Bad Calls By Villain That Won, And Some That Didn't

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Some of my posts lately have been on the subject of my good hands in $2 NL FR getting flattened by calls by the villain that were questionable, and some that were downright crappy.

I'm not talking about hands like P-As getting killed by P-Ks on the FLop or another street, P-Ks are GOOD hands and that crap will happen to anyone. I'm talking about hands where players called pre-flop raises with absolute garbage, or questionable at best.

I've taken a little flak for this, and people (several people, actually) have said it should be easy to profit big from players like this, and while I would should agree, I can't. Maybe it's just a really long stretch of bad luck, maybe it's a major leak in my game I don't see this stuff coming.

I've decided to start a thread showing some of these hands, and with fairness, I'll post some that I won with. I won't cross-post hands from my Journal thread where I solicit analysis. While the intention of this thread isn't asking for analysis, if you see a leak, please feel free to say so.

So to start, here's one that happened this morning.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 45 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BB: 17 BB (VPIP: 52.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 102 BB (VPIP: 15.48, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 254)
UTG+1: 206 BB (VPIP: 13.88, PFR: 3.83, 3Bet Preflop: 1.33, Hands: 212)
Hero (MP): 298 BB
MP+1: 53.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 35)
CO: 40 BB (VPIP: 8.43, PFR: 7.23, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 83)
BTN: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: K:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: 6:club: K:club:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB raises to 20 BB, fold, Hero raises to 70 BB, SB calls 21.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (93.5 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:

River: (93.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club:

SB shows 6:heart: 7:spade: (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 36%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows A:diamond: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (Pre 64%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 90 BB


Here's one that I won. Now, a small Suited A is OK to limp with (in my opinion) with as many bbs as players in the pot, but to shove with a raise and a caller behind you is a bit much. What is the 5 or 2 on the Flop was a Q, we would have chopped and effectively lost money because of rake.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 88 BB (VPIP: 19.15, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
Hero (UTG+1): 140 BB
UTG+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
MP: 51.5 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP+1: 107 BB (VPIP: 29.33, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 77)
CO: 88 BB (VPIP: 19.78, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
BTN: 22 BB (VPIP: 45.83, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 24)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BB: 138.5 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 24)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: K:club:

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 3.5 BB, fold, BTN raises to 22 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls 18.5 BB, fold

Flop: (49 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: K:spade: 2:diamond:

Turn: (49 BB, 2 players) J:heart:

River: (49 BB, 2 players) T:diamond:

Hero shows A:club: K:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 71%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
BTN shows 6:spade: A:spade: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 29%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 47.5 BB
 
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Some of my posts lately have been on the subject of my good hands in $2 NL FR getting flattened by calls by the villain that were questionable, and some that were downright crappy.

I'm not talking about hands like P-As getting killed by P-Ks on the FLop or another street, P-Ks are GOOD hands and that crap will happen to anyone. I'm talking about hands where players called pre-flop raises with absolute garbage, or questionable at best.

I've taken a little flak for this, and people (several people, actually) have said it should be easy to profit big from players like this, and while I would should agree, I can't. Maybe it's just a really long stretch of bad luck, maybe it's a major leak in my game I don't see this stuff coming.

I've decided to start a thread showing some of these hands, and with fairness, I'll post some that I won with. I won't cross-post hands from my Journal thread where I solicit analysis. While the intention of this thread isn't asking for analysis, if you see a leak, please feel free to say so.

So to start, here's one that happened this morning.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 45 BB (VPIP: 29.63, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
BB: 17 BB (VPIP: 52.00, PFR: 4.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 102 BB (VPIP: 15.48, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 254)
UTG+1: 206 BB (VPIP: 13.88, PFR: 3.83, 3Bet Preflop: 1.33, Hands: 212)
Hero (MP): 298 BB
MP+1: 53.5 BB (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 35)
CO: 40 BB (VPIP: 8.43, PFR: 7.23, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 83)
BTN: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:diamond: K:diamond:

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3 BB, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 3 players) 6:spade: 6:club: K:club:
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets 10 BB, SB raises to 20 BB, fold, Hero raises to 70 BB, SB calls 21.5 BB and is all-in

Turn: (93.5 BB, 2 players) 4:spade:

River: (93.5 BB, 2 players) 2:club:

SB shows 6:heart: 7:spade: (Three of a Kind, Sixes) (Pre 36%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows A:diamond: K:diamond: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (Pre 64%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 90 BB


