Tell me what I did wrong here



Cardschat Elite
full tilt poker Game #820063865: Table Williamsport - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:48:12 ET - 2006/07/21
Seat 1: unluck ($3.20)
Seat 2: ZoWnX ($3.80)
Seat 3: guitarguy178 ($13.05)
Seat 4: Kent44 ($7.20)
Seat 5: edsup23 ($5.15)
Seat 6: Espe59 ($9.75)
Seat 7: CrazyJoeDavola ($22.65)
Seat 8: Roomario ($2.65)
Seat 9: Effexor ($7.10)
ZoWnX posts the small blind of $0.05
guitarguy178 posts the big blind of $0.10
CrazyJoeDavola: wow, gr8 trip
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Effexor [Kh Qd]
Kent44 calls $0.10
edsup23 calls $0.10
Espe59 folds
CrazyJoeDavola calls $0.10
Roomario folds
Effexor calls $0.10
unluck folds
ZoWnX calls $0.05
guitarguy178 checks
*** FLOP *** [7s Kd 8c]
CrazyJoeDavola: we usually just stay 5-6 nights
ZoWnX checks
guitarguy178: I dont think ill run out of stuff to do
guitarguy178 checks
Kent44 checks
edsup23 checks
CrazyJoeDavola: no way
CrazyJoeDavola checks
Effexor bets $0.40
guitarguy178: im usually 4-5 nights
ZoWnX folds
guitarguy178 calls $0.40
Kent44 folds
edsup23 folds
CrazyJoeDavola folds
*** TURN *** [7s Kd 8c] [4d]
guitarguy178 checks
Effexor bets $1
guitarguy178 calls $1
*** RIVER *** [7s Kd 8c 4d] [2d]
guitarguy178 checks
Effexor bets $2
guitarguy178 raises to $6
Effexor calls $3.60, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $0.40 returned to guitarguy178
*** SHOW DOWN ***
guitarguy178 shows [Td Jd] (a flush, King high)
Effexor mucks
guitarguy178 wins the pot ($13.15) with a flush, King high
Effexor is sitting out
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $14.60 | Rake $1.45
Board: [7s Kd 8c 4d 2d]
Seat 1: unluck (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: ZoWnX (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: guitarguy178 (big blind) showed [Td Jd] and won ($13.15) with a flush, King high
Seat 4: Kent44 folded on the Flop
Seat 5: edsup23 folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Espe59 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: CrazyJoeDavola folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Roomario didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Effexor mucked [Kh Qd] - a pair of Kings


You could have checked the river since there was a flush on. Bit tricky to put him on that though because called the flop presumably on the strength of a gutshot straight, which turned into a flush draw on the turn.

Also possible the other guy has AK or is slowplaying 2 pair or trips. You need a pretty rock solid hand to bet on the river. Good trap by him.


Something I learned from JL which has proved very helpful in cash games with donkeys who love checking the nuts or a strong hand on the river:

Check hands with marginal strength on the river.

KQ for top pair, 2nd best kicker is a strong hand for sure, but it isn't strong enough to bet out into a player who has cold-called you down to the river in a limped pot. He could have anything; 78, 88, 77, K8/K7, AK even if they're super passive (this is .05/.10 after all) all lead you, and basically you have to take any hand into consideration. This is micro-limit, and it is a limped pot. People will limp with anything, and will make weak slowplays (like this could have possibly been) all the time. This time he didn't slowplay, but rather called down a weak draw which turned out to be a strong hand on the river.

I also want to say that it was not a good trap by OP. Checking the river is almost always a bad play when you hold a big hand like a flush or better. Considering Effexor was showing considerable strength throughout the hand, it's not only not guaranteed that he will bet the river or call a check-raise, but it's also highly likely that he'll call a river lead into him. Leading out is a much better play unless of course you're %99 sure that he'll bet out behind you.


Cardschat Elite
Thanks for the input, lesson learned. I've started checking on the river on marginal hands.


Suckout Queen
Also one thing from the CC tip board...if its good enough to stay with its good enough to raise with. Maybe a little more juice PF would have helped.


Hi Tom,

Don´t know about we all suck but some of the hands I have been dealt lately do.

Could you ask your friend GOD to ensure that next time I am dealt pocket AA´s they actually hold up, and please ensure that Greg Raymer wins the wsop as I have a lot of $´s riding on him.

Have a nice day



Let's see...

No raise preflop with KQ? You were in late position with no riases and there were already three limpers! I would have bet more after the flop. Maybe slightly more than the pot, like .80 or a $1. Once the second diamond hit, it was clear your opponent was going to chse the flush no matter what you bet (maybe he would fold if you went all in but we all know that wouldn't be a good move). Checking on the river would have been wise when the third diamond came up. Save yourself some money.
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