A few days ago I made a $ 20 deposit to 888 poker. All right ... I started playing cash. I doubled my money after 2 hours of play. I lost everything in about 10 minutes. How? The bad part that I deconcentrated after I lost an all in for about $ 10, I KK vs A3. From this moment everything has been ruined. My state of mind, focus have gone ..... my question always sounds in my mind ..... how can you play all in with A3 ???? At this point ... I have no more fun playing poker. How long ... I do not know .... I'm disappointed. Am I stupid or the worst player in the world ???:confus ed::confus ed:

You know that mistreating people is very bad, Don't you?. So, you should not mistreat yourself. We all make mistakes and from them we must learn the lesson. Stop saying that you are the worst or the most stupid player in the world. Instead of feeling bad or self-pity you have to start working on how to improve that negative part of you.I will share a big mistake that I made a few days ago.
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You are not alone, a very high percentage of people lose in online poker. They pay rake and the house always wins. You are not the worst player, just a little unlucky. If you are not enjoying it any more you can stop depositing. You can consider freerolls in 888 poker.

stupid? no...worst player in the world? doubtful

If you put too much pressure on yourself, you will never enjoy the game...why just not accept that you are where you are right now (in terms of ability) ...just learn things in small chunks (if you want to learn that is)...if not, then you will pick things us, through experience..

enjoyment is key...but that is only possible, if you take the pressure off yourself and accept you are where you are currently. top:

The Mean Answer: Dude, you haven't played enough to get past mathematical variance. So, there is no way to know if you're good or not.

The Nice Answer: Some of the people you've played with probably think you're a genius. Others are ambush predators just waiting for you to come along. So, it's all relative.


The Accurate Answer: Poker is actually a difficult game to learn. So, find your level, relax and have fun.


Cheers!

Don't seek for answer in a short term result! Poker is a long term ''activity'' . Ok I know there are some guys who bink something big in the short term but how many are those?

Play whenever you can , improve your game and I believe that this is the key to success. Never tell yourself that you know everything about poker!

I started playing poker in 2008 I played at least four days each week for about 4 years. I was winning a $ 10,000 Freeroll at Carbon Poker, earning $ 1632! (check in the Carbon Poker archive). I started playing Cash. The biggest cash withdrawal was $ 3,000. Finally ... my life has reserved something else and I started playing poker less and less in the last few years of any game! 2-3 months ago I started playing again. Now I play from memories ???

Thank you all for your good and pozitive words.

AlfieAA said something to remember it : enjoyment is key!!!

It’s the best advice ever!!

Thank you!

This is part of poker, especially in cash games. You can be sure that there are many like you the worst of everything everything is when you have any set and another player has a set bigger than yours

Fully agree: top prio is to enjoy!
From what you describe, please have a look at BRM Bank Roll Management. If done well, you cannot go broke.
I'm probably worse than you as player, but didn't go broke (yet).
Good Luck (it also help, apart from BRM, study and good cards)

It happens to me all the time, I think the culprit of this is the attention and greed, the inability to stop in time and slow down!

Hi there,

the first rule of cash poker is....its not the hand you play but the relative size of someones bankroll.
I have seen players with Ace rag offsuit be prepared to risk all as they can probably afford it and go up against monster hands...AK is never safe and i would take 22 over AK offsuit more often in a flip than not...
Cash games are great tv and its clear why players move tables regularly to keep the focus.

i wish you every luck

Pirateglenn

I'm not that great of a player personally but I remember sharkscoping this player on ACR who has lost $60,000 dollars approx with average bet of like $3.5. Which is insane. He called my all in on flop with king queen high I had pocket 77 flop was 992 he rivered a queen and I decided to look him up it was like legrerr or legerr. Worst player on ACR for sure.

10$ all in, with 20$ stack? are you serious?
Maybe you should learn bankroll management?

Originally Posted by Betmakers

10$ all in, with 20$ stack? are you serious?
Maybe you should learn bankroll management?

If you read well, my bankroll was $ 40 !!! I call all in with KK in my hand. He had A 3 ... total pot was 21 $. What did you do? Folded?

the problem is knowing when to stop for a break and try another day. I use to make the same mistakes you did but I learned to be different. no matter what you will not be lucky all the time just need to learn when to stop.

