The reason I`m not playing poker anymore

Ronaldadio

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Not fixed, nothing else, its the pure luck factor I can`t stand.

Good luck to you all, have a good life and I might cya all again sometime ;)

This is the last 2 hands I played on Pstars (My last 2 poker hands ever!!!). My pre flop play is debatable, but then...I won`t even bore u with the previous hands that were beaten (KK v 88, AA v 44, AK v AQ, the list goes on!!!)

PokerStars Game #8865984992: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/03/12 - 12:34:35 (ET) Table 'Vala III' 10-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: skyworldln ($102.50 in chips) Seat 2: ronaldadio ($6 in chips) Seat 3: 4708romain ($51 in chips) Seat 4: jasonodo ($48.75 in chips) Seat 5: Gina1988 ($46.50 in chips) Seat 6: miracle card ($16 in chips) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules ($49 in chips) Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan ($16.50 in chips) Seat 9: Thulsadoon ($40 in chips) Seat 10: Henry17 ($21.75 in chips) Zoren Elvaan: posts small blind $0.50
Thulsadoon: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronaldadio [9h Qh]
Henry17: folds
skyworldln: folds
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $2
4708romain: folds
jasonodo: folds
Gina1988: folds
miracle card: folds
O'DoyleRules: folds
ronaldadio said, "says it all???"
Zoren Elvaan: calls $1.50
Thulsadoon: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 7s Td]
Zoren Elvaan: checks
ronaldadio: bets $1
Zoren Elvaan: calls $1
*** TURN *** [8d 7s Td] [6h]
Zoren Elvaan: checks
ronaldadio: bets $2
Zoren Elvaan: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [8d 7s Td 6h] [Ad]
Zoren Elvaan: bets $2
ronaldadio: calls $1 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Zoren Elvaan: shows [3d 5d] (a flush, Ace high)
ronaldadio: shows [9h Qh] (a straight, Six to Ten) Zoren Elvaan collected $12.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13 | Rake $0.50
Board [8d 7s Td 6h Ad]
Seat 1: skyworldln folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ronaldadio showed [9h Qh] and lost with a straight, Six to Ten Seat 3: 4708romain folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jasonodo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Gina1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: miracle card folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan (small blind) showed [3d 5d] and won ($12.50) with a flush, Ace high Seat 9: Thulsadoon (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 10: Henry17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
*********** # 2 **************
PokerStars Game #8865974190: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/03/12 - 12:33:30 (ET) Table 'Vala III' 10-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: skyworldln ($102.50 in chips) Seat 2: ronaldadio ($17 in chips) Seat 3: 4708romain ($51 in chips) Seat 4: jasonodo ($48.75 in chips) Seat 5: Gina1988 ($46.50 in chips) Seat 6: miracle card ($16 in chips) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules ($38 in chips) Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan ($17.50 in chips) Seat 9: ventie ($103.50 in chips) Seat 10: Henry17 ($21.75 in chips)
O'DoyleRules: posts small blind $0.50
Zoren Elvaan: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronaldadio [Tc Kc]
ventie: folds
Henry17: folds
skyworldln: folds
ronaldadio: calls $1
4708romain: folds
jasonodo: folds
Gina1988: folds
miracle card: folds
O'DoyleRules: calls $0.50
Zoren Elvaan: checks
*** FLOP *** [Th Kd 3c]
O'DoyleRules: bets $1
Zoren Elvaan: folds
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $2
O'DoyleRules: raises $1 to $3
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
O'DoyleRules: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Th Kd 3c] [Qh]
ventie leaves the table
O'DoyleRules: bets $2
ronaldadio: raises $2 to $4
O'DoyleRules: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Th Kd 3c Qh] [8h]
Thulsadoon joins the table at seat #9
O'DoyleRules: checks
ronaldadio: bets $2
O'DoyleRules: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ronaldadio: shows [Tc Kc] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
O'DoyleRules: shows [Ks Qd] (two pair, Kings and Queens) O'DoyleRules collected $22 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23 | Rake $1
Board [Th Kd 3c Qh 8h]
Seat 1: skyworldln folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ronaldadio showed [Tc Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens Seat 3: 4708romain folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jasonodo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Gina1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: miracle card (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules (small blind) showed [Ks Qd] and won ($22) with two pair, Kings and Queens Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 9: ventie folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: Henry17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
Dorkus Malorkus

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Dealt to ronaldadio [9h Qh]
Henry17: folds
skyworldln: folds
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $2

??????????