Here's one that I won. Now, a small Suited A is OK to limp with (in my opinion) with as many bbs as players in the pot, but to shove with a raise and a caller behind you is a bit much. What is the 5 or 2 on the Flop was a Q, we would have chopped and effectively lost money because of rake.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 88 BB (VPIP: 19.15, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
Hero (UTG+1): 140 BB
UTG+2: 100 BB (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 56)
MP: 51.5 BB (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
MP+1: 107 BB (VPIP: 29.33, PFR: 17.33, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 77)
CO: 88 BB (VPIP: 19.78, PFR: 10.99, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
BTN: 22 BB (VPIP: 45.83, PFR: 29.17, 3Bet Preflop: 22.22, Hands: 24)
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
BB: 138.5 BB (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 24)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A:club: K:club:

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 3.5 BB, fold, BTN raises to 22 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls 18.5 BB, fold

Flop: (49 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond: K:spade: 2:diamond:

Turn: (49 BB, 2 players) J:heart:

River: (49 BB, 2 players) T:diamond:

Hero shows A:club: K:club: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 71%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
BTN shows 6:spade: A:spade: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 29%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 47.5 BB

AK: why bet so large on flop, make it 5-7BB IMO. A min raise is absolutely terrible for us here. If he had a king.... He would likely flat on the flop because he acknowledges that we will only call his min raise with good hands. Min raises on flops are some of the biggest tells against these players, villain will pretty much always have the 6 here.

Second hand is fine, GII pre well played
 
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AK: why bet so large on flop, make it 5-7BB IMO. A min raise is absolutely terrible for us here. If he had a king.... He would likely flat on the flop because he acknowledges that we will only call his min raise with good hands. Min raises on flops are some of the biggest tells against these players, villain will pretty much always have the 6 here.

Second hand is fine, GII pre well played

My normal raise on the Flop if I'm ahead (or think I'm ahead), but point well taken.

That being said, it still doesn't get away from the shyte he called with. Also, I've won plenty of hands where the villain was trying to bluff me off the hand with a raise on the Flop, and that's what I suspected here.
 
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Get used to it , many people will speculate when they see connectors ,suited or not especially from the blinds at this level.He speculated and hit a lucky flop it happens sometimes .Pot control is necessary on boards like this IMO TPTK is not always good at showdown as you found out the hard way.GL in the future.....scorp
 
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My normal raise on the Flop if I'm ahead (or think I'm ahead), but point well taken.

That being said, it still doesn't get away from the shyte he called with. Also, I've won plenty of hands where the villain was trying to bluff me off the hand with a raise on the Flop, and that's what I suspected here.

But dude min raise bluffs are not really all that common amongst fishes. Most of the time From my experience a min raise on a flop with this texture will always be trips, and pretty much never anything else
 
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OK, this is pretty cool how this clown plays. 65 hands and he was 48/23.

Now, people say you have to adapt to play successfully against someone like this. I have to ask "HOW???" My only action is to leave the table.

Same villain won all hands. Only hands of any value I saw him lose were P-Ks against P-As, and he lost a baby flush to a bigger one, but he's still up 166 bbs in 65 hands.

Villain is in the BB.

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (SB) ($7.70)
BB ($7.49)
UTG ($3.57)
MP1 ($8.52)
MP2 ($2.92)
CO ($5)
Button ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9
spade.gif
, J
club.gif

UTG raises to $0.12, 5 folds, BB calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.26) 2
heart.gif
, J
heart.gif
, 9
club.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $0.16, BB raises to $0.32, UTG calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.90) A
spade.gif
(2 players)
BB bets $0.40, UTG calls $0.40

River: ($1.70) 3
diamond.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $2.73 (All-In), BB calls $2.73

Total pot: $7.16 | Rake: $0.30

Results below:
BB had 2
club.gif
, J
spade.gif
(two pair, Jacks and twos).
UTG had Q
club.gif
, J
diamond.gif
(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: BB won $6.86

Villain here is UTG+1. He was original raiser, fine, my point of posting this hand is the run of luck he's on.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (UTG) ($5)
UTG+1 ($4.27)
MP1 ($5.69)
MP2 ($5)
MP3 ($5.91)
CO ($4.04)
Button ($5.09)
SB ($5.99)
BB ($5.28)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 7
heart.gif
, K
heart.gif

