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stormswa

stormswa

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ok guys here is a hand I played and want your input on it, I will put my thought process in red.


Full Tilt Poker Game #2830283044: Table Laveta (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - Pot Limit Hold'em - 11:08:36 ET - 2007/07/02
Seat 1: x-Who Me-x ($35.45)
Seat 2: Ken48 ($10.50)
Seat 3: jasonbyron ($39.10)
Seat 4: BawlzDeep ($26.20), is sitting out
Seat 5: stormswa ($36.30)
Seat 6: jonny1722 ($25)
jonny1722 posts the small blind of $0.10
x-Who Me-x posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stormswa [8s 6s]
Ken48 calls $0.25
jasonbyron folds
stormswa raises to $1.10
I do this a lot when someone limps under the gun, its such a weak play.
jonny1722 folds
x-Who Me-x folds
Ken48 calls $0.85
*** FLOP *** [4s 4d Ks]
Ken48 checks
stormswa checks
I check here for pot control, I have position on him and dont want to play a giant pot for a flush draw.

*** TURN *** [4s 4d Ks] [Ts]
Ken48 bets $2
stormswa raises to $8.55
Ken48 calls $6.55

standard 3 bet here.
*** RIVER *** [4s 4d Ks Ts] [5d]
Ken48 checks
stormswa bets $9.80
Ken48 calls $0.85, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $8.95 returned to stormswa
regardless of river we have to put him in.

*** SHOW DOWN ***
stormswa shows [8s 6s] a flush, King high
Ken48 mucks TcJs is what he had
stormswa wins the pot ($20.30) with a flush, King high
Ken48 is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21.35 | Rake $1.05
Board: [4s 4d Ks Ts 5d]
Seat 1: x-Who Me-x (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Ken48 mucked [Tc Js] - two pair, Tens and Fours
Seat 3: jasonbyron didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: BawlzDeep is sitting out
Seat 5: stormswa (button) showed [8s 6s] and won ($20.30) with a flush, King high
Seat 6: jonny1722 (small blind) folded before the Flop
 
aliengenius

aliengenius

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It's as good a flop as you can hope for given our holdings. But, we were not playing our cards, remember? The raise was because of his weak limp preflop. You have to continuation bet regardless of the flop if you are going to play like that. Here we have the added bonus that the cont bet is also a semi bluff in the event we are called. Bet, take it down, nice play.

Ok, we check, "dont want to play a giant pot for a flush draw"-- why are you now playing your cards when before you were playing your opponent/position? If you think the pot is going to be "giant" after your continuation bet, then you are raising too much preflop or are playing with too short of stacks.

Ten rolls off on the turn, and our passive (limp pre) opponent BETS, and bets most of the pot. Pretty clear that the turn hit him in my opinion, therefore good raise (we are not going to fold our flush, don't want a single high spade to draw for free, and are likely to get called by the "made" hand of our opponent).
 
Emperor IX

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I'm pretty much in total agreement with AG there.
 
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jeffred1111

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I would c-bet on the flop even with our flush draw for two reasons:

a) We raised him preflop and thus can get him to sweat a bit if he is also on the flush draw (represent a King for example)
b) We aren't sure that either of us will hit by the turn and if he checks, another bet might get him to fold before showdown if we don't complete our flush.

But checking here is also good if you're sure that villain can't pull a move on us (C/R to price us out of our flush draw)
 
arkadiy

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Personally I think you got lucky with hitting the flush, should've bet him post-flop to try and get him to fold. You're flush also isn't exactly high, but then his chip stack isn't hurting you very badly so...not sure what else to say :)
 
skoldpadda

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Agree need to c-bet flop. Chances are that didn't hit him and you can take it down right there with no risk. He played so weak PF, can't imagine a CR would be possible. If he calls, you have outs and will likely get a pseudo-free turn card.
 
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