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KMC1828

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Im sorry i dont have the HH for these 2 hands, but i remember them just fine and unbiasedly.

hand 1: i have about 10k chips, villian has 4k chips. im in MP, villian is in SB (blinds are 600)

i get AK and raise to 3900 because there were 3 calls in front of me. villain reraises all in like 300 more with KJs of course i call.

flop comes 2 spades. turn is her J. river is irrelevant.

in my eyes, its quite obvious that i either have KJ dominated like i did, or the person was WAY behind with KJ in the sense that i either had JJ QQ KK or AA. im not sure how they are calling this all in, maybe someone can explain it to me if theres something besides them being a donk that could have induced the call.

hand 2. i have roughly 10k chips again, this time blinds are 1200 w. antes.

i get dealt AJ in MP with 1 caller in front of me with about 2k more chips than i do. i simply go all in. a big stack with about 60k calls my all in, and then the original caller reraises to him all in, of course the big stack calls.

big stack has A8 and the original caller has QT.

the original caller gets his T, nothing else is realy relevant other than that there was a K on the flop with that T giving me a gutshot.

i REALLY dont understand this play because this is extremely deep in the tournament, 23 people left out of 445. Why are they even limping with QT to begin with in E/M P, and why is calling/reraising the all ins even a thought here? its obvious we have QT beat, why put yourself in the situation where you need to out draw?

both of these situations could probably easily be summed up by saying "they were donks... that was a 2.25 buyin wow they were just donks", but im looking to find out if there was something else that could make them call with those hands that have missed.
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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both of these situations could probably easily be summed up by saying "they were donks... that was a 2.25 buyin wow they were just donks", but im looking to find out if there was something else that could make them call with those hands that have missed.

no, you're right, they were donks. don't start falling into the trap of overthinking these things. :)
 
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full tilt poker Game #3507355201: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (26270153), Table 7 - 30/60 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:37:55 ET - 2007/09/09
Seat 1: belleanana77 (4,335)
Seat 2: bigchefdan (2,725)
Seat 3: plmaish (1,690)
Seat 4: mixmaster_p (2,825)
Seat 5: NinZen (2,960)
Seat 6: sck012 (3,025)
Seat 7: KROUZING (6,675)
Seat 8: pokerl0w (1,230), is sitting out
Seat 9: Break17 (2,205)
belleanana77 posts the small blind of 30
bigchefdan posts the big blind of 60
The button is in seat #9
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Break17 [Ac Ad]
plmaish folds
mixmaster_p folds
NinZen folds
sck012 folds
KROUZING calls 60
pokerl0w folds
Break17 raises to 270
belleanana77 has 15 seconds left to act
belleanana77 folds
bigchefdan folds
KROUZING calls 210
*** FLOP *** [7s 6s Kc]
KROUZING bets 300
Break17 raises to 1,080
KROUZING calls 780
*** TURN *** [7s 6s Kc] [9d]
KROUZING checks
Break17 bets 855, and is all in
KROUZING calls 855
Break17 shows [Ac Ad]
KROUZING shows [Js 8s]
*** RIVER *** [7s 6s Kc 9d] [2s]
Break17 shows a pair of Aces
KROUZING shows a flush, Jack high
KROUZING wins the pot (4,500) with a flush, Jack high
Break17 stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,500 | Rake 0
Board: [7s 6s Kc 9d 2s]
Seat 1: belleanana77 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: bigchefdan (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: plmaish didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: mixmaster_p didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: NinZen didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: sck012 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: KROUZING showed [Js 8s] and won (4,500) with a flush, Jack high
Seat 8: pokerl0w didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Break17 (button) showed [Ac Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces




same thing goes with that one. played correctly?
 
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You played it just fine. You got your money in with the best of it. Your opponent only about a 33% of winning the hand and he hit. It happens and it hurts.
 
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You played it just fine. You got your money in with the best of it. Your opponent only about a 33% of winning the hand and he hit. It happens and it hurts.


as he said. in the long run u win.
 
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wow, bad beat nice playing with those aces through
 
KMC1828

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is this a disguised bad beat post?

nooooo its a question whether there is a method to the madness. did you not read my text that went along with the HH's?
 
OzExorcist

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All of them run firmly against the Gap Concept, so I'd put them into the "just donks" category - the KJs might be borderline, depending on your table image.
 
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