How to deal with aggression in cash games

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There's books on this single question. But a quick answer to a quick question, raise or fold depending on your position.
 
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Return aggression and use position. Oh, and eat oreo's while playing of course..
 
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But don't hold them up to your ear and crack them open when you flop the nuts or Mike Mcdermott will beat you for about 60k and then ask you are feeling satisfied?
 
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Wait wait and wait.

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Wait wait and wait.

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I don't agree with this. IF the villain is absurdly aggressive then yes we wait for nut hands and stack him. However, if he's just aggro then we should turn up our aggressiveness.. In position like John said.
 
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Post a couple of examples with villains stats. Can't play with scared money, had a player donk me on AJ8 rainbow, pots it and over shoves 2x pot on turn with a4. I called down with aq, feel out the table and take notes regardless of showdown or not.
 
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Deal with it by having the nuts, every. single. time.
 
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Like all things poker, it depends. If the agro guy is sitting on your left, the only thing to do is leave. If he is on your right, then you wait for good starting and flopping hands. I would play passively preflop and on the flop if he is betting. On the turn I switch and go agro 3-betting decent hands and good draws.

It is exploitable, but most aro players won't notice or have the ability to take advantage.
 
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I prefer him on my left, then I get to see how the table respondz...juz keep limpin :)
 
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Like all things poker, it depends. If the agro guy is sitting on your left, the only thing to do is leave. If he is on your right, then you wait for good starting and flopping hands. I would play passively preflop and on the flop if he is betting. On the turn I switch and go agro 3-betting decent hands and good draws.

It is exploitable, but most agro players won't notice or have the ability to take advantage.

Depends what stakes, you will no doubt find that 'agro players' make up a big majority of the best players in the world...

You prefer an aggro guy on your left? You aren't phil Ivey... Wise up

Lol, this. Unless the guy is talking like, 7 places to your left xD
 
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Actually it depends how aggressive someone is. It never happens in online poker but in my friends there are 2 guys who make 18 BB open raise and have a very wide all in call range. Needless to say that these 2 players have lost a ton of money in our home games.

People call their raise loosely so let's say I am sitting on their right. I limp with a premium hand, he raises and gets 2 callers. Now when the action gets around to me its just a dream scenario.

What do I do with AQ if I am sitting on his left? Do I shove hoping nobody else has a monster? If I am sitting on the right and someone else shoves before me then it becomes an easy fold.

Then there are agro players who are easily trapped when they are IP with their relentless barrelling.

So online I wouldn't want to sit on the right of an agro but in a full ring live game there is a certain benefit to it.

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Actually it depends how aggressive someone is. It never happens in online poker but in my friends there are 2 guys who make 18 BB open raise and have a very wide all in call range. Needless to say that these 2 players have lost a ton of money in our home games.

People call their raise loosely so let's say I am sitting on their right. I limp with a premium hand, he raises and gets 2 callers. Now when the action gets around to me its just a dream scenario.

What do I do with AQ if I am sitting on his left? Do I shove hoping nobody else has a monster? If I am sitting on the right and someone else shoves before me then it becomes an easy fold.

Then there are agro players who are easily trapped when they are IP with their relentless barrelling.

So online I wouldn't want to sit on the right of an agro but in a full ring live game there is a certain benefit to it.

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I think youre looking at that from a skewed perspective, maybe against those two super spewy guys it might have some benefit play some cards. But what happens when you have 89s and want to see a flop, you call and he spews 10bb. How many calls can you make and whiff before you cant keep calling his huge raises with speculative hands, and youre losing chips rapido.
 
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I think youre looking at that from a skewed perspective, maybe against those two super spewy guys it might have some benefit play some cards. But what happens when you have 89s and want to see a flop, you call and he spews 10bb. How many calls can you make and whiff before you cant keep calling his huge raises with speculative hands, and youre losing chips rapido.

I don't call their pre raises because they never give the right odds even with pairs unless we are sitting really deep. Its all in or fold decision with such ridiculous raises.

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But at the end of the day I would still not prefer playing OOP against such players because if I limp in with a big hand and they don't raise then that sucks. If I am IP and they limp then I know I have to force the issue here.

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I don't call their pre raises because they never give the right odds even with pairs unless we are sitting really deep. Its all in or fold decision with such ridiculous raises.

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Thats what i meant, so everytime you limp/raise with a speculative hand, youre getting raised, and probably folding. So you lose chips there.

Or you play less hands, and a tighter range, in which case if he has any brains he just wont play against you, and you lose value.


Stand up and find another table xD
 
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Just fold all non premiums OOP and punish him when you have position on him since you know he has air most of the time. Whatever you do, don't just lay down and let him run you over. Also don't just camp for the nuts against this player type unless they are just a HUGE fish because most aggro players are aware and can make folds when the guy nitting it up suddenly wants to play for stacks.
 
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Thats what i meant, so everytime you limp/raise with a speculative hand, youre getting raised, and probably folding. So you lose chips there.

Or you play less hands, and a tighter range, in which case if he has any brains he just wont play against you, and you lose value.


Stand up and find another table xD

He has no poker brains. He genuinely believes that AJs is better than AKo. He even called me lucky when my AKo beat his AJs in a pre flop all in. 😂

Its shocking how much value some people put on suited hands.

And yes losing 1 BB will be a pretty frequent scenario if sitting on his right.

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Either return fire and apply greater aggression, or buckle down and wait for a big hand to get paid on...Or you could always leave : ) just kidding.
 
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Wait wait and wait.

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Unfortunetely, I have to agree with this statement if we are talking about online poker. I have witnessed to many players how they are pushing "all in" in every single round and winning against hands like AA more than once in the roll. :rolleyes:
 
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He is talking about aggression, not a maniac open shoving every hand preflop. If it is an aggressive 60/40 then yeah wait because he is probably terrible. If it is an aggressive 21/16 they are not going to pay off the nit when he suddenly wakes up. Also with that said you could use that to your advantage to bluff him once in awhile. With your now nitty image and the fact that they have a lot of bluffs in their range makes it a prime spot to rebluff. It sounds like OP should clarify on what type of player the aggression is coming from.
 
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see how they to to action

or just wait for a hand play tight
 
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