Dealt to ronaldadio [Tc Kc]
ventie: folds
Henry17: folds
skyworldln: folds
ronaldadio: calls $1

?????????????
 
tenbob

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??????????????????????????????

Don`t think I understand Chris.

Hence the reason your not winning, pretty straightforward wtf are you doing. Its not even questionable pre-flop play its ??? wtf ???
 
Ronaldadio

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Fold preflop, fold preflop.

Easier said than done!!!

When u have sat and waited for your premium hands, seen them busted one after the other, what else can u do? Wait again to see them busted again???

What are u all trying to say, u only ever play premium hands preflop???
 
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I see 1 reason rite away,,, you are playing Limit poker, in limit poker they will call with anything and Out Draw you,, In No Limit, the advantage is you can push them out, not always though, sometimes you have to fire 3 bullets to get someone to fold, try playing No Limit for a while and see how you do, i Only play no limit, and thats just 1 reason rite there,
gl>>>>>>>>buck
 
stormswa

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Easier said than done!!!

When u have sat and waited for your premium hands, seen them busted one after the other, what else can u do? Wait again to see them busted again???

What are u all trying to say, u only ever play premium hands preflop???


there is like tons of factors when you pick your hands you are playing, my guess is you are only playing quality top 10 hands. Do you ever consider your position or your table image? Do you ever button steal? Do you ever play back at someone? your cards shouldn't matter in those instances.

My guess is no to the questions, playing less then quality hands alot of factors need to go into that. From how you are talking im guessing limit poker might be better for you. You really need to shell out $125 and get the cardrunners video's, the cash game videos are amazing and they actually play a LAG style but 3 bet alot and never float that much.

Alot is advanced strategy that might be a little past where you are, I didn't go through your hands but im guessing your bet amounts were terrible. You should watch some of Brian Towson's video's he is amazing NL player.
 
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Easier said than done!!!

When u have sat and waited for your premium hands, seen them busted one after the other, what else can u do? Wait again to see them busted again???