Originally Posted by adigeamanu

If you read well, my bankroll was $ 40 !!! I call all in with KK in my hand. He had A 3 ... total pot was 21 $. What did you do? Folded?

I think this forum is for learning and not for criticizing !!! if I needed to be criticized I was going to “my wife “!!I
I have told the story, hoping that some of the players here have done the same and can give me some advice!
If you have a good advice , i’m very glad to hear it.

If not... good Luck at tables and please don’t do my mistake!

With all my respect... Adrian

Probably the greatest thing poker teaches you for life, given you are willing to listen, is that it makes you realize how fragile and (in OP’s words) stupid your mind is.

Originally Posted by adigeamanu

A few days ago I made a $ 20 deposit to 888 poker. All right ... I started playing cash. I doubled my money after 2 hours of play. I lost everything in about 10 minutes. How? The bad part that I deconcentrated after I lost an all in for about $ 10, I KK vs A3. From this moment everything has been ruined. My state of mind, focus have gone ..... my question always sounds in my mind ..... how can you play all in with A3 ???? At this point ... I have no more fun playing poker. How long ... I do not know .... I'm disappointed. Am I stupid or the worst player in the world ???:confus ed::confus ed:

Hello Friend ! You're not stupid, you're not the worst player in the world! You just got into a bad series! This thing can happen to everyone, another Bad Beat!It seems like you are entered into a full tilt ! You must take immediate measures to prevent catastrophic consequences! Success !

All these responses and I'm the first person to talk about bankroll management?

The Mean Answer: You played too high.

The Nice Answer: I'm sure they were such bad beats keep your chin up


The Accurate Answer: Exercise proper bankroll management there is a great thread on CC about it.

I think having a good run then losing it put you on Entitlement tilt.
Have a read of Jerrard Tendler book of google it. Very helpful book.

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The mean answer: That's what happens when you don't follow proper bankroll managment. What did you expect when playing half your bankroll in a pot really? Or you believe you would never lose a shove with kings?

The nice answer: If we exclude bankroll managment, you definately are not stupid shoving with pocket kings. The worst player on the world is probably the one who called a shove with Ace rag. Wtf really.. Even at play money they don't do that stuff!


The accurate answer: Someone donking on your kings with ace rag may be hard to swallow, but not a good reason to lose your last 20$. You should control tilt. One way to prevent tilt is exercising proper bankroll managment. Let's say you stopped at 40$ and played maybe 10$ dollars, the bad beat pot would be 5$ dollars. Not enough to tilt you into "I just lost a 2 hours profit and I'm back to zero, I want to quit poker forever, I don't care, I'm shoving bottom pair". You would still have money to play comfortably and not emotionally. And in all probability, you would make even more money, since finding an opponent willing to call a shove with Ace rag, means +ev in the long run.

Originally Posted by adigeamanu

A few days ago I made a $ 20 deposit to 888 poker. All right ... I started playing cash. I doubled my money after 2 hours of play. I lost everything in about 10 minutes. How? The bad part that I deconcentrated after I lost an all in for about $ 10, I KK vs A3. From this moment everything has been ruined. My state of mind, focus have gone ..... my question always sounds in my mind ..... how can you play all in with A3 ???? At this point ... I have no more fun playing poker. How long ... I do not know .... I'm disappointed. Am I stupid or the worst player in the world ???:confus ed::confus ed:

This is called tilt, it happens unfortunately and usually the opponent is also tilted and that's why he goes all In with crap. When your head goes you must stop playing until it's clear again. Meditation helps but tilt can last for days.

I'm sorry about what happened to you, but it will happen from time to time.There are days when the game is against you and do not let the thoughts think that you are the worst player...Good luck, keep your hands up...

Originally Posted by Ranish625

It happens to me all the time, I think the culprit of this is the attention and greed, the inability to stop in time and slow down!

I think when these things happen it is good bc of the pain u r able to put limits. Sadly some, get rewarded and their pleasure is so great that eventually when they lose, the lesson isn't learnt.

No mate you are human it is not the end of the world.

No man. Its wonderfull. U dont give up to luck

The instinct after losing with kings in a cash game is to fix the unjust result right away. Win it back. Now.

The hard choice is taking a break. Getting your head straight.

