Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but often.


Any advice? Thankyou!!!

Originally Posted by vax1op369

Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but "often".

Any advice? Thankyou!!!

I try to play them infrequently and only when I can get into the hand fairly cheaply. If I get one or more callers, I'm almost always behind, which means I'm going to have to continue the bluff in order to maybe fold out villain(s). That can get expensive. I will try to steal with them though.

I'm curious how you've been doing playing them often? Just "breaking even" doesn't sound like that strategy is working as well as you would like?

With connectors I play often, and in the upper and lower. Just need to be able to throw them away, if not hit. With a successful hit, such hands often bring good profits.

Play according to the scheme depending on who went out and at what stage. If you consider that you mainly play in pairs and high cards, with a successful table structure for your cards, you can remove a good bank.

It has me feared at the table. You become table captain very quickly. It's cool when I have a monster they don't know. I need to do it less often. More I think about it. It is affecting my profitability.

Not as often as the professionals because i see so many players burn with it. I personally only shove 10's and higher

I agree that professionals can often afford to play with the cards below 10 . But I don't like to risk to play the same way higher than 10

Originally Posted by vax1op369

Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but often.


Any advice? Thankyou!!!

I play depending on the bets, never when there is a reraise, or when there is an all in unless it is a Q K and I still think so

If blinds are low relative to my stack and there are no raised pre-flop I'll almost always play them and at least see a flop.If they're crap cards like 34 or 23 then I'll probably fold if anyone raises more than the standard big blind, or my stack is less than say 15-20 big blinds.

Play them alot on Stars,but never on Party.

It all depends on the situation and the number of opponents.

Depends of it how many players are in hand and how many cheep is call .

Originally Posted by terryk

Play them alot on Stars,but never on Partty.

Iiii think I know what you are talkin about mate

Lol,,,i just fold em.But connected,sometimes,,,,suited,useless.

Originally Posted by vax1op369

Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but often.


Any advice? Thankyou!!!

Suited connectors, for me, are great in position, min raise hands. Think bout what U do when flop comes flush/straight draws and you miss. These SCs are very profitable when hit and a good chance to steal with position. Also good to rep. A wide range.

GL
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Originally Posted by vax1op369

Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but often.


Any advice? Thankyou!!!

I like to use suited connectors in multi pot from late position. And I often push it to steel with short stacks!
In fact connectors have good win condition!

if I have money day and night I can play

Too broad a question....

HUHypers though.... 3betting suited connectors a ton to increase steals against a wide opener 80-100% So if you see a guy min raise you with J-4 10-6, you need to adopt this style unless you see villain adapting. (Also dont be scared to fold if you get caught in a 4bt pot with this type of weak 3betting hand.) There will be a point in time when the blinds increase to such a point where 3-bet jamming is more profitable than 3betting small. Also! Be sure to look at how much equity your hand has against certain ranges, as calling a 4bt with one of those slightly weaker hands, may still have good equity for the amount being asked to call against looser 4betting ranges.

9-Man. If you have more than 30BB you can consider raises from various positions. I do this, however I aim to do it as infrequently as possible in attempt to merge this crap with my perceived premium range. It helps you know where you are at, as people shouldnt be looking you up too often with crap. 30BB or less, i would be looking to squeeze these types of hands, also reraising from the button vs identified thief, opening the pot from CO with the top end of these hands. Look to Jam with 10BB or less.

I play them in late position, calling the tight players open raise who can allow me to maneuver when I might not hit. I like to open raise with them also (not that often) to mix it up. The experience I had with suited connectors in cash games is that it gets very big rewards to hit with those hands

Originally Posted by vax1op369

Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but often.


Any advice? Thankyou!!!

try to go with them in multi-way, I think that's a plus always the solution.

ALMOST ALWAYS see the flop with these cards, if the opponent is not only a very AGRESSIRUYUT.

with position any hand can be played, not only suited conectors; i guess the idea is that you hit the flop multiple times than with overpairs or there are only hands good to balance the good broadway cards.

Game of poker ,game of luck. I prefer playing various "suited" connectors quite often. Because from my personal experience there is a greater chance to win more often. Since it's a game of luck and skills mixed.

will play QJ or

KQ s

uited, anything smaller usually just gets you into trouble. and only these depending on the table bets. fold to pre-flop all-ins of course.

I ussually play them in late position early in the tournament.

I only play these in late position if I can get in cheap. Can get in too much trouble with these hands and I'm not experienced enough to make all the right decisions post flop. I mean, even if I hit a flush with low cards what are the chances I'm beat by a higher flush?Plus these hands miss the flop like 85-90 % of the time.

Remember also to see that villain, at least sometimes, is capable paying you large if you hit with worse, either by being agressive or calling.

heard some really smart people talk about this, I'll boil it down to 2 main ideas:

first: you will need to steal to make these profitable, which means position! which should be your main focus if you want to make money anyway, do a scan on what you are winning with them by position, bet you the button or one off is your only profit over the long haul.


secondly: you cant play them versus people you dont know, baby flushes are very hard to play if you dont know your opponents, nits will have higher flush very often.


last thought, as you get up to J-10, you have the possibility of hitting the flop only to be facing AJ or A-10, becareful.