What are u all trying to say, u only ever play premium hands preflop???
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PokerStars Game #8865984992: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/03/12 - 12:34:35 (ET) Table 'Vala III' 10-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: skyworldln ($102.50 in chips) Seat 2: ronaldadio ($6 in chips) Seat 3: 4708romain ($51 in chips) Seat 4: jasonodo ($48.75 in chips) Seat 5: Gina1988 ($46.50 in chips) Seat 6: miracle card ($16 in chips) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules ($49 in chips) Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan ($16.50 in chips) Seat 9: Thulsadoon ($40 in chips) Seat 10: Henry17 ($21.75 in chips) Zoren Elvaan: posts small blind $0.50
Thulsadoon: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronaldadio [9h Qh]
Henry17: folds
skyworldln: folds
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $2
4708romain: folds
jasonodo: folds
Gina1988: folds
miracle card: folds
O'DoyleRules: folds
ronaldadio said, "says it all???"
Zoren Elvaan: calls $1.50
Thulsadoon: folds
*** FLOP *** [8d 7s Td]
Zoren Elvaan: checks
ronaldadio: bets $1
Zoren Elvaan: calls $1
*** TURN *** [8d 7s Td] 6♥
Zoren Elvaan: checks
ronaldadio: bets $2
Zoren Elvaan: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [8d 7s Td 6h] A♦
Zoren Elvaan: bets $2
ronaldadio: calls $1 and is all-in
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Zoren Elvaan: shows [3d 5d] (a flush, Ace high)
ronaldadio: shows [9h Qh] (a straight, Six to Ten) Zoren Elvaan collected $12.50 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13 | Rake $0.50
Board [8d 7s Td 6h Ad]
Seat 1: skyworldln folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ronaldadio showed [9h Qh] and lost with a straight, Six to Ten Seat 3: 4708romain folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jasonodo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Gina1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: miracle card folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan (small blind) showed [3d 5d] and won ($12.50) with a flush, Ace high Seat 9: Thulsadoon (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 10: Henry17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
*********** # 2 **************
PokerStars Game #8865974190: Hold'em Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/03/12 - 12:33:30 (ET) Table 'Vala III' 10-max Seat #6 is the button Seat 1: skyworldln ($102.50 in chips) Seat 2: ronaldadio ($17 in chips) Seat 3: 4708romain ($51 in chips) Seat 4: jasonodo ($48.75 in chips) Seat 5: Gina1988 ($46.50 in chips) Seat 6: miracle card ($16 in chips) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules ($38 in chips) Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan ($17.50 in chips) Seat 9: ventie ($103.50 in chips) Seat 10: Henry17 ($21.75 in chips)
O'DoyleRules: posts small blind $0.50
Zoren Elvaan: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ronaldadio [Tc Kc]
ventie: folds
Henry17: folds
skyworldln: folds
ronaldadio: calls $1
4708romain: folds
jasonodo: folds
Gina1988: folds
miracle card: folds
O'DoyleRules: calls $0.50
Zoren Elvaan: checks
*** FLOP *** [Th Kd 3c]
O'DoyleRules: bets $1
Zoren Elvaan: folds
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $2
O'DoyleRules: raises $1 to $3
ronaldadio: raises $1 to $4
Betting is capped
O'DoyleRules: calls $1
*** TURN *** [Th Kd 3c] Q♥
ventie leaves the table
O'DoyleRules: bets $2
ronaldadio: raises $2 to $4
O'DoyleRules: calls $2
*** RIVER *** [Th Kd 3c Qh] 8♥
Thulsadoon joins the table at seat #9
O'DoyleRules: checks
ronaldadio: bets $2
O'DoyleRules: calls $2
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ronaldadio: shows [Tc Kc] (two pair, Kings and Tens)
O'DoyleRules: shows [Ks Qd] (two pair, Kings and Queens) O'DoyleRules collected $22 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $23 | Rake $1
Board [Th Kd 3c Qh 8h]
Seat 1: skyworldln folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: ronaldadio showed [Tc Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and Tens Seat 3: 4708romain folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 4: jasonodo folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 5: Gina1988 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: miracle card (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: O'DoyleRules (small blind) showed [Ks Qd] and won ($22) with two pair, Kings and Queens Seat 8: Zoren Elvaan (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 9: ventie folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: Henry17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


ok both hands you were in horrible position to play, the entire hand you are out of position and neither hand is that strong to begin with. Running less the quality hands you need to be in late position and it is nice that you would be the one opening in the hands.

hand 1 you open with Q9? why? this hand only plays good in multi way pots, heads up this is junk. This is a hand you limp in late position with multiple people and either hit a monster or fold. Ideal flop would be something like ThJh2h giving you monster draw and also meaning that most likely other people hit hands.

hand 2 again horrible position but you have to open up with this hand if you are going to run it. At this low level KQ is still going to call but this hand is really junk and again you are OUT OF POSITION to run such a speculative hand. on flop is fine 4 betting but once Queen hits you have to slow down. Every draw completed on the turn so why bet?
 
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Against people who are loose calling stations, yes!

There's a reason that they say that 'patience is key' in holdem.

I mean no offense by this (I wouldn't be posting in this thread if I didn't want to help you out, ronaldadio), but you got yourself in these messy hands. Sometimes the cards just run bad. It happens. You want to see what's happened to me recently?