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.15, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.15, 2 folds, SB calls $0.13, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.50) 3
heart.gif
, 4
heart.gif
, 8
diamond.gif
(3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 bets $0.25, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, MP3 raises to $5.76 (All-In), UTG+1 calls $3.62 (All-In)

Turn: ($8.74) 2
diamond.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($8.74) 3
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $8.74 | Rake: $0.36

Results below:
UTG+1 had 4
diamond.gif
, 4
spade.gif
(full house, fours over threes).
MP3 had 9
diamond.gif
, 9
heart.gif
(two pair, nines and threes).
Outcome: UTG+1 won $8.38

Here our Villain is BB. Calls a pre 3-bet to 14 bbs with 33. Only a nut would do that, right??? Watch.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($7.63)
BB ($10.90)
UTG ($4.68)
UTG+1 ($8.52)
MP1 ($2.80)
MP2 ($5.23)
CO ($5.25)
Button ($5)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4
club.gif
, 4
heart.gif

UTG calls $0.05, UTG+1 raises to $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.08, BB calls $0.05, UTG raises to $0.70, 4 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) J
heart.gif
, 3
spade.gif
, 4
spade.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, UTG bets $1.15, BB raises to $2.30, UTG raises to $3.45, BB raises to $10.20 (All-In), UTG calls $0.53 (All-In)

Turn: ($9.76) 5
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($9.76) 8
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $9.76 | Rake: $0.40

Results below:
BB had 3
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, 3
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(three of a kind, threes).
UTG had J
diamond.gif
, K
diamond.gif
(one pair, Jacks).
Outcome: BB won $9.36

Now this hand involves me, and I fully and totally admit to a moment of weakness that cost me a BI. Stupid play I made on the Turn, I should know better, no excuse. However, still doesn't take away from the jerkoff call he made pre

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (MP1) ($5)
MP2 ($5)
MP3 ($5.62)
CO ($10.16)
Button ($5)
SB ($3.91)
BB ($5.09)
UTG ($6.03)
UTG+1 ($5.01)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A
diamond.gif
, A
club.gif

2 folds, Hero raises to $0.17, MP2 calls $0.17, 5 folds

Flop: ($0.41) 8
heart.gif
, 6
spade.gif
, 6
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.81) K
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.78, MP2 raises to $1.56, Hero raises to $4.63 (All-In), MP2 calls $3.07 (All-In)

River: ($10.07) 3
club.gif
(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $10.07 | Rake: $0.42

Results below:
Hero had A
diamond.gif
, A
club.gif
(two pair, Aces and sixes).
MP2 had K
club.gif
, 6
club.gif
(full house, sixes over Kings).
Outcome: MP2 won $9.65
 
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But dude min raise bluffs are not really all that common amongst fishes. Most of the time From my experience a min raise on a flop with this texture will always be trips, and pretty much never anything else

OK, thanks, lesson learned
 
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Get used to it , many people will speculate when they see connectors ,suited or not especially from the blinds at this level.He speculated and hit a lucky flop it happens sometimes .Pot control is necessary on boards like this IMO TPTK is not always good at showdown as you found out the hard way.GL in the future.....scorp

Used to it Scorp, but yet not, and I've found out too many times the hard way, sometimes my fault, sometimes not.
 
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Here's a guy who popped by one of my tables last night, seen him a few times before and always plays the same way. Comes to the table and usually spews his stack in one or two hands, but win or lose, he plays and leaves. I don't really think it's alcohol induced play, I've seen him at different times of the day, different days. Unless, of course, he's always drunk.

Down 354 bbs in 23 hands. I've seen him take a couple of massive pots when he got real lucky, but normally he's AI Pre with junk and loses

 
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But dude min raise bluffs are not really all that common amongst fishes. Most of the time From my experience a min raise on a flop with this texture will always be trips, and pretty much never anything else


I've often seen min raises used for information.

The board K87 ...

normally a min raise I often see weak kings. If you just call then he knows he's infront. If you reraise your telling him your infront.

So just flat with the nuts against this guy and make it look like a bluff at later streets cuz he just won't believe you.
 
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Here's one just happened, same shyte, different day and table, ................dare I say common country????

