# Does jackpots effect the way you play hands?

#### Bill_Hollorian

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
I was playing at the Alladin in beautiful Las Vegas earlier.
They have a high hand jackpot, which I hate. It takes to much money out of pots, and reduces equity. After you pay the rake, pay the jackpot, tip the dealer, your out like 7 bucks. Anyways...

I'm in a rather large pot, with huge pre-flop action. I respect my opponent, and feel he is a solid player. Based on that, I was sure the flop missed him. I pushed, he called. and tables 33. OK he has trips. He takes my entire stack. Fine, but what the hell is he doing in the pot? We know each other, so later he came up and tells me he was in the pot because he felt any pocket pair that could improve to a 4 of a kind is worth playing, as the jackpot is so high.

Question:
Is it common to allow high hand jackpots to effect the way you normally play hands? I ask because it never even occured to me. Do I need to factor this, when I play in establishments that have high hand jackpots?

Bill

#### Crippler450

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
The chances of catching one of those high hands is so low that any normal person would not let it effect their play much if any. Just keep playing normally and you most likely wont run into many players like that.

#### XXIII

##### Rock Star
Silver Level
Big Pots are nice. But you gotta play the cards ya got. If you don't have it, unless you are sure he dont have it either, then you should just get out. Sure ya lost a lot but its better then losing it all

#### diabloblanco

##### Legend
Silver Level
I don't like that play at all. Why figure a very unsure amount of money into your calling equation? You aren't going to make the high-hand in most cases, so determining whether to call or not by adding that amount to the equation is definitely -EV.

#### RammerJammer

##### Visionary
Silver Level
I can say, yes, I've made a conscious decision based upon the jackpot. I was online the other day at Ultimate Bet at the .50/1.00 NLHE ring table. They are currently running "big hand" jackpots every 90 minutes. They post the current big hand leader at the bottom of the screen, along with the time remaining until payoff. The leader to claim a \$600+ jackpot was a King-high straight flush. There were only twelve minutes remaining until the start of the next jackpot segment.

I was holding 4/5 of a Royal Flush in spades with the river yet to come. I needed the Jack. Now, picking up your flush on the river is roughly 20-to-1 against. Catching the Jack of spades? I can't count that high! Ordinarily, I wouldn't mess around with it, because it's a real long-shot to hit, and I would rarely get properly paid off anyway. No way I would call an all-in on a river draw, jackpot or no jackpot.

But my opponent only bet about 1/4 of the pot. This is a situation where I normally fold to any bet. Nothing but Ace high and a wish. However, I weighed the bet against the prospect of hitting that Royal to pick up several hundred quick bucks, and decided it was worth a shot. I called. I missed. No jackpot. But I didn't get hurt too badly, either. Everyone at the table said they'd have gone for it, too.

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#### dydig

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level
Running for the jackpot will very quickly become an expensive hobby, but seeing an expensive flop with a pocket pair, might not be completely off the head. The jackpot is just a perk, though. Nothing to play towards.

/dydig

#### robwhufc

##### Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
RammerJammer said:
I was holding 4/5 of a Royal Flush in spades with the river yet to come. I needed the Jack. Now, picking up your flush on the river is roughly 20-to-1 against. Catching the Jack of spades? I can't count that high! Ordinarily, I wouldn't mess around with it, because it's a real long-shot to hit, and I would rarely get properly paid off anyway. No way I would call an all-in on a river draw, jackpot or no jackpot.
52 cards in pack, you can see 6, that leaves 46, so 45/1 odds. You would also win post (not jackpot) if any spade hits - you've got 4, so 9 left - so 4/1 odds. Also A, K ,Q may have won.

How much did you need to bet? If you add \$600 to pot and divide by stake would you have got better odds.

Of course you are much more likely not to get card, but \$600? I'd have bet.

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#### pagemaster25

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level

i think there rigged

#### robwhufc

##### Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
pagemaster25 said:
i think there rigged
15th post - see you in freeroll

Silver Level
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#### Geo2124

##### Enthusiast
Silver Level
ya the jackpot always plays a factor on how i end up playing. I ulually play much more aggresive in lower pots and more conservitive in bigger pots!

T

#### teach21

##### Rising Star
Bronze Level
jackpots..

remember, tipping is optional, and obviously it adds up...even the big players in las vegas dont tip a ton..just moderately at best...

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