Depends on position and the blinds...
But if its cash Ill raise them on the cutoff most times... button and SB definitely.

I play them preferably with multiple callers for better pot odds and only when it is 5% or less of the effective stack size. It's a spec hand that could win a big pot if you hit but most likely I'll throw it away when I don't hit anything.

usually not, maybe when everyone limps

Originally Posted by terryk

Lol,,,i just fold em.But connected,sometimes,,,,suited,useless.

Connectors being suited can put their value up considerably.


How often do I play them... "it depends"


ie.
If I'm sitting on a passive cash table where effective stacks are 100bb's deep, I'm playing them a lot!

Sometimes, I will call with suited connectors if my stack is large enough, but, never on a re-raise

Definitely depends on stack size and stage of tournament. In late position suited connectors can be terrific 3bet bluff hands with lots of equity.

I play them often, because there better then AA with only two outs being the number, or u getting out drawed

Originally Posted by Brian11580

I play them often, because there better then AA with only two outs being the number, or u getting out drawed

Um ok lets play. You can have the suited connectors and I'll take the inferior AA.

I will play them on the cheap but you have to know when to let them go.

Originally Posted by vax1op369

Recently made the switch from tournaments to cash. Have made some greats plays and had some great losses. So far after 30k hands I'm breaking even playing .10/.25 cash.

How often are you playing 65 7/8 9/10 J/10 8/10 J/9? I have been 3 betting oppenents with these hands early and late position preflop to keep them guessing. Not all the time but often.


Any advice? Thankyou!!!

Playing them multi-way and in position is usually a recipe for success especially if the MP flats an UTG or UTG+1 raise. In my opinion you are looking to make money off of people overvauling AA or KK on wet boards. 87s 109s and J10s are great hands for this as your straights can connect with their broadway two pairs and TPTK's

It is important to understand the power of off-suit and suited connectors in poker. The latter are more priority, because can catch not only straight, but also a flush. Of unsuited connectors, the J10's hand is the strongest, because it can build four variants of the straight + the cards themselves are high enough that in some situations the captured pairs can be considered strong combinations.

1. The chance to get a different pre-flop connector is 15.7%
2. The suited preflop connector is 3.92%
3. Flush draw on the flop - 11%
4. Two-way straight draw on the flop - 9.3%
5. Flush on the flop - 0.84%
6. Straight flop - 1.3%

Play them alot whenever i can

I do it many times especially if my stad is quite large,

Always play suited connectors if no big raise the sick puppy in me has knocked out more AA and KK hands with suited connectors than any other hand remember 56 suited that hits flop can be a lot stronger than AA that misses the flop gud luck

I folded 3-4 clubs earlier pre-flop from the button, and watched in horror as flop came A-2-5 clubs. The pot got pretty healthy as one of those still in it ended up with a flush.. I would've cleaned up with a rare straight flush :/

Then this evening I had 8-9 (again clubs) on the button, thought about what happened earlier but decided not to get sucked in to "that old nonsense", folded them, and flopped 8-9-9.
It was another big pot that I would've taken down with a house.



That kind of thing happens to me all the time on PokerStars. It's making me feel like suited connectors are definitely worth at least seeing a flop with, provided you can do so fairly cheaply.

We should play a little less these types of cards, taking into account that having suited connectors only increases in 2-3% the chances of winning.

The effectiveness of suited connectors increase as more opponents are in the pot. I wont usually go heads up with suited connectors. I like to play them whenever more people are in the pot.

Tournaments have reasonably well defined stages that change the feel of the game. Early stages tends to be 15-20 vpip nit fests, opening up as the blinds scale. Cash games don't have the same progression. Your range will need to shift to exploit the table. If you're in a typical cash game (~100 bb deep), and the average vpip is under 25, suited connectors and suited one offs can be a great way to pad your range out and start exploiting that excessive tightness. Like anything else, you have to be able to get away from the hand and adjust as your villains play back at you.

That being said, I prefer suited one offs to suited connectors. They tend to be better disguised when they hit hard, and two pair doesn't automatically open up the straight.

I love the suited connectors, 8/9, 9/10. They are great for seeing flops and slaying big pocket pairs.

Suited connectors is my weakness, I keep playing it, but unfortunately lost more than won

Yes - absolutely necessary to have more players in the hand.


Be careful for a bigger flush getting there if your connectors are low enough. Ex. 56h gets beat by KJh


If I am getting pot odds I will speculate with suited connectors as often as possible.


But - even with a strong draw - I could be shipping in a lot of chips for nothing.

I play only such suited connectors 10 9 - 5 4. I think this is the most optimal range. I play them only in the late position, in other positions I do the pass. If the stack allows, I can call in the middle position, or raise depending on who is sitting after me. I think that suited connectors are not a bad card, but if you do not hit the flop, then bluffing on such a card is useless because your kicker can be lower.