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.02, PFR: 12.21, 3Bet Preflop: 8.22, Hands: 214)
MP: 98 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 7.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 100)
CO: 54.5 BB (VPIP: 21.37, PFR: 11.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 136)
BTN: 196 BB (VPIP: 39.39, PFR: 3.03, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 102 BB (VPIP: 6.98, PFR: 4.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 81.5 BB (VPIP: 46.03, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 64)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:diamond: A:spade:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, UTG calls 4 BB, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 2 players) J:heart: 2:spade: 4:diamond:
Hero bets 5.5 BB, UTG calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) A:club:
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG calls 11 BB

River: (45 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG checks

Hero shows Q:diamond: A:spade: (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 65%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
UTG shows 4:spade: J:spade: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours) (Pre 35%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
UTG wins 43.5 BB
 
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Here's one just happened, same shyte, different day and table, ................dare I say common country????

PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 15.02, PFR: 12.21, 3Bet Preflop: 8.22, Hands: 214)
MP: 98 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 7.07, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 100)
CO: 54.5 BB (VPIP: 21.37, PFR: 11.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 136)
BTN: 196 BB (VPIP: 39.39, PFR: 3.03, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
Hero (SB): 100.5 BB
BB: 102 BB (VPIP: 6.98, PFR: 4.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 43)
UTG: 81.5 BB (VPIP: 46.03, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 4.00, Hands: 64)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, UTG calls 4 BB, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 2 players) J<font color='red'>♥</font> 2<font color='black'>♠</font> 4<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero bets 5.5 BB, UTG calls 5.5 BB

Turn: (23 BB, 2 players) A<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero bets 11 BB, UTG calls 11 BB

River: (45 BB, 2 players) K<font color='red'>♦</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks

Hero shows Q<font color='red'>♦</font> A<font color='black'>♠</font> (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 65%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
UTG shows 4<font color='black'>♠</font> J<font color='black'>♠</font> (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours) (Pre 35%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
UTG wins 43.5 BB

Lol hands like these drive me nuts. Worse ones though are when you flop top pair, they get middle/bottom pair, then make 2 pair on the turn/river with a ridiculous kicker. So you end up value betting for them as the board is so dry. Eh they lose in the long run, doesn't stop it being infuriating though.
 
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AQ hand. Bet river too. Against his range, the K doesn't change anything. If he had AK he already had you beat and given how loose he is theres gonna be a crap ton of bad hands he has. TPGK(TK here) is time to go value town against these guys. Just unlucky he showed up with 2 pair. You can't be afraid of fish hitting random 2 pair.
 
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Here's some more from today, all same Villain from a couple of different tables, last count 92 hands and 52/13.

As many times as I've seen it with different players, I still can't get my head around how 1 player can be this lucky this many times in the same session.



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($2.04)
SB ($0.66)
BB ($3.19)
UTG ($0.40)
Hero (UTG+1) ($2)
MP1 ($2.21)
MP2 ($2)
CO ($1.42)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J
spade.gif
, 4
heart.gif

6 folds, SB raises to $0.06, BB calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.12) A
diamond.gif
, 3
spade.gif
, 3
diamond.gif
(2 players)
SB bets $0.07, BB raises to $0.62, SB calls $0.53 (All-In)

Turn: ($1.32) 10
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($1.32) 4
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $1.32 | Rake: $0.05

Results below:
SB had Q
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, Q
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(two pair, Queens and threes).
BB had 3
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, A
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(full house, threes over Aces).
Outcome: BB won $1.27

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($1.97)
UTG+1 ($0.87)
MP1 ($0.80)
MP2 ($1.57)
CO ($1.97)
Button ($2.21)
SB ($2)
BB ($1.50)

Preflop:
3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.08, CO raises to $0.14, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.31) 10
diamond.gif
, K
club.gif
, J
diamond.gif
(2 players)
MP2 bets $0.22, CO calls $0.22

Turn: ($0.75) 9
spade.gif
(2 players)
MP2 bets $1.21 (All-In), CO calls $1.21

River: ($3.17) A
diamond.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $3.17 | Rake: $0.11

Results below:
MP2 had K
spade.gif
, Q
heart.gif
(straight, Ace high).
CO had J
club.gif
, J
spade.gif
(three of a kind, Jacks).
Outcome: MP2 won $3.06

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

CO ($1.96)
Button ($3.64)
SB ($2)
BB ($2)
UTG ($0.85)
UTG+1 ($2.68)
MP1 ($2.07)
MP2 ($1.01)

Preflop:
2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.08, 1 fold, CO calls $0.08, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.19) 6
heart.gif
, 9
heart.gif
, Q
spade.gif
(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.13, CO calls $0.13

Turn: ($0.45) 10
club.gif
(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.32, CO calls $0.32

River: ($1.09) 5
heart.gif
(2 players)
MP1 bets $0.79, CO raises to $1.43 (All-In), MP1 calls $0.64

Total pot: $3.95 | Rake: $0.14

Results below:
MP1 had Q
heart.gif
, Q
diamond.gif
(three of a kind, Queens).
CO had K
heart.gif
, 2
heart.gif
(flush, King high).
Outcome: CO won $3.81
 
SeaRun

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Here for your viewing pleasure we have 2 hands.