SnG:

pokerstars GAME #8820051999: TOURNAMENT #44871473, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI (100/200) - 2007/03/09 - 17:55:02 (ET)
Table '44871473 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: rodskjegg (1805 in chips)
Seat 3: jjdodd27 (1850 in chips)
Seat 4: demo0013 (2460 in chips)
Seat 5: 1 2 Obey (2125 in chips)
Seat 6: Roll001 (1340 in chips)
Seat 7: AjaxAchill (705 in chips)
Seat 8: Mitch_graham (1685 in chips)
Seat 9: ChuckTs (1530 in chips)
jjdodd27: posts small blind 100
demo0013: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ah Js]
1 2 Obey: folds
Roll001: folds
AjaxAchill: raises 505 to 705 and is all-in
Mitch_graham has timed out
Mitch_graham: folds
Mitch_graham is sitting out
ChuckTs: raises 825 to 1530 and is all-in
rodskjegg: folds
jjdodd27: folds
demo0013: folds
*** FLOP *** [4s Th 4d]
*** TURN *** [4s Th 4d] 6♣
*** RIVER *** [4s Th 4d 6c] 5♠
*** SHOW DOWN ***
AjaxAchill: shows [Td Qh] (two pair, Tens and Fours)
ChuckTs: shows [Ah Js] (a pair of Fours)
AjaxAchill collected 1710 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1710 | Rake 0
Board [4s Th 4d 6c 5s]
Seat 2: rodskjegg (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jjdodd27 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: demo0013 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: 1 2 Obey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Roll001 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: AjaxAchill showed [Td Qh] and won (1710) with two pair, Tens and Fours
Seat 8: Mitch_graham folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: ChuckTs showed [Ah Js] and lost with a pair of Fours

SnG (legit, though):

POKERSTARS GAME #8820394580: TOURNAMENT #44874185, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2007/03/09 - 18:17:22 (ET)
Table '44874185 1' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: ydennek (2110 in chips)
Seat 3: Ijahman2k6 (1775 in chips)
Seat 4: Zaft1 (2075 in chips)
Seat 5: go_fl_gators (890 in chips)
Seat 6: graysom (3200 in chips)
Seat 7: tigress93 (1835 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (1615 in chips)
Zaft1: posts small blind 25
go_fl_gators: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Ks Ah]
graysom: folds
tigress93: calls 50
ChuckTs: raises 150 to 200
ydennek: calls 200
Ijahman2k6: folds
Zaft1: folds
go_fl_gators: folds
tigress93: calls 150
*** FLOP *** [3h Kh 9c]
tigress93: bets 150
ChuckTs: raises 500 to 650
ydennek: calls 650
tigress93: folds
*** TURN *** [3h Kh 9c] 6♣
ChuckTs: bets 765 and is all-in
ydennek: calls 765
*** RIVER *** [3h Kh 9c 6c] 4♦
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Ks Ah] (a pair of Kings)
ydennek: shows [9s 9h] (three of a kind, Nines)
ydennek collected 3655 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3655 | Rake 0
Board [3h Kh 9c 6c 4d]
Seat 1: ydennek showed [9s 9h] and won (3655) with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 3: Ijahman2k6 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Zaft1 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: go_fl_gators (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: graysom folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: tigress93 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs showed [Ks Ah] and lost with a pair of Kings

SnG (and later ran into QQ with AQ):

