Flop 2 pairs in coordinated board facing 3 bet

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Hi,

I just had this situation that need your advice:

6-max, 5 players, 10NL
Hero in BTN holding KTo

Stack size ~100bb all players. There is no read on villains as I just started the session.

MP2 Calls 1 bb, CO Calls 1 bb, Hero Raises 4 bb, 2 folds,MP2 Calls 3 bb, CO Calls 3 bb

Q1: by raising here I intended to steal the pot, or if they call I still can play post-flop in position. However there were already 2 pp limp, and raising with KTo is loose so that I'm not sure whether raising or calling is better.

FLOP: K J T rainbow
3 players, 12.9 bb

MP2 Checks, CO Checks, Hero Bets 9.4 bb, 1 folds, CO Raises 41.7 bb, Hero Raises 96 bb and is all in, CO call.

When CO raises me to 41.7 bb, I think that I have 2 options: folding or raising all in here, I think calling is not an option with this raise size.

In my thinking CO might have AQ Q9 or set that beat me. However he might 3 bet with AK -TPTK, KQ- Top pair with open-ended draw , QJ - middle pair with open ended draw etc which I am ahead. So that I decide to raise all in.

Showdown he has Q9.

Q2: is it correct to raising all in here? I thought even if he had AQ Q9 I still have 4 outs to full house. But not sure if the play is correct.

Appreciate your advice.
 
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Difficult spot and I probably would have done the same thing. With no information it's hard to get an idea of what their limp-call range is in that position, but I would not have considered a set, or AQ or AK to be very likely. It seems like the most likely hands for that kind of play would be Q9, KJ, or JT, maybe KQ or QJ sometimes. Against that range you're a bit behind, but even still it seems like it might be a equitable shove regardless.
 
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it hard when you just start end you dont know nothing about CO player but ugly board ...some time i will go all in.. most of the time i will fold
 
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Hi,

I just had this situation that need your advice:

6-max, 5 players, 10NL
Hero in BTN holding KTo

Stack size ~100bb all players. There is no read on villains as I just started the session.

MP2 Calls 1 bb, CO Calls 1 bb, Hero Raises 4 bb, 2 folds,MP2 Calls 3 bb, CO Calls 3 bb

Q1: by raising here I intended to steal the pot, or if they call I still can play post-flop in position. However there were already 2 pp limp, and raising with KTo is loose so that I'm not sure whether raising or calling is better.

FLOP: K J T rainbow
3 players, 12.9 bb

MP2 Checks, CO Checks, Hero Bets 9.4 bb, 1 folds, CO Raises 41.7 bb, Hero Raises 96 bb and is all in, CO call.

When CO raises me to 41.7 bb, I think that I have 2 options: folding or raising all in here, I think calling is not an option with this raise size.

In my thinking CO might have AQ Q9 or set that beat me. However he might 3 bet with AK -TPTK, KQ- Top pair with open-ended draw , QJ - middle pair with open ended draw etc which I am ahead. So that I decide to raise all in.

Showdown he has Q9.

Q2: is it correct to raising all in here? I thought even if he had AQ Q9 I still have 4 outs to full house. But not sure if the play is correct.

Appreciate your advice.


So Question 1, i think you played correctly and read well the situation, with 2 limpers is more than okay to try to steal the pot. And the size of your raise was perfect, no compromising a lot of your stack but enough to make one limper give up.

Question 2, first of all i think your first bet too much aggressive with such a dangerous flop, ok that you had 2 pairs, but it's pretty clear that he had a strong hand and the flop was connected good cards. So i didn't like the size your first bet, i think you could control the pot size better like betting like 50% of the pot. But then he re-raised, i agree with you it's a all-in or fold situation, considering what i said previously i would fold, but again you had no information against them and he could be bluffing therefore i can't blame your choice.
 
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So Question 1, i think you played correctly and read well the situation, with 2 limpers is more than okay to try to steal the pot. And the size of your raise was perfect, no compromising a lot of your stack but enough to make one limper give up.

Question 2, first of all i think your first bet too much aggressive with such a dangerous flop, ok that you had 2 pairs, but it's pretty clear that he had a strong hand and the flop was connected good cards. So i didn't like the size your first bet, i think you could control the pot size better like betting like 50% of the pot. But then he re-raised, i agree with you it's a all-in or fold situation, considering what i said previously i would fold, but again you had no information against them and he could be bluffing therefore i can't blame your choice.


Thanks for your reply. I agree that if I bet smaller it might not go to the fold or all-in situation.
 
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