Worst poker player in the world? I don't think so. Stupid? Don't think that is it either, first thing I thought was how/why did you lose a $10 all in with a ~40 bank roll. I think it was poor bankroll management and the variance of poker got you. Been guilty of that myself; time to take a break, clear your head, and focus on the positive.

Originally Posted by Spaceman

The mean answer: That's what happens when you don't follow proper bankroll managment. What did you expect when playing half your bankroll in a pot really? Or you believe you would never lose a shove with kings?

The nice answer: If we exclude bankroll managment, you definately are not stupid shoving with pocket kings. The worst player on the world is probably the one who called a shove with Ace rag. Wtf really.. Even at play money they don't do that stuff!


The accurate answer: Someone donking on your kings with ace rag may be hard to swallow, but not a good reason to lose your last 20$. You should control tilt. One way to prevent tilt is exercising proper bankroll managment. Let's say you stopped at 40$ and played maybe 10$ dollars, the bad beat pot would be 5$ dollars. Not enough to tilt you into "I just lost a 2 hours profit and I'm back to zero, I want to quit poker forever, I don't care, I'm shoving bottom pair". You would still have money to play comfortably and not emotionally. And in all probability, you would make even more money, since finding an opponent willing to call a shove with Ace rag, means +ev in the long run.

I really agree here with you, the first thing that came to mind was, what about bankroll management? I like to play poker a lot, but I am definitely not a good poker player myself. Still I did not make any losses, but even a small profit playing poker over the last six months. Bankroll management is the key I would say, although it is really hard to resist playing poker with higher stakes.

Thank you all for your advice ... i start google it for bankroll management to read something about it!!

Poker is not absolute. Anything can happen in a card game. In saying that, some players go nuts when they get an Ace in their hand;no matter the size of the kicker. Many times player will lose with high poker pairs after being called by some one with rags.

In saying that, this player may have won that pot. But, in the long run, playing like that will result in losses over the long run.

Good luck, don't get discouraged. It happens to all poker players.

mange1234

Probably it only had to do with sample size and brm.

heyyyyy, that's my title! There are days that I am the most stupid player on the planet

In principle, you are right, it is very difficult to lose such cards. And the fact that people go to an all in with A 3, that is their business. There are many online poker) Maybe they were drunk, smoke-filled can, I have no idea)

Originally Posted by mackmasterss

heyyyyy, that's my title! There are days that I am the most stupid player on the planet

I'm sorry .... but we have to share this title! For now...

Mentally step back and realize that this is not indicative of you as a player or how smart you are. Let go of this session, in your mind, or it will weigh you down. If you do that you will have better success in the future. Good Luck!!

yesterday, on my pokerstar account, I had $ 100, which I was collecting from scratch with hard work, and finally I lost it for one hour once again, I went to the tilt and asked the same questions

Originally Posted by 8bod8

Fully agree: top prio is to enjoy!
From what you describe, please have a look at BRM Bank Roll Management. If done well, you cannot go broke.
I'm probably worse than you as player, but didn't go broke (yet).
Good Luck (it also help, apart from BRM, study and good cards)

I agree. Bank Roll Management is probably the most important as well as the biggest subject poker players face. We all get bad beats every once and awhile, and on a few of these sites, bad beats are 9x the normal live game ratio, but with the most solid bank Roll Management you will sustain an up trending bankroll with consistency. If you ever had a bad beat that was so sick (which most of them are) that you decide to risk more of a percentage of your bankroll in your next session? That's what bad beats do to most poker players. The human condition is always the dilemma when it comes to long-term survival in the poker world.

As good as you may or may not be, will never be better than math. If it was suited your opponent had 30% equity. Yeah you are a huge favorite; but you are still EXPECTED TO LOOSE A THIRD OF THE TIME.

