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Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?
 
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Do whatever it takes to manage tilt.

If you leave after a badbeat due to tilt, it's fine. I've done it many times.

As you get better at managing tilt you will have to leave less and less. It's a process.

Anything is better than playing on tilt, even not playing.
 
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If that bad beat tilts me for some reason (unlikely) , then yes I'd leave and try to have fun in some other ways . But if it doesnt , then probably no . I'd stay and play game , and use info I learned on that table , to make as much $$$ as I can ;)

Hope it helps
 
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Leaving after a bad beat

Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?

Hi there,

I play cash and tourneys live and online and have done so for many years, in terms of cash games and bad beats - leaving a table is more often a good move and i can certainly relate to that.
Bad beats can stick in your mind and affect your play as you progress and its not always advisable to try and play your way out of that - regroup, have a break and return is my advice.

If you have returned to play immediately after a bad beat and find you have managed to pick up - again it never hurts to take a break and do some self care ( grab something to eat/drink, read/socialise with casino staff and generally enjoy the experience more - i have found this approach has really benefited my play in the past.
 
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Thanks for that, makes me feel a bit better about my decision.

I didn’t feel like I was annoyed with the beat or anything like that, I genuinely put it down to the other guy played a good hand well and drew me out. It happens and nothing you can do about it in some cases.

Still, knowing other people think stepping away is probably a good call makes me feel a bit better about it
 
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Yes leave. Notice that when luck is against you, you need to do something to change it.

The common thought seems to be keep going against the luckbox who cleaned you out until his luck runs out. But in reality most times you're already down big when that happens. And even though the guy is dumb, he needs to have some cards to keep calling you down.

Today against the same guy:

I had AKsuited frm SB, he limped with 55. I raised it up to 4.5BB, he called. I flopped top pair AND flush draw. Bet big. He called and turned a goddam 5. I bet smaller on turn due to a possible straight completing. He min raised me. I called. The river is a brick. I checked river and he checked despite having a set and very obviously the best hand...

Like if this dude didn't hit his 2 outter, pretty sure he would have folded to my turn bet. It's not that easy to take someone's stack. When luck's against you, you cannot get that back. Just try to change luck by logging off or just quitting until the next day.

I should have left at that point cuz I knew the seat I had was sith. But I was like maybe I can Then same situation I had AQ suited on SB again. He limped I raised again. I cbet he called. I checked and he checked the next two streets. He rivers a 5 (A5).

I got up and left at that point.

Then at the next table. QQ threebet preflop. Dude calls with ace rags and flops his ace. I cbet on flop and it was checked down thereafter.

I quit after that. Not gonna be my day. Cut my losses.
 
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Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?


Thank you for posting

Q3 2 pair so board was QT3? How did you have Q3 vs TT? Was it QQ on T33?

Either situation above why are you on tilt vs V having the best hand in spots like this?
If you can answer this question well you can avoid tilt and continue to play well.

"The Mental game of poker" is a book by Jared Tendler it would be worth every dollar for you to buy and read.

Hope this helps
:):)
 
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Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?


I might tilt after that hand. So I might leave also.

But mostly I would leave a table that I am not having success at. All kinds of villain hands - bad timing on my part, etc. etc.

Do I need to prove myself? No, no room for ego. I just leave and find a table that better suits my style.
 
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Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?

As I understand it, the flop was QT3, and Hero had Q3 for top and bottom pair, but unfortunately someone else had TT for middle set. First of all I hope, it was a limped pot, and that Hero got a free play or a cheap complete from the blinds, because otherwise its a pretty substantial mistake to play Q3.

The action then got checked on the flop and turn, meaning Hero and Villain were both trying to slowplay their big hands. But then all hell broke loose on the river, and Hero ended up losing a big pot. Now first of all slowplaying is a pretty substantial mistake, even though this time Hero was at the bad end of a cooler, so it could actually have saved him money in the exact situation.

But Hero did not know, his opponent had TT until showdown, and if this was indeed a limped pot, then I would simply lead out for value on the flop and bet again on the turn if called. Plenty of worse hands can continue on this board, and we cant rely on someone else to build the pot for us, when we have a very strong hand, especially not in a limped pot.

On the river however it sounds like a ton of money went in, and this might also be a mistake. The river is not the time, we can make up for lost value after misplaying the earlier streets. The flopped top and bottom pair is simply not strong enough, because if the river action gets to heavy, we are pretty much always going to be against a better hand like a set, a straight, a flush or maybe just a better two pair.

So most likely all 3 streets were misplayed by Hero, and the feeling of getting "outplayed" is probably spot on. And when we lose a big pot after playing poorly, that is definitely a good time to call it quits rather than staying and perhaps continue to make more mistakes in future hands. Instead its time to do some off the table study and review that hand and perhaps some other hands as well, so that we dont repeat the same mistakes next time.
 
