another hand.
I've had pocket A's lose about 50% of the time for me and i've probably won more times on low pocket pairs. It's hard to follow any advice when what works for one person might not work for another and every game is different, i've probably played pocket pairs differently every time i've got them. Sometimes you just get a feeling and go for it and it works, other times you might slow play low pockets and even hit 4 of a kind and decide to milk it to the river hoping that a couple get a hand worth calling your all-in final bet.
Not much in the way of advice from me but I enjoy reading the posts and seeing how others play some of their hands, bye for now,
Tony ( The Webmaster )
Hi all,
I certainly wouldn't go all-in on low pocket pairs, in my experience there is nearly always at least one if not more that will call and with very low pockets I wouldn't feel the odds would be in my favour. Having said that on pocket 2's 3's or 4's I will call even quite a large bet to see the flop, if I don't hit anything I cut my losses to play another hand.
I've had pocket A's lose about 50% of the time for me and i've probably won more times on low pocket pairs. It's hard to follow any advice when what works for one person might not work for another and every game is different, i've probably played pocket pairs differently every time i've got them. Sometimes you just get a feeling and go for it and it works, other times you might slow play low pockets and even hit 4 of a kind and decide to milk it to the river hoping that a couple get a hand worth calling your all-in final bet.
Not much in the way of advice from me but I enjoy reading the posts and seeing how others play some of their hands, bye for now,
Tony ( The Webmaster )
lonemessiah
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Don't go with the 50/50 rule, it is only roughly 50/50 they will get a higher pair than you pocket pair, if they have to 'over' cards, please remember straights are also more likely if you have 2 different cards, flushes will be more likely if they have suited cards, also if 4 of a suit comes out, it is more likely that they will have a higher suited card.
Not forgetting that if 2 pairs come out, chances are that you are suddenly left with the lowest kicker. Low pocket pairs rarely have a 50/50 chance of winning any sort of hand that would call a big raise, so although a raise can be beneficial, i would be wary of going all in, or even making a large raise, if that 3 of a kind doesn't turn up (and chances are that a vast majority of the time it won't) then bail those cards cards if it looks like anyone else has hit a higher pair.
Never hold on for the turn or river to give you 3 of a kind, it just won't happen nearly often enough to work
Not forgetting that if 2 pairs come out, chances are that you are suddenly left with the lowest kicker. Low pocket pairs rarely have a 50/50 chance of winning any sort of hand that would call a big raise, so although a raise can be beneficial, i would be wary of going all in, or even making a large raise, if that 3 of a kind doesn't turn up (and chances are that a vast majority of the time it won't) then bail those cards cards if it looks like anyone else has hit a higher pair.
Never hold on for the turn or river to give you 3 of a kind, it just won't happen nearly often enough to work
C
charterboss
Enthusiast
Silver Level
I only play them if the amount to call is low and then only after if they hit on the flop -- i think its only been around 10% of the time that when i folded them prior to flop they would have been the winning hand and much much higher percentage that if i play them i lose....this all changes when you get down to 3 or 4 players then i play them more often and harder
D
Donovan
Rising Star
Bronze Level
Ok, this is my theory to playing low pocket pairs, say 7's or less. I will likely call one raise in middle possition or even put in the first raise in late position to try to win the pot right there. As long as I can see a flop with these cards cheap I love them. Especially when dealing with very low pairs like 2's or 3's, if you do hit a set it will be very hard to detect, especially when you put in a raise preflop. Therefore when the flop comes up A J 2 your likely to break somone. More often than not if there is one raise in and it seems likely you not be raised it's good to take a flop with small pockets, my strategy is to play them much like Axs or suited connectors but just a little more aggressively. These are hands that favor alot of players in the hand and not alot of aggressive raising. I dislike the bet hard pre flop and again bet hard post flop strategy a great deal because your really stripping the power from your cards and turning them into 2 7 off suit. Why play them that way when they really do have some power.
S
SeiferFF8
Rising Star
Bronze Level
At a full table at any position, i limp in with low pockets and hope for the miracle set.
If it's too expensive to see the flop, then it's an easy fold just like a flop with overcards.
I never chase a set after the flop because the pot odds are against you and your potential set could be someone else's straight or flush
I definately overbet when I do hit a set to make drawers pay to try and crack me.
If it's too expensive to see the flop, then it's an easy fold just like a flop with overcards.
I never chase a set after the flop because the pot odds are against you and your potential set could be someone else's straight or flush
I definately overbet when I do hit a set to make drawers pay to try and crack me.
C
capax
Rising Star
Bronze Level
There is definate logic in playing low pocket pairs in both table and tournament play. But I would say the biggest factor in whether or not to play them is in what position you are. The earlier you are the less likely i owuld be to play a low pocket pair. Considering that thare are 50+ starting hands that are better than pocket 4's you are hoping for the 1 in 5 chance of getting a set on the flop. If you don't get it your best bet is to find the quickest out.