Care and feeding of fish?

NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Do you guys put much thought into managing fish?

I met my first clear cut fish last night at a .02/.05 table. He played almost every hand, called almost all preflop raises, bet out of position, called almost everything in position, reraised on the river with second high pair, etc. And rebought for the table maximum after going broke once (at least once that I saw).

I made him broke a second time w/ATs, that flopped an ace, another ace on the turn, 10 on the river.

Later I had second thoughts about my river play though, as I pushed at that time. The whole hand I was trying to draw him down without scaring him off, but maybe I should have minibet the river, thereby allowing him to reraise me so he'd feel better and rebuy again. As it was, he left after that hand.

What is the psychology of this type of fish? How do you encourage them to stay around? I guess you could say things like "I got lucky" when you beat him, or "nh" when he does win a hand.
 
zowzza

zowzza

Enthusiast
you never know, sometimes they sit with a certain amount to lose or all thats in there accout. other times you'd be right. I wouldn't sweat it and throw the hook back out :)
 
gord962

gord962

Legend
Mark the fish in your favourites and look for them every time you sign on. As for taking their money, if you don't take it, someone else at your table will.
 
Bombjack

Bombjack

Legend
Just be friendly and chat to them, make them feel at home, and fell that they couldn't lose to a nicer guy! That's when I've lost most money, when the table is really friendly. And I'm having fun so I don't mind until I look at my stats much later on!
 
NineLions

NineLions

Advanced beginner
Just be friendly and chat to them, make them feel at home, and fell that they couldn't lose to a nicer guy! That's when I've lost most money, when the table is really friendly. And I'm having fun so I don't mind until I look at my stats much later on!

Yeah, this is why verbal abuse doesn't make much sense to me, especially if someone really is a bad player. Don't tap on the aquarium, you might scare the fish away.
 
gord962

gord962

Legend
Yeah, this is why verbal abuse doesn't make much sense to me, especially if someone really is a bad player. Don't tap on the aquarium, you might scare the fish away.
That's what I tell everyone who starts berating poor players
 
gord962

gord962

Legend
Yeah, this is why verbal abuse doesn't make much sense to me, especially if someone really is a bad player. Don't tap on the aquarium, you might scare the fish away.
Funny thing about this is most of the time the person berating the fish usually made the mistake by either not betting enough PF or giving odds to call (whether the fish was playing right or not). I then explain that fish was right to make the call and they start being a bit nicer :) or they are completely dumb and start abusing me, then I continue to pick their plays apart until they tilt, but that's a different thread.
 
shinedown.45

shinedown.45

Legend
Call me mean but I usually pick, hook, reel-in the fishes and then proceed to fillet them until they leave, no mister nice guy here.
It's my way of teaching them the finer points of poker without saying a word, and if they don't get the message I follow them around until they do and sometimes tell them about the forum when I start feeling sorry for them and their bad play.
I sat down at one table and saw this one player losing hand after hand and told him about CC and he said he didn't need to learn anything more and I left it at that.
If your a fish, I'm a shark and I'll rip you apart is my mentality at times.
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
When you take their stack, always thank them politely.
 

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Bombjack

Bombjack

Legend
lolz

Seat 1: fallin2aces - $16.43
Seat 3: Fortinbras - $134.72
Seat 4: Bombjack - $94.45
Seat 5: Jan0702 - $14.50
Seat 6: Snowpoll - $0 (away from table)
Moving Button to seat 3
Bombjack posts small blind ($0.25)
Jan0702 posts big blind ($0.50)
Shuffling Deck
Dealing Cards
Dealing [5s] [3s] to Bombjack
fallin2aces raises to $1
Fortinbras calls $1
Bombjack calls $1
Jan0702 calls $1
Dealing Flop [4c] [3c] [5d]
Bombjack checks
Jan0702 checks
fallin2aces bets $15.43 (all-in)
Fortinbras folds
Bombjack calls $15.43
Jan0702 folds
fallin2aces shows [Ad] [Kh]
Bombjack shows [5s] [3s]
Dealing Turn [3d]
Dealing River [Ks]
Taking Rake of $1.74 from pot 1
fallin2aces has Two Pairs: Kings, 3s
Bombjack has Full House, 3s over 5s
Bombjack wins $33.12 with: Full House, 3s over 5s
fallin2aces: 5 3 U COC
Bombjack: good nl hand
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
lol n1 Egon:) i really hate sore losers

Thanks, m8.

I love it when they get in a state like that. While they are raging at me and blaming me for their loss, it`s obvious they are not thinking about their error and are quite likely to do it again. I`ll put them on my buddy list for another day.
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
That is one of the funniest screencaps i've seen yet.

Funniest part is the thought that my polite reply probably made him even more mad than if I`d cursed him back. I bet he was chewing the carpet. :D


Reminds me of a time, a few years back now, when I was managing a retail store. Security caught a customer trying to leave the store with goods he hadn`t paid for. We took the goods back, and I told the guy that he was banned, and must leave the store and never come back.

He got all menacing and said to me, "What time do you get off work ? I`ll see you later."

I politely replied, "It`s kind of you to offer, but you`re not really my type. Have you considered getting a girl ?"

You know how they say that people "foam at the mouth" when they are mega-angry ? They do, they really do. :D
 
hott_estelle

hott_estelle

Guest
Funniest part is the thought that my polite reply probably made him even more mad than if I`d cursed him back. I bet he was chewing the carpet. :D


Reminds me of a time, a few years back now, when I was managing a retail store. Security caught a customer trying to leave the store with goods he hadn`t paid for. We took the goods back, and I told the guy that he was banned, and must leave the store and never come back.

He got all menacing and said to me, "What time do you get off work ? I`ll see you later."

I politely replied, "It`s kind of you to offer, but you`re not really my type. Have you considered getting a girl ?"

You know how they say that people "foam at the mouth" when they are mega-angry ? They do, they really do. :D

Yea, your polite reply after his terets outbreak, was just priceless. I should do that more often. But most people don't cuss me out on a poker table, live or online.

And to your other story, oh gosh, well, did he stick around? Or did you sneak out the back door? JK. I think.
 
Egon Towst

Egon Towst

Cardschat Elite
did he stick around? Or did you sneak out the back door?

Neither. You`ve nothing to fear from a person who talks big about what he`s going to do later. If he doesn`t have a go while his blood is up, he certainly won`t after he`s cooled off and thought about it.

Besides, even the dumbest gorilla can usually figure out that a man who is cool and confident enough to crack a joke in a dangerous situation is not someone who is going to be intimidated, and probably not someone you want to be tangling with.
 
troderick

troderick

Rock Star
I put a fellow out of a $10 SnG early at bodog couple of weeks ago and he lost his mind. He stuck around and berated me the rest of the tournament. He cussed me up and down threatened bodily harm and worse. I called customer service at Bodog while the tournament was still going on and I haven't seen him since.

By the way, he was using the real words without stars or anything. All the 4 letter words and more. One of the other players asked him how he did that and he said he had the code or something. Anyone know what he meant?
 
cali420fornia

cali420fornia

Guest
the bodog 12$ 6handed sit and goes are the best. usually dont get to much trash talking. also havent run into too many sharks.
 
WOODHIGHLYE

WOODHIGHLYE

Guest
sharkvsfish.jpg

"thats when bob knew he was in trouble"
 
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