POKERSTARS GAME #8842851400: TOURNAMENT #44981754, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL II (15/30) - 2007/03/10 - 23:32:07 (ET)
Table '44981754 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: LKD6 (1500 in chips)
Seat 2: ukin (1180 in chips)
Seat 3: Taco Jr. (1760 in chips)
Seat 4: bigdonkfish (2080 in chips)
Seat 5: ChuckTs (1470 in chips)
Seat 6: spnpkr (1040 in chips)
Seat 7: ozshrek (960 in chips)
Seat 8: Balearic (1550 in chips)
Seat 9: IrishLuck31 (1960 in chips)
Balearic: posts small blind 15
IrishLuck31: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [Tc Ts]
LKD6: folds
ukin: folds
Taco Jr.: folds
bigdonkfish: raises 30 to 60
ChuckTs: raises 140 to 200
spnpkr has timed out
spnpkr: folds
spnpkr is sitting out
ozshrek: calls 200 ???
Balearic: folds
IrishLuck31: folds
bigdonkfish: calls 140
*** FLOP *** [5c 6h Qd]
bigdonkfish: checks
ChuckTs: bets 400
ozshrek: raises 360 to 760 and is all-in
bigdonkfish: folds
ChuckTs: calls 360
*** TURN *** [5c 6h Qd] [Ah]
*** RIVER *** [5c 6h Qd Ah] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [Tc Ts] (a pair of Tens)
ozshrek: shows [Qc Jd] (a pair of Queens)
ozshrek collected 2165 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2165 | Rake 0
Board [5c 6h Qd Ah 9c]
Seat 1: LKD6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ukin folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Taco Jr. folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bigdonkfish folded on the Flop
Seat 5: ChuckTs showed [Tc Ts] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 6: spnpkr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: ozshrek (button) showed [Qc Jd] and won (2165) with a pair of Queens
Seat 8: Balearic (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: IrishLuck31 (big blind) folded before Flop

SnG:
POKERSTARS GAME #8843344195: TOURNAMENT #44982266, $15+$1 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL VI (100/200) - 2007/03/11 - 00:07:30 (ET)
Table '44982266 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: CraigHChrist (1825 in chips)
Seat 4: milesg2 (2065 in chips)
Seat 5: BubbaBigGuy (1115 in chips)
Seat 7: CrudeDude01 (4310 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (1395 in chips)
Seat 9: Chino_Legend (2790 in chips)
CraigHChrist: posts small blind 100
milesg2: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8h 8c]
BubbaBigGuy: folds
CrudeDude01: raises 600 to 800
ChuckTs: raises 595 to 1395 and is all-in
Chino_Legend: folds
CraigHChrist: folds
milesg2: folds
CrudeDude01: calls 595
*** FLOP *** [As Qh 6h]
*** TURN *** [As Qh 6h] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [As Qh 6h Jd] [3c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CrudeDude01: shows [Ad 3h] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
ChuckTs: shows [8h 8c] (a pair of Eights)
CrudeDude01 collected 3090 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3090 | Rake 0
Board [As Qh 6h Jd 3c]
Seat 1: CraigHChrist (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: milesg2 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: BubbaBigGuy folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: CrudeDude01 showed [Ad 3h] and won (3090) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 8: ChuckTs showed [8h 8c] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: Chino_Legend (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

MTT:

fulltiltpoker Game #1965333432: $12,000 Guarantee (14319856), Table 2 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 3:25:26 ET - 2007/03/11
Seat 1: MGT2911 (2,600)
Seat 2: GoldMiner1849 (1,955)
Seat 3: shakingelk (14,237)
Seat 4: LaMachina (865)
Seat 5: thegreat seeley (2,230)
Seat 6: strohsix (1,670)
Seat 7: ChuckTs (1,545)
Seat 9: buhba (9,153)
buhba posts the small blind of 80
MGT2911 posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #7
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [6d Ad]
GoldMiner1849 folds
shakingelk folds
LaMachina folds
thegreat seeley folds
strohsix folds
ChuckTs raises to 1,545, and is all in
buhba calls 1,465
MGT2911 folds
ChuckTs shows [6d Ad]
buhba shows [Qc Kc]
*** FLOP *** [9d Qs Qh]
*** TURN *** [9d Qs Qh] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [9d Qs Qh 7s] [2d]
ChuckTs shows a pair of Queens
buhba shows three of a kind, Queens
buhba wins the pot (3,250) with three of a kind, Queens
ChuckTs stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3,250 | Rake 0
Board: [9d Qs Qh 7s 2d]
Seat 1: MGT2911 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: GoldMiner1849 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: shakingelk didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: LaMachina didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: thegreat seeley didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: strohsix didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: ChuckTs (button) showed [6d Ad] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 9: buhba (small blind) showed [Qc Kc] and won (3,250) with three of a kind, Queens

