TPTK in reraised pot vs Turn shove

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bw07507

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I swear to god I cannot beat 10NL, I have no trouble at 25NL, but for some reason 10NL just perplexes me

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pokerstars GAME #16025987088: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.05/$0.10) - 2008/03/16 - 16:24:55 (ET)
Table 'Helio III' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Krijgh_76 ($10.40 in chips)
Seat 2: Vadius ($9 in chips)
Seat 3: bw07507 ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 4: stylexxxx ($5.60 in chips)
Seat 5: TW0268 ($19.55 in chips)
Seat 6: LaMusaraigne ($11.45 in chips)
Seat 7: mutesoo ($10.05 in chips)
Seat 8: Marelo_! ($5.75 in chips)
Seat 9: brootoos ($6.75 in chips)
Vadius: posts small blind $0.05
bw07507: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bw07507 [Ac Kd]
stylexxxx: folds
TW0268: folds
LaMusaraigne: folds
mutesoo: folds
Marelo_!: folds
brootoos: calls $0.10
Krijgh_76: raises $0.20 to $0.30
Vadius: folds
bw07507: raises $0.90 to $1.20
brootoos: folds
Krijgh_76: calls $0.90
*** FLOP *** [As 8s 4d]
bw07507: bets $1.75
Krijgh_76: raises $1.75 to $3.50
bw07507: calls $1.75
*** TURN *** [As 8s 4d] [Th]
bw07507: checks
Krijgh_76: bets $5.70 and is all-in
bw07507: ?

What is his range here?? Does he call my reraise preflop with or 88 or 44 or even playing a tricky AA?? I once heard dbitel say hes never folding TPTK in a reraised pot, is this true for this situation? Should I have just put him in on the flop?
 
NineLions

NineLions

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I dunno; dbitel was playing 6 max higher limits, so there's more aggression with wider ranges, but the ranges are more focussed.

Here, the ranges are a lot more unpredictable. I wouldn't be surprise to see AK/AQ/AJ thinking you've defended your blind, c-bet the flop, and checked turn because you have KK/QQ/JJ/KQ.
 
ChuckTs

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Yeah regarding what bitel said, that applies much more to 6-max than FR since in general players are more aggressive and will also stack slightly lighter since they'll expecting you to be more aggressive as well.

This is an absolute stack and I probably just get it in on the flop. Plenty of smaller aces/bluffs/FDs in his range to make it a standard call.
 
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TamasAA

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out of curiosity what did he have?...my guess is he called your re-raise (wrongly probably)pre-flop with A10 suited...but im a bit of a newbie.

would be sick if so.

id have shuffed on the flop.
 
blankoblanco

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once you just call the minraise and then check to him, you've more or less "induced" him to make a move, or simply to think AQ/AJ is good. you have to call the turn. he's representing a pretty narrow range of hands that beat you
 
momoney2

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As I read the HH, I was expecting that after you just called the raise on the flop, you were going with a stop-n-go if the turn looked safe (no spade). His min raise felt like a flush draw or a weaker Ace. I don't put him on AA's because I would have expected a re-raise pre-flop after your re-raise from the BB.
For me, I sometimes play a little cautiously, so I like the call on the flop. But once the turn came looking pretty safe, I would have pushed all-in.
If I lost, I would have just reloaded and got back into the battle.

So, what did you do? Did you call his all-in? Did you fold? Did he show his cards?
 
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Bentheman87

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You should have put him all in on the flop since there's so many draws out there. The turn was safe since it didn't complete any draws so you should have shoved all in.
 
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