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stormswa

stormswa

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MOD CHANGE TITLE OF THIS TO OMAHA HAND JUST HI PLEASE.


Full Tilt Poker Game #3329859801: Table Cliff Shadows - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 11:00:51 ET - 2007/08/22
Seat 2: SuperSpunk ($26.30)
Seat 3: KALEL21 ($11.40)
Seat 4: stormswa ($21.75)
Seat 5: AinaKatki ($13.30)
Seat 6: jalin222 ($9.85)
Seat 7: mudpaw ($5.05)
KALEL21 posts the small blind of $0.05
stormswa posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stormswa [9c Ad As Qs]
AinaKatki folds
jalin222 calls $0.10
mudpaw folds
SuperSpunk calls $0.10
KALEL21 calls $0.05
stormswa raises to $0.50 (standard raise for me)
jalin222 calls $0.40
SuperSpunk calls $0.40
KALEL21 folds
*** FLOP *** [3c 3s 6h]
stormswa checks
jalin222 checks
SuperSpunk bets $1.60
stormswa calls $1.60 (guy is donk betting into 2 opponents this is either a monster or air.
jalin222 calls $1.60
*** TURN *** [3c 3s 6h] [Kd]
stormswa checks
jalin222 checks
SuperSpunk checks
only hands that check here are KK.

*** RIVER *** [3c 3s 6h Kd] [Td]
stormswa checks
jalin222 bets $3.20

this is weird bet to me, if super calls I would fold but being so small I thought I had to call.
SuperSpunk folds
stormswa has 15 seconds left to act
stormswa calls $3.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jalin222 shows [5s Th 4c 7s] two pair, Tens and Threes
stormswa shows [9c Ad As Qs] two pair, Aces and Threes
stormswa wins the pot ($11.55) with two pair, Aces and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.80 | Rake $1.25
Board: [3c 3s 6h Kd Td]
Seat 2: SuperSpunk (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: KALEL21 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: stormswa (big blind) showed [9c Ad As Qs] and won ($11.55) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 5: AinaKatki didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jalin222 showed [5s Th 4c 7s] and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes
Seat 7: mudpaw didn't bet (folded)
 
robwhufc

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MOD CHANGE TITLE OF THIS TO OMAHA HAND JUST HI PLEASE.


Full Tilt Poker Game #3329859801: Table Cliff Shadows - $0.05/$0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 11:00:51 ET - 2007/08/22
Seat 2: SuperSpunk ($26.30)
Seat 3: KALEL21 ($11.40)
Seat 4: stormswa ($21.75)
Seat 5: AinaKatki ($13.30)
Seat 6: jalin222 ($9.85)
Seat 7: mudpaw ($5.05)
KALEL21 posts the small blind of $0.05
stormswa posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stormswa [9c Ad As Qs]
AinaKatki folds
jalin222 calls $0.10
mudpaw folds
SuperSpunk calls $0.10
KALEL21 calls $0.05
stormswa raises to $0.50 (standard raise for me)
jalin222 calls $0.40
SuperSpunk calls $0.40
KALEL21 folds
*** FLOP *** [3c 3s 6h]
stormswa checks
jalin222 checks
SuperSpunk bets $1.60
stormswa calls $1.60 (guy is donk betting into 2 opponents this is either a monster or air. OR "I'VE GOT A PAIR OF ACES - I MAY BE AHEAD HERE"
jalin222 calls $1.60
*** TURN *** [3c 3s 6h] K♦
stormswa checks
jalin222 checks
SuperSpunk checks
only hands that check here are KK.

*** RIVER *** [3c 3s 6h Kd] [Td]
stormswa checks
jalin222 bets $3.20

this is weird bet to me, if super calls I would fold but being so small I thought I had to call. "BECAUSE I'VE GOT A PAIR OF ACES AND I MAY BE AHEAD HERE"
SuperSpunk folds
stormswa has 15 seconds left to act
stormswa calls $3.20
*** SHOW DOWN ***
jalin222 shows [5s Th 4c 7s] two pair, Tens and Threes
stormswa shows [9c Ad As Qs] two pair, Aces and Threes
stormswa wins the pot ($11.55) with two pair, Aces and Threes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.80 | Rake $1.25
Board: [3c 3s 6h Kd Td]
Seat 2: SuperSpunk (button) folded on the River
Seat 3: KALEL21 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 4: stormswa (big blind) showed [9c Ad As Qs] and won ($11.55) with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 5: AinaKatki didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: jalin222 showed [5s Th 4c 7s] and lost with two pair, Tens and Threes
Seat 7: mudpaw didn't bet (folded)
Are we supposed to be analysing this, or basking in your glory?
 
stormswa

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Are we supposed to be analysing this, or basking in your glory?


why would you bask in my glory?

I want to know if I played it like a calling station donk? I fold aces a lot in omaha and thought i might of wanted to fold these at some point in hand. Results aside of course.
 
robwhufc

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Why not continuation bet the flop? What you are doing in this hand is calling, and hoping that none of the 8 cards against you aren't one of the 2 remaining 3's. You aren't slow playing, you probably aren't trying to work out what the opponents are holding (pretty much impossible due to your lack of continuation bet), so you are just hoping you can get to the end without it being too expensive.

You lost control of the hand on the flop, you'd have found out a lot cheaper whether you were against a 3 by betting. If you think SuperSpunk was betting with nothing, then you should have re-raised him to get the other guy out of the hand.

Just my 5 cents, this is one of those hands that if i was actually playing it, i would have probably done the same as you did.
 
Bombjack

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You should normally fold this on the flop vs a decent opponent. If you have a read he's a complete donk, I suppose it's OK.
 
mrsnake3695

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I've got no problem with the play here. What we fear most in Omaha is straights anf flushes. With this board there are no straight or flush possibilities so It's very possible that 2 pair aces up is ahead but not strong enough to play a really big pot with.

If it was hi/low I would fold since there is a stronger chance that someone stayed in the hand with a 3 but that's less likely in hi only.

So it's one of those hands that good enough to call with but not strong enough to raise and possibley get into a big pot with. What if we get reraised here, can we call then? Probably not. Plus there aren't too many hands that we beat that are going to call our raise anyway so I like just calling here.

We can make a case for betting the flop but if we get one or 2 callers then we run the risk of building a big pot with a not so strong hand.

Sometimes it's not awful to be a calling station, some hands it's the best way to play it.
 
daxter70

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whiff on the flop and paired board...you want to play small ball here...which looks like u did..being just HI, u cant put someone on that 3 unless its a rare KKQ3 sooted, etc or XX33 and then oh well..lol...K scary on turn, u said that...so i think u played it down pretty well to win, not big, but also not to lose too big!!!:cool:
 
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