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Don't let one hand determine you session. It happens. It's poker. Sometimes you get poked.
 
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In cash games, bad beat always comes after a while, otherwise poker would not be poker, I always keep this in mind and do not risk the stack often.
 
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for me personally i always leave after a bad beat cause if luck isn't with you , you just have to leave
 
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Quitting may be a good strategy, as it psychologically affects our game. Try to relax with something else and forget about it, because soon this feat will pass and you'll be ready for something else. Unfortunately this is part of the process. I usually listen to good music and smoke my cigarette, but I don't recommend such a habit.
 
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Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?


You should not be upset if you misplayed a hand. You should not be playing Q3 anyway...

You were behind the whole way.

If you got screwed by a one outter or something on the river, then you have the right to be angry. And if you are angry, you should leave.

If you get bad beat and you feel ok, then you keep playing. If you play well you will win back most times. But if the bad beat puts you on tilt, then you should leave.

I had this fool get lucky on me on back-to-back confrontations. He beat my AK with A8 and QQ with 23. Dude had an allergy to the fold button but he had quadrupled up in my 30 mins at the table. But I actually wasn't tilted and eventually I won back more than my original buy in. This dude ran away, but I got the coins back from others.

Other times, I start to feel tilt and I know my play goes sideways. I usually leave once I catch myself playing emotionally.
 
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bad beat repercussions

So, BB debathcery happens all the time… shame on the poker sites that encourage this situation. Get hit by a bus! Lol ;)
 
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Hey,

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on leaving a cash game after a bad beat?

Basically, I had managed to increase my starting stack quite a bit, but ended up losing quarter of it on one hand (was out played by someone who had TTT on the flop against my two pair Q3’s, but limped through the flop and turn).

Either way, I was still up on my starting stack and I left the table. Did I maybe jump the gun on leaving?


Hey Dan,

This is a great question, and as someone who has invested years on the Mental Game of Poker I hope I can offer some insight on this topic.

As you go through your poker career and evolve as a player being able to manage your emotions and control your tilt is an essential skill to have. But... nobody says you have to be a master of this right away.

In the early days protecting your bankroll and getting in quality poker 'reps' is of the utmost important too. And when things happen that could really take you off your game, then stepping away can be totally fine.

The key is watching your emotional state and asking 'do i still have things under control, or am I feeling off and likely to start playing poorly'. If it's the later, then step away, and figure out what helps you calm down (self talk, breathwork, shifting perspective help me a lot in this regard). Practice this when you make good quits.

The more you practice it the more easily you'll be able to reset in the moment and not have to make the 'quits' you made before. But it's a process of building up to it as you become a mentally stronger player.

So yes, quitting is fine, you don't want to undo all your hard work that you put in with quality play. And you don't need to rush to be a poker monk / mental master.

If you want more help on this subject here is a playlist I think you'll find very valuable: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrNnyWekagOWtgX5zf2f0zFY3OxMUD4X
Hope it helps and good luck on the tables my friend!
 
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it's better to take a break after a big loss then to keep going even if it's just 10min break you might say "i'm not tilted" but it stays with you if you keep playing and think oh im gonna get him back etc etc, better to leave for a few minutes and then decide if you wanna keep playing or just play tomorrow..

better take a loss once that day then to take 2 losses in a row
 
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I also try to recognize the signs before it affects my game. It's not always easy, but if you can do it at least partially, it helps a lot. I haven't found an all-time good solution for coming down, but I've always needed at least half an hour's distance. Good luck!
 
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Great decision to get out of the game. You need to calm your emotions, otherwise you will start to enter with the wrong hands on preflop. You will begin to answer without thinking (purely mechanically) And as a result, an even greater loss.
 
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A very good decision I would do the same. Otherwise, you might give in to emotions and lose even more.
 
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i try to not let the tilt get me in the way i play , so for me i wont leave after a bad beat but i would take a glass of water and swallow it
 
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If you tilt after a bad beat, it makes sense to take a break or leave the table.
 
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Sometimes you just need to walk away for a bit and then come back later
 
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Leaving is a good solution Great decision to get out of the game
 
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How is that a bad beat? You played two lousy cards. The only excuse for playing Q3 is if you were on BB and he somehow limped with TT.

You were beat all the way. If you get upset by a hand like this you are not gonna win at poker.

If you lose to true suckouts on the river (like get in all in set vs. ace high and no draws and he gets a runner runner straight) then you can get upset.

And it's fine to leave a table at anytime if you feel mentally you need to reset.

Avoid tilt at all times.

It's easy to assume that if some fish sucks out then you will get him "the next time" so you stay. But in my experience most times it doesn't work that way. When a fish is in god mode you cannot beat him. Luck is a big factor. If you just aren't lucky in that seat. Leave and reset.
 
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