You are printing money long run but that doesn't mean you can't loose, in fact your situation is kind of a bland everyday cooler its your own fault for not practicing BRM.

adigeamanu. I figured I would post this so you know you have company. This just happened. I had KK on the button. Utg raised to .30. I 3bet to .85. BB 4 bets to 1.45. Utg calls. I 5bet all in for 5.95. They both call. Utg has A6 and BB has AQoff. Ace on the flop and AQ scoops 17 dollar pot. Similar hands have happened way too often this week. sigh

I'm sorry to hear this, but my I'll awnser in 2 ways:

1) Having the best hands pre-flop (ore even just befor the river) doesn't mean you'll win if the opponent has any chance left (even a 1% or less) there "must" be times that they will win!! (Just rules of statistics (a bit of Murphy's law), and when you're the one that has go get the blow it sucks)

2) PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE,,, learn to handle youre bankroll with "BANKROLLMANAGEMENT"; if you've got $20 in youre bankroll you should play $2 games!!!!!!!! (if you lose that $2 and therefore left with $18 you should play $1.5 games,...) This way you can play longer with youre monney and avoid the losses of some bad-playing-lucky-guys(/girls). And the only way to improve youre skills is to play (a lot).

To close this post, look on the other side, lets pretend you're on the downside (ex. you AK opponent AA) and still win, this gives you a rush. If you want to beleve in balance of the universe winning here and losing there is all part of life (sertenly in poker).

Everything has changed after i read something about Bankroll. I dont know if is very helpful but i must share:

Hello, for me you're not the worst player, maybe it s me
But the player who is all in with Ace-3 is even worse than us.
About bankroll, remember that the other players know that too, so boundaries and some use and abuse it against you.

Cash games on888 are rigged to induce betting for their extremely high rake. I see so many aa vs kk where the aa loses, ot 3 in the same where 88 hits. That's poker and on 888 you need to be very disciplined with the all ins.

Well, my guess is you didnt enforce proper bankroll management..

Originally Posted by adigeamanu

A few days ago I made a $ 20 deposit to 888 poker. All right ... I started playing cash. I doubled my money after 2 hours of play. I lost everything in about 10 minutes. How? The bad part that I deconcentrated after I lost an all in for about $ 10, I KK vs A3. From this moment everything has been ruined. My state of mind, focus have gone ..... my question always sounds in my mind ..... how can you play all in with A3 ???? At this point ... I have no more fun playing poker. How long ... I do not know .... I'm disappointed. Am I stupid or the worst player in the world ???:confus ed::confus ed:

Play in freerolls untill you are comfortable in the way you play. Then deposit money or mabye
you can make a bank roll by playing freerolls.
You never know.

Originally Posted by adigeamanu

If you read well, my bankroll was $ 40 !!! I call all in with KK in my hand. He had A 3 ... total pot was 21 $. What did you do? Folded?

You need to work on tilt control, first and foremost. This is Poker, and esssss happens. You got it in good, and he had just three outs and got there.

Happened last night: opened with pocket jacks (my fourth favorite hand, BTW) and Fish #1 calls behind. He has ~1/2 stack left. Fish #2 comes over the top for 4X. I'm pretty sure I'm good here, so I stuff it in to iso, and both call. Pocket jacks are good, and these fish have each other blocked. One has ( Ac,Tc ) (so his call wasn't as horrible as usual) and the other has ( A,8-o ) Two outs: that's pretty much all they had except for very rare flopped straights and flushes. That $#&@! ace rolls off on the flop. Nothing you can do about that other than hope these two yutzes never run out of money.

GII good, and you've done your job. They want to make -EV calls, well, bully for them when they hit their miracle card. They'll give everything they won off you back with interest. ESSSSSS like this is what keeps 'em coming back and back to lose a whole lot more over the next days and weeks. If the fish didn't win some, they wouldn't play.

well ill tell you that i would consider playing A3 if im the caller to the all in and only one opponent will challenge me and i can cover the all in and still have 20 big blinds left if i lose and after all that it still would depend on who was going all in. But u should consider going all in or not depending on your opponent. KK although being a very strong pre flop hand a pair of aces still beats you so. All in is really for the best hand and skillfully using to win hands you would lose if you didnt bet big. But any two hole cards can be beat after the cards are dealt. Maybe dont push all in on every monster. And to answer your question you are not stupid cause in poker you can do everything right and still lose. I tend to live by the motto play the competition not the cards

I literally wish I could knock myself out after making a stupid play. I know that bad plays for me is all just a lack of concentration on my part. What's crazy is I can tell when I'm going to make a bad play cause it's usually when I can't seem to get decent hole cards for a while or I make a good play but get beat even though odds were in my favor. Even though I can feel a bad play coming I never can stop it LOL

You're not stupid, you just didn't use Bankroll Management. $20 isn't enough to withstand the variance swings in this game. Best of luck.

R