The first, I was involved in. Not quite sure why the Villain called my flop bet with nothing and no draw, but he did, and once he saw the flush draw on the turn, I guess I wasn't getting him off the hand. If this hand shows anything, it shows I'm learning to try to keep pots smaller so when shyte like this happens, losses are minimized. Maybe I should have raised pre-, but I got out of the habit of raising an opened pot (even if only limped) with baby and middle pairs, or small suited As.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

MP1 ($5.24)
MP2 ($5.30)
Hero (CO) ($5)
Button ($8.72)
SB ($5.34)
BB ($5)
UTG ($5)
UTG+1 ($5.10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9
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, 9
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3 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, Hero (poster) checks, 2 folds, BB checks

Flop: ($0.17) 7
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, 6
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, 5
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(3 players)
BB checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.16, 1 fold, MP2 calls $0.16

Turn: ($0.49) 10
spade.gif
(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.23, MP2 calls $0.23

River: ($0.95) A
heart.gif
(2 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks

Total pot: $0.95 | Rake: $0.04

Results below:
MP2 had 2
spade.gif
, A
spade.gif
(one pair, Aces).
Hero didn't show 9
club.gif
, 9
heart.gif
(one pair, nines).
Outcome: MP2 won $0.91




The second one I stayed out of. You have a guy 3-betting with junk, which is fine, it's a bluff. But the way the hand progressed amazes me, where on the turn, one guy is on a gut-shot and the other is on a double belly-buster. Again, maybe I'm nuts, but I wouldn't chase this, would you?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

UTG+1 ($5.17)
MP1 ($5.70)
Hero (MP2) ($5)
CO ($8.87)
Button ($5.57)
SB ($5.02)
BB ($5.12)
UTG ($4.04)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 5
diamond.gif
, A
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UTG raises to $0.10, 3 folds, CO calls $0.10, Button raises to $0.39, 3 folds, CO calls $0.29

Flop: ($0.95) A
spade.gif
, 10
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, 8
club.gif
(2 players)
CO checks, Button checks

Turn: ($0.95) 7
club.gif
(2 players)
CO checks, Button bets $0.54, CO calls $0.54

River: ($2.03) 9
heart.gif
(2 players)
CO bets $1.95, Button calls $1.95

Total pot: $5.93 | Rake: $0.25

Results below:
Button didn't show
CO had Q
club.gif
, J
diamond.gif
(straight, Queen high).
Outcome: CO won $5.68
 
akaRobbo

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The guy calling just over half pot on a double belly buster isn't a horrendous play. He's probably putting the other guy on an ace, or even a worse straight. As we know, fish will call off stacks with top pair, so he's probably looking at decent implied odds if he hits the river, he certainly will be if it ended up straight over straight.

I agree about what you said about keeping pots small when you're unsure if you're ahead. Lots of players will make crazy bets, bigger than they should at the Micros, which won't give you good odds, or will make you unsure if they have you beat. Waiting for the best spots is worth it, they will call you off nicely too, with worse hands.
 
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you're never going to be able to stop people calling with junk and flopping QUADS with 72o, leave it to your opponent to have to make bad calls and come from behind, just remember getting it in good is gunna pay you off in the long run.
 
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Found one that went my way:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($1.65)
BB ($2.72)
Hero (UTG) ($2.26)
UTG+1 ($0.58)
MP1 ($2)
MP2 ($1.80)
CO ($2.06)
Button ($1.93)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A
diamond.gif
, A
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Hero raises to $0.09, 1 fold, MP1 (poster) calls $0.07, 5 folds

Flop: ($0.21) 10
spade.gif
, 10
club.gif
, 3
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, MP1 calls $0.20

Turn: ($0.61) 8
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.59, MP1 calls $0.59

River: ($1.79) 6
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, MP1 calls $0.70

Total pot: $3.19 | Rake: $0.11

Results below:
Hero had A
diamond.gif
, A
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(two pair, Aces and tens).
MP1 didn't show {{He had 4-6 of Clubs}}
Outcome: Hero won $3.08



