Trip Aces on river, reraised to, smooth call or push??

hott_estelle

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pokerstars Game #9408110756: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/13 - 21:38:49 (ET)
Table 'Repsolda II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: LoST-USA-FL ($28.20 in chips)
Seat 2: smc762 ($30.05 in chips)
Seat 3: nolvicrudie ($49.70 in chips)
Seat 4: odi385 ($51.05 in chips)
Seat 5: cat53 ($15.30 in chips)
Seat 6: toads98wdc ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle ($39.70 in chips)
Seat 8: TyKaLOo ($14.95 in chips)
Seat 9: texas_rottie ($48.80 in chips)
TyKaLOo: posts small blind $0.25
texas_rottie: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [Ad Td]
LoST-USA-FL: folds
smc762: raises $1.50 to $2
nolvicrudie: folds
odi385: folds
cat53: folds
toads98wdc: folds
hott_estelle: calls $2
TyKaLOo: folds
texas_rottie: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Qd Ah]
smc762: bets $2
hott_estelle: calls $2
*** TURN *** [9s Qd Ah] [7h]
smc762: bets $2
hott_estelle: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [9s Qd Ah 7h] [Ac]
smc762: bets $2
hott_estelle: raises $4.50 to $6.50
smc762: raises $5.50 to $12
hott_estelle: ???

Do we push over the top here or just call or fold?? Are we missing value by not raising here, or is that the right play??
 
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alexanderwoo1

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I would just call because he could have a Full boat, or even a bigger kicker.
 
Bombjack

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Push?? What's he calling with that you beat? He's played the hand pretty weirdly but unless you think he's on a total bluff, you should fold.
 
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Tough to fold here. But a call leaves you putting about 1/3 your stack in the hand, right?

$2 pre flop, $2 flop,$2 turn, $6.50 on river for $12.50 total invested you started the hand with $39? leaves you with $26-$27?

if you call $5.50 more you're down to $20-$21?

$30 pot roughly? $5.50 more to see with trips? hard not to just call.

you could be looking at a boat, in which you only lost 1/3 not too bad forholding trip Aces.:(

He could be hoping for a split too w A rag and you got him beat.:)

Pushing all in here is questionable, I think you got good value for the hand.:D

BTW what happened?
 
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Definitely a no to any kind of reraise here. Most hands he could have pretty much all beat you. With this much in the pot and seeing his cards for information its worth the call. I think he has QQ, AQ, 99 or AK. Maybe he thinks you have a Q and he has KK but hes not calling your allin with KK. KK could also explain his 2$ bets cause he was afraid of the A. there are a few others he could have like Ax but i think those are most likely.
 
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Push?? What's he calling with that you beat? He's played the hand pretty weirdly but unless you think he's on a total bluff, you should fold.

^^^ This. Never ever push or re-raise here! I shudder at the thought of it. Even a call is questionable. If you know the guy's a decent player, it's a fold, because under those circumstances you're beat here well over 95% of the time.

But without reads, or with reads that the guy's a screw up who doesn't know what he's doing, you're getting such a good price that blah, guess it's a call. I don't know what we could beat that fits his line, even a donk line, except a weaker suited A that doesn't make a full house (again, only if he's a big ol' donk).
 
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Combuboom is spot on...as usual.
 
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We're behind more hands than we're ahead of here. This is a really standard call (I can't fold this given the pot odds).
 
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PokerStars Game #9408110756: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/13 - 21:38:49 (ET)
Table 'Repsolda II' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: LoST-USA-FL ($28.20 in chips)
Seat 2: smc762 ($30.05 in chips)
Seat 3: nolvicrudie ($49.70 in chips)
Seat 4: odi385 ($51.05 in chips)
Seat 5: cat53 ($15.30 in chips)
Seat 6: toads98wdc ($21.50 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle ($39.70 in chips)
Seat 8: TyKaLOo ($14.95 in chips)
Seat 9: texas_rottie ($48.80 in chips)
TyKaLOo: posts small blind $0.25
texas_rottie: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [Ad Td]
LoST-USA-FL: folds
smc762: raises $1.50 to $2
nolvicrudie: folds
odi385: folds
cat53: folds
toads98wdc: folds
hott_estelle: calls $2
TyKaLOo: folds
texas_rottie: folds
*** FLOP *** [9s Qd Ah]
smc762: bets $2
hott_estelle: calls $2
*** TURN *** [9s Qd Ah] [7h]
smc762: bets $2
hott_estelle: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [9s Qd Ah 7h] [Ac]
smc762: bets $2
hott_estelle: raises $4.50 to $6.50
smc762: raises $5.50 to $12
hott_estelle: calls $5.50
*** SHOW DOWN ***
smc762: shows [7c 9c] (two pair, Aces and Nines)
hott_estelle: shows [Ad Td] (three of a kind, Aces)
hott_estelle collected $34.95 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $36.75 | Rake $1.80
Board [9s Qd Ah 7h Ac]
Seat 1: LoST-USA-FL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: smc762 showed [7c 9c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Nines
Seat 3: nolvicrudie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: odi385 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cat53 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: toads98wdc folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (button) showed [Ad Td] and won ($34.95) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 8: TyKaLOo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: texas_rottie (big blind) folded before Flop


We're behind more hands than we're ahead of here. This is a really standard call (I can't fold this given the pot odds).

My thoughts exactly, but afterwards I thought I might have lost some value by not raising. I guess I wasn't thinking straight, because now that I look at it, it's an obv call. There was absolutely no way I was folding now because of the pot odds, and I thought I was ahead at this point.
 
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WOW! either that guy is a complete idiot or he is using this to set up the table to get calls down the road.
 
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He said afterwards that he didn't see the board pair at the end there, and then called himself and idiot.

I don't know whether to believe him, or think that he was tryin to set up the table for later, but I do know he busted about a few hands later and reloaded to about $30. I stayed only a few more minutes after that because I had doubled up by then.
 
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well that actually did cross my mind and does make alot of sense. He still played his hand horribly. You think if he made a big bet on turn like he should of you call?
 
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you played it pretty well, I would have been tempted to push, but I would have tried to recall the previous pots he had been in and what sort of player they were. Were there any reads or indications that he might play such a weak hand so strongly?

BTW U R SMOKIN HOT!!!
 
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Definitely would not have folded. Trip aces seemed pretty good and due to his odd betting I would have considered a raise but most likely in that situation a call would be the right option.
 
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