Fate & Poker, Whats your take on it??

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writing this because of yesterdays Young vs. Old game,, Is Fate involved in Poker?? in the 1st. hour yesterday i got Pocket AA,,KK,,QQ,, Four times each, and thats not counting the A K`s,, A Q`s, A J`s,, A 10`s and more, How is this Possible to get all these cards in 1 hour?? Is it Fate?? i could have played with just my glass eye and won with cards like this,lol;) So the Question is, Does Fate have a place in Poker,, is it meant to be?? after yesterday i thought about the wsop,, the guys that play that with 6,000+ players have to be lucky for 6 or 7 days,,and also skill is involved, but our event was about 3 hours i think, and i got Great Cards, Imagine getting them cards for 6 or 7 days in a row, so what do you think, is it Pre-determined by a higher power whos gonna win even before the game starts???? Oh Ya, sorry Karen for the big suckout the hand before the last one, Was That Fate or Skill,??,,lol,;) :p The End, Comments Please,,,, buck:) :cool:
 
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I guess if that was the case then the best players wouldn't still frequently win on bad runs of cards...but yeah, sometimes it definitely feels like your on a roll
 
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Not fate, just luck. There's always odds involved in every possible event on earth and there's always a chance that something with miniscule odds could happen. When it does, we as humans describe it as "amazing" or such. While hitting long odds might be amazing, the event itself is just something that is just "slightly possible". Such is poker.
 
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I'm a big believer in free will, as opposed to fate. I mean, if everything's pre-ordained, there isn't much point in learning how to play smart poker, and you might as well just push with any two cards.

So, then people might say how fate just nudges things, as opposed to dictating outright. How much nudging? Just enough to look like normally occurring patterns in random distributions? If so, fate is pretty weaksauce.

Yes, someone who wins a massive tournament is on the far end of a bell curve. He (or she) got an exceptional run of cards, and also had many of his big hands hold up. But for every winner, there would have also been someone on the opposite end of that curve. A person who, had they been given enough rebuys, would have had a terrible run of cards, and been drawn out on in nearly every situation.
 
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Don't forget that the values we set on poker hands is almost completely arbitrary. The chances of being dealt AcAs is exactly the same as being dealt 7s2h.

I saw a speech once and the professor started off by saying something like this: On my way in here today, I saw a car with a license plate that read E472G. I was stunned. Can you imagine the odds of that? :D
 
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Don't forget that the values we set on poker hands is almost completely arbitrary. The chances of being dealt AcAs is exactly the same as being dealt 7s2h.

I saw a speech once and the professor started off by saying something like this: On my way in here today, I saw a car with a license plate that read E472G. I was stunned. Can you imagine the odds of that? :D

Ah yes, but the odds of seeing that license plate increase if you live in the same state/city/neighborhood as the owner. The odds increase even more if you and the owner have similar habits and commutes.

True, the odds of getting AA vs. 72 delt out of any single deck are exactly the same. However, as with the license plate example, your odds of success with those cards are determined by your position and habits of your neighbors. :cool:

Therein lies the beauty of poker as a game of skill.
Yes, even Jamie Gold had to have some element of skill in winning his bracelet.
 
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i know you need skill too, and Jamie Gold was VERY lucky from the start to the finish,,,,, so i guess nobody believes that> whats going to happen will hapen, no matter what< maybe its just me, but Sunday after just 10 minutes i kinda knew i was gonna win,, everything was going good, i should say Great,,:D lol,, ill probally never get cards like that again,, buck:)
 
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Eventually you will be dealt AA, 4 or 5 times running. Statistically, if you play enough hands it has to happen... Runs of good and bad luck are to be expected in this game. What separates the good and bad players is how they deal the runs. They win more with the good hands and they loose less with the poor ones.

Wish I knew how to.
 
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Yesterday I played .10/.25 NL at PS for about a half hour. In that time I had AA twice, KK, and QQ.

That more than made up for the 82 hands in a row I had last Wednesday without catching a pair - any pair.
 
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writing this because of yesterdays Young vs. Old game,, Is Fate involved in Poker?? in the 1st. hour yesterday i got Pocket AA,,KK,,QQ,, Four times each, and thats not counting the A K`s,, A Q`s, A J`s,, A 10`s and more, How is this Possible to get all these cards in 1 hour?? Is it Fate??
I don't know, i'm guesstimating that in a CC MTT 1 hour is 80-100 hands. If you've got 220/1 chance of getting dealt AA, then I would have thought you've got an 220/3 chance (or 73/1) chance of being dealt AA, KK or QQ. So if you played 80 hands, statistically you should see 1 hand of AA KK or QQ.

It's beyond my ability to calculate the possibility of being dealt 16 hands of AA, KK or QQ within 80 hands, but it's probably such a small possibility as to be virtually unachievable in real life.

Are you still able to call up the Hand History? I'd love to see it if you can.
 
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Its not impossible.

The odds would be approx 1 - (79/80 x 79/80 x 79/80) = 3%
 
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I suppose if you think about it like, on 70 hands per hour, you get 1 pair of aces per 3 hours

Also 1 pair of KK

Also 1 pair of QQ
 
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Then it is not so distant to extend it out that over a month, you are going to see a Hot Hour where you get AA, KK, QQ. You will probably see it 4-5 times a month if you play every day
 
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