This is a discussion on 3/6 low limit fundamentals shall we have a discussion? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Iv'e been playing limit for 6 years now I was once a terrible noob that quickly progressed into a decent Amateur. Now I consider my
3/6 low limit fundamentals shall we have a discussion?
Join Date: Jan 2017
3/6 low limit fundamentals shall we have a discussion?
Iv'e been playing limit for 6 years now I was once a terrible noob that quickly progressed into a decent Amateur. Now I consider my self a semi pro and would like to discuss the fundamentals of this game and get some feed back.
I believe check raising is the strongest play in low limit and free cards against the right players can make this game very easy. However the main conundrum in this game is aggression it will kill your bankroll faster than anything else and regardless of what any pro's will tell you this game is a reverse poker strategy.
In a Nut shell this game is still poker and not a bingo fest and while raising with ak off in position rules it still must be played with caution and not aggression post flop most of the time. Flops like 4-9-2 can be bet and continuation bet and often hold up on showdown as the best hand. Flops of A-j-4 with two spades,or A-5-2 often spell trouble and should only bet c betted to make a medium pots then checked call to showdown based on the fact you will lose 50% or more of the time. Essentially aj-aq-ak with spiked aces are no better than you holding 10-2 and flopping 10-7-4 2 suits that you don't have it's essential to understand the flush here..
Here is a list of my top 10 hands to play in 3/6 randomize these hands and you can kill this game
9 10-7 off
10 35 off.
You can see the trend here that all hands regardless should never be played suited unless it's ax to the nuts it's a huge factor in this game. Ironically all the other hands not on my list really aren't very strong in this game. Like qk not great even suited aj-q-j all average hands that suck. The pp are great in this game for sets, but because of the extra wide range of hands in this game by the other weird players will make a pair very unlikely to be good. Here is an example of your hand ranges your up against
You have 99
all opponents ranges j8-j4-j-6-k8-k9-k4-ak-a-2-a3 any ace... Also 7-5-10-4 etc.. As you can see here the range is so extreme that you must actually flop a set or hold a pp of 10-10 or better to feel good about having overs.
Give me some feed back here as you can see the range is wide multliway pots vs nl that has a much much tighter range even against agro players..
For some this makes this game unbeatable,but for me I can exploit the idiots and almost always have a plus session however walking away is a different story
Sounds like you got your strategy figured out. I 100% agree if you sit and wait for big hands and play aggressively with them that you'll end up broke. I actually love it when these players sit down now. I limp and take a look at the flop way more than any other game. I play for straights and flushes and will chase all way down to the river if needed to snap off others of course at times I've been snapped off.
re: Poker & 3/6 low limit fundamentals shall we have a discussion?
That is an interesting list of playable hands. I'm not sure how tight/loose the games you play in are, which I think makes a big difference. My limit experience is in live games, where I play the games are often fairly tight and reg heavy, the strategy I ended up with is pretty situational dependent:
The games I play (or played as I don't do it too much any more) seem to have a fairly large number of nit-tight fit/fold regs, who I tend to try to blind steal on a lot and play a moderate amount of hands (moderate strength hands that draw well) aggressively post-flop on draw heavy run-outs. I've found a surprising number of these players will fold a large pair to multi-streets of aggression on draw heavy boards (as long as you don't do it too often) and than complain that they always get sucked out on. That is pretty much the only spot that I would bluff as other than the nit regs people seem to hate to fold. Other than that they play pretty fit/fold so you can kind of tell where they're at. Some never fold, they take a good starting hand to the bitter end no matter what, guaranteed to call down if you hit a draw.
Against people that are playing lots of hands/draws I tend to tighten up and play a little more straightforward. Sure you get sucked out on sometimes, but you have to make people pay for their draws.
How loose/tight are the games you play:
- Average number of pre-flop callers?
- Approx. percentage of hands that get 3-bet pre-flop?
The games I'm used to unless there is a early limper, averages somewhere around 3 calling a single raise pre-flop and 3-bets are fairly rare - usually an indication that someone has a monster.
Edit: I guess I should add I never got to the point that I was 'crushing' the game, but had a small but consistent profit.
You never really crush these games instead you act like a rake grinding 100 dollar wins that's good. One thing to remember about this game is it's all about implied odds! Say you have 4-8 off suit and 6 people enter the pot capped,well one would thing fold but no in any position you must enter these pots with any 2 cards besides say 7-2 because even a pair can trip up winning you a pig pot regardless of your terrible hand odds. Unless of course you flop 4-aq 3 spades and you have a club and a heart and it's being raised then there would be a good time to fold. Flops like 56-J 4-a-k or 8-q-6 are all good to continue to the river in most cases whereas in no limit you would be a fish.
On the flip side hands like KK-AA and qj on boards like 56-j for the over pairs and qj-5 suited for your 2 pair are good hands to re raise and make people pay up for weak draws in only 3 way pots.