SnG (not a beat, but ran into a hand making a move):

POKERSTARS GAME #8852716980: TOURNAMENT #44778459, $1.00+$0.10 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (50/100) - 2007/03/11 - 16:19:10 (ET)
Table '44778459 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: PLF_DBA_MAN (1615 in chips)
Seat 2: Stefanicov (2170 in chips)
Seat 3: Qhr1s (1580 in chips)
Seat 4: AnnoDomino (1635 in chips)
Seat 5: mischman (1240 in chips)
Seat 6: ChuckTs (1495 in chips)
Seat 7: Freakakanus (1285 in chips)
Seat 8: klitkat (50 in chips)
Seat 9: list73 (2430 in chips)
klitkat: posts small blind 50 and is all-in
list73: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [As Jh]
PLF_DBA_MAN: folds
Stefanicov: folds
Qhr1s: folds
AnnoDomino: folds
mischman: raises 200 to 300
klitkat said, "heads up at other table"
ChuckTs: raises 1195 to 1495 and is all-in
Freakakanus: folds
list73: calls 1395
Freakakanus said, "Chris: I can't believe Anno and Freak made it H2H again.....and Anno beats Freak with the same hand for the third time!""
mischman: folds
ChuckTs said, "oh my"
*** FLOP *** [2h 6d 2s]
Stefanicov said, "best of luck bbb"
*** TURN *** [2h 6d 2s] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [2h 6d 2s Ks] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
list73: shows [Ad Ah] (two pair, Aces and Kings)
ChuckTs: shows [As Jh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
list73 collected 3140 from side pot
klitkat: shows [4s 6s] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
list73 collected 200 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3340 Main pot 200. Side pot 3140. | Rake 0
Board [2h 6d 2s Ks Kc]
Seat 1: PLF_DBA_MAN folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Stefanicov folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Qhr1s folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: AnnoDomino folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: mischman folded before Flop
Seat 6: ChuckTs showed [As Jh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 7: Freakakanus (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: klitkat (small blind) showed [4s 6s] and lost with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 9: list73 (big blind) showed [Ad Ah] and won (3340) with two pair, Aces and Kings

MTT (finally cashed, but only 2X buyin):

POKERSTARS GAME #8856940818: TOURNAMENT #45038225, $4.00+$0.40 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL X (400/800) - 2007/03/11 - 20:32:15 (ET)
Table '45038225 10' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: jimsbeauty (14310 in chips)
Seat 2: monkinhof (8250 in chips)
Seat 3: Danmatch (11365 in chips)
Seat 4: Wildcard_89 (15460 in chips)
Seat 5: stupidkid888 (8200 in chips)
Seat 7: HardCoreHeb (18254 in chips)
Seat 8: ChuckTs (11770 in chips)
Seat 9: specialas (10151 in chips)
jimsbeauty: posts the ante 50
monkinhof: posts the ante 50
Danmatch: posts the ante 50
Wildcard_89: posts the ante 50
stupidkid888: posts the ante 50
HardCoreHeb: posts the ante 50
ChuckTs: posts the ante 50
specialas: posts the ante 50
stupidkid888: posts small blind 400
HardCoreHeb: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ChuckTs [8s 8d]
ChuckTs: raises 1600 to 2400
specialas: folds
jimsbeauty: folds
monkinhof: folds
Danmatch: calls 2400
Wildcard_89: folds
stupidkid888: folds
HardCoreHeb: folds
*** FLOP *** [9c 4h 7s]
ChuckTs: bets 4000
Danmatch: raises 4915 to 8915 and is all-in
ChuckTs: calls 4915
*** TURN *** [9c 4h 7s] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [9c 4h 7s Ks] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ChuckTs: shows [8s 8d] (a pair of Eights)
Danmatch: shows [Kd Js] (a pair of Kings)
Danmatch collected 24230 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 24230 | Rake 0
Board [9c 4h 7s Ks Qs]
Seat 1: jimsbeauty folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: monkinhof folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Danmatch showed [Kd Js] and won (24230) with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: Wildcard_89 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: stupidkid888 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: HardCoreHeb (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: ChuckTs showed [8s 8d] and lost with a pair of Eights
Seat 9: specialas folded before Flop (didn't bet)