Then, same table, 10 minutes later, this clown bluffs his stack on the River 3 hands in a row, reloads and comes back at it again, so I had no issues what-so-ever calling his raise on the Turn, thinking he was bluffing:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (7 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

UTG ($0.43)
Hero (MP1) ($2.71)
MP2 ($2.05)
CO ($2.72)
Button ($2)
SB ($2)
BB ($2.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A
club.gif
, A
diamond.gif

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.07, 4 folds, BB calls $0.05

Flop: ($0.15) 10
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, K
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, 6
club.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.14, BB calls $0.14

Turn: ($0.43) 5
diamond.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.41, BB raises to $1.02, Hero raises to $1.63, BB raises to $1.89 (All-In), Hero calls $0.26

River: ($4.21) 8
spade.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $4.21 | Rake: $0.15

Results below:
BB had K
diamond.gif
, 10
spade.gif
(two pair, Kings and tens).
Hero had A
club.gif
, A
diamond.gif
(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $4.06
 
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Appreciating the thread and your share, Jim!
 
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On the last hand what is with that 3 bet min raise on the turn leaving $.26 behind? Pretty fishy, if you are going to 3 bet there just jam.

Also, what are you beating that is going to call that raise? AK? You lose value with that raise and should call and get the rest in on the river so that you can get villains to stack off with weaker holdings.(In general situations)
 
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On the last hand what is with that 3 bet min raise on the turn leaving $.26 behind? Pretty fishy, if you are going to 3 bet there just jam.

Also, what are you beating that is going to call that raise? AK? You lose value with that raise and should call and get the rest in on the river so that you can get villains to stack off with weaker holdings.(In general situations)

That raise was a miscalculation in my head, I thought I was putting him AI.

I didn't even consider what he had, look back before the hand, the way I said he was playing.

Here's another Russian River Lover I found, going into this hand I had 16 hands on him and he was 64/0 and down 140 bbs.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($6.63)
SB ($1.56)
Hero (BB) ($2)
UTG ($2.35)
UTG+1 ($1.90)
MP1 ($2.08)
MP2 ($2.25)
MP3 ($0.70)
CO ($1.11)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
heart.gif
, J
diamond.gif

1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, 3 folds, CO calls $0.02, 1 fold, SB calls $0.01, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.08) J
heart.gif
, A
spade.gif
, 8
club.gif
(4 players)
SB bets $0.04, Hero raises to $0.12, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.72, CO raises to $1.09 (All-In), Hero calls $0.37

Turn: ($2.30) J
club.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($2.30) A
club.gif
(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $2.30 | Rake: $0.08

Results below:
Hero had 8
heart.gif
, J
diamond.gif
(full house, Jacks over Aces).
CO had A
diamond.gif
, K
spade.gif
(full house, Aces over Jacks).
Outcome: CO won $2.22
 
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A hand a while before this one, same Villain slowplayed P-Ks when I was on the BB with J-2 O. Flop came J-2-7. I bet, he raised, I 3 bet and he shoved, I called. Turn and River were 5-5.

Then this happened. I think I peed a little I laughed so hard:

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 120/240 Blinds 25 Ante (9 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB (t2,485)
UTG (t14,209)
UTG+1 (t3,187)
Hero (MP1) (t9,570)
MP2 (t7,301)
MP3 (t1,467)
CO (t3,750)
Button (t6,304)
SB (t3,809)

Hero's M: 16.36

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 8
club.gif
, 8
spade.gif

UTG raises to t480, 1 fold, Hero raises to t1,200, 6 folds, UTG calls t720

Flop: (t2,985) 3
spade.gif
, K
heart.gif
, K
diamond.gif
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t2,985) J
spade.gif
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t2,985) 2
heart.gif
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: t2,985

Results below:
UTG had 2
club.gif
, 3
club.gif
(two pair, Kings and threes).
Hero had 8
club.gif
, 8
spade.gif
(two pair, Kings and eights).
Outcome: Hero won t2,985
 
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Ha. Some many things wrong with the way villain played the hand. Amazing how bad some people are. (not saying im good) Enjoying this thread, keep it up mate.
 
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Robbo, wanna know what I find so funny and sad all at the same time?? If the board hadn't have paired, I would have lost
 
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it happens that some people associate with connectors, for example 67,89,34 and get in the set,and you rolled over pair , and you don't know what your in for a raise to 3bb with AQ opponent could get into a set when the cards 4 4 Q
 
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