And you know what I'm thinking? So what. Sure, I slam my desk or start yelling after a run of beats like this, but SO WHAT. I can come back tomorrow and get my money in as a %60 or %70 favourite yet again. And I'll probably win most of those hands.

Take a step back and look at those two hands. Can you honestly say you're not tilting?
 
Ronaldadio

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Stormswa, I was playing limit

Also, after I decided to play the hands I ended up with 2 pair in one and an open ended straight in the other, which was a straight after the turn.

Not specifically u Storm, but there are so many ppl on this site who are so good at telling u what u should have done after the event, but in such an arrogant way its untrue!!!
 
edge-t

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Also, after I decided to play the hands I ended up with 2 pair in one and an open ended straight in the other, which was a straight after the turn.

Not specifically u Storm, but there are so many ppl on this site who are so good at telling u what u should have done after the event, but in such an arrogant way its untrue!!!

I think you're being unfair to those trying to help your game and my game. try posting your hands on rec.gambling.poker. You'll get comments like: "That is nuts! End of story!" Does that help you? Or "You're a donkey! pick up knitting or something."

there are nice people on RGP, but most of them are flaming idiots. compared to that place, where they talk about religion to politics, I'd rather much be here than there.

It appears to me you are frustrated with bad beats, and taking it out on the forummers here. cool down, stop posting for a while.
 
Stick66

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Also, after I decided to play the hands I ended up with 2 pair in one and an open ended straight in the other, which was a straight after the turn.

Not specifically u Storm, but there are so many ppl on this site who are so good at telling u what u should have done after the event, but in such an arrogant way its untrue!!!
Try posting a HH without the results. You'll get more honest answers that way and there will be a few differences in opinion. It's too easy to be "right" when one already knows the results.
 
stormswa

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yes

Also, after I decided to play the hands I ended up with 2 pair in one and an open ended straight in the other, which was a straight after the turn.

Not specifically u Storm, but there are so many ppl on this site who are so good at telling u what u should have done after the event, but in such an arrogant way its untrue!!!


I noticed it was Limit in the 2nd response, sorry about that. Im not trying to be arrogant or mean to you but if you post a hand in this section im going to be brutally honest every time. That is how you get better being able to take advice for what its worth. I make mistakes still all the time and have to re-watch some of my instructional videos. Hell I lost $1700 last week playing poor poker.

Im sooo not beyond mistakes I dont think any poker player can say they play perfect poker 100% of the time. The thing is you did play both hands very poorly and that is why you lost. You got unlucky yes but hell that happens, dont let it tilt you and move on. You say you want to quit and again that is your choice but I hate to see players leave that can eventually become strong players.
 
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After reading phil helmuths book I'll almost never play limit hold'em again. It's way to boring of a game and if you want to play hands like that try out no limit or even get into omaha a little when playing drawing hands is how you have to play and you can see some more flops. If you play limit you really have to play tighter than a freshly rolled cuban cigar. I've also found that low limit online limit hold'em sucks. I would play no lower than 5-10 just because of the players you encounter in anything lower always seem to piss me off to no end. you were getting your money in with the best hands and both times (maybe you should have slowed down with the Q on the turn) you did hit the flop fairly hard and "rammed and jammed" as the saying goes. It happens and I'd be willing to say you'd be back on the poker table soon enough.
 
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I'll tell you some different things...

Raising with Q9s in UTG+2 is fairly loose, but it's not crazy (you were first in). On some tables or situations, it's a good move or at least reasonable. But that's not the issue...

You were 2:1 favorite and lost. So what? You will always loose one of every three such hands. It's just normal...
Such a losses are not a problem. The problem is if you're alter your play because of emotions. And it seems that you do...

Next hand. You limped with KTs in MP1 as first in, which isn't a very good move (although not a very bad one). However, it's a clearly worse move than folding or raising. You probably know it, but you limped anyway.

The folding of KT in MP1 just can't be a bad move. But you didn't, probably because of greed.

Raising (when you're first in) can be a little bit better or little bit worse than folding. It depends (table, situation etc...)
If you're raising Q9s in UTG+2, then you must raise a KTs in MP1. But you didn't. Why? Probably fear, perhaps luck of energy.

What I am trying to say? If you have enough knowledge and still losing, it's because of emotions. Bad beats are irrelevant in a long run.

You were big underdog before flop, but luckily flopped a ten and became big favorite. Then your opp luckily turned a queen and became big favorite again. It happens; it's perfectly normal in poker.

I don't know whether you're winner or looser. But, if you're going to quit - you've chosen a wrong reason...
 
LRPharm54

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I can relate completely

:)I have quit several times out of frustration, whether it be play or real, it is just something that happens. It depends on your attitude, when you play , how you play and what mood you are in when playing. If you are having a bad day and proceed to play you will enevitably lose more than win.

But in terms of just flat calling it quits, I have found that a majority of disgruntled players end up in what I call the "Delayed Boomerang Effect". Time will flitter by and you will find the need to play again and just blow it all off as bad luck and then simply return with a different set of priorities, game plans, money management, and even go as far as changing your game style.

It helps tremendously to read up, follow good examples, and look closely at what the experts are doing and try to use their ideas and incorporate your own playing style that mimicks winning strategies. Poker is a thinking game, and although luck does enter into the picture, it is important to push the envelope when the opportunity arises. I find playing limit is boring, but it is an excellent tool to learn patience, strategy, observe other players and see what they do, and also get into a winning attitude regardless of what you get in a hand. All hands are good, depending on the flop and what you are willing to do to convince other players you have the best hand when in fact you have rags deluxe.

Never give up, be patient, study, learn, improvise and be flexible and there is hope. I am learning the same thing and I am certainly no expert, but I work on my game, I don't simply wait for luck to carry me through the process.

Hope that helps. Common sense is the key. Don't overplay your hand, and change your style if other players see what you are doing, and bluffing is sometimes a good tool if you know how.

Thanks to all my friends In CC and I will be looking at your ideas and concepts to winning and not focusing so much on the money, but having a Consistent Game that leads to some success.

Have a great Day all.

Lonnie:D
 
beardyian

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To confuse us

It confused me lol :D
 
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I'm not expert in poker by far, but based on what I've read and hopefully learned, both of those hands were not considered good starting hands when you're in early or even middle position in Limit poker. Low Limit hold'em is very lose, and this isn't at all uncommon. I've been rivered many a time, in similar situations, so I know how you feel. That's why I went back and re-read my books on low-limit, and now play much tighter and with more patience than when I started. Even being patient and waiting for good hands doesn't always work, but it does make a difference as to whether you're a net loser or net winner, and I like being a net winner.
 
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They aint even that bad beats well not enuf to give up poker so some got a flush draw on u on the river so what happend to me everyday u got lucky in the first place again KQ u were dominated pre flop then he reutned the favour and go lucky on u i have had much worse beats i aint giving it up i have had KQ flop KQ2 he has K3 next 2 cards 3 3 that was for like 600$ n ur saying ur giving up poker bcz of that dont be so stupid
 
calibanboy

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Why did you keep playing with only $6?

Either reload or ship out - do not "tilt it".
 
aliengenius

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Why does the OP refuse to come to understand low limit Limit poker by not reading Ed Millers book and book?!?
 
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