NL50 AA three-way

Schatzdog

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LoWnz is a solid TAG style player, no real information on the other villain in the hand.

What do you think on all streets? Is the turn check really weak?


PokerStars Game #13825021768: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/12/12 - 22:48:54 (ET)
Table 'Liguria IV' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: FFBBDD ($60.30 in chips)
Seat 2: PokerDave55 ($31.35 in chips)
Seat 3: dashgetda$ ($28.60 in chips)
Seat 4: beagler022 ($27.50 in chips)
Seat 5: Flamessuck01 ($28.25 in chips)
Seat 6: Hero ($48.95 in chips)
Seat 7: bluexcr ($49.25 in chips)
Seat 8: LoWnz ($87.10 in chips)
Seat 9: Sharknebulah ($51.65 in chips)
FFBBDD: posts small blind $0.25
PokerDave55: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Ad Ah]
dashgetda$: folds
beagler022: calls $0.50
Flamessuck01: folds
Hero: raises $2 to $2.50
bluexcr: folds
LoWnz: calls $2.50
Sharknebulah: folds
FFBBDD: folds
PokerDave55: folds
beagler022: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [Tc Kc 6c]
beagler022: checks
Hero: bets $5
LoWnz: calls $5
beagler022: calls $5
*** TURN *** [Tc Kc 6c] [6d]
beagler022: checks
Hero: checks
LoWnz: bets $20
beagler022: folds
Hero: is scratching his head...
 
pantin007

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now i think he has something like king queens {i could be wrong}
the bet just seems to large if he had a monster
plus i dont think he would call preflop with a 6 and most likely just has a king with a good kicker
i dont believe he would just call the flop then bet huge with the flush on the turn i just dont think he will do that but i could be wrong
i would have to push here cause even if u call ur chips are going in on the river {he could even be on the nut flush draw}


what did he have?
 
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I think villian has the flush but not the nuts and was worried that hero did, when the turn was checked the took the opporunity to take the lead figuring you have an overpair or TPTK. Of course I don't know anything about table images so this is probably completely wrong.
 
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I think he has A K and maybe has the ace of clubs. If not, then he is probably trying to thin the field and stop others drawing at the clubs with the possibility of picking up the pot there.
Pocket 6s isn't too unlikely until the turn bet of 20, the call PF, the call with a set are both ok, but i doubt he would bet quads here in case one person is drawing at clubs, so if there is a club on the river, he could win a lot more.
i.e he would be losing a lot of value with 6s
 
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definately has 1 club, maybe along with the king, or a royal draw. I think i would fold, being to confused to think clearly
 
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The way I see it,AK or Kq, with a flush card, and maybe he put u on the fact that either way u yourself were afraid of the clubs itself, and decided thats a good time to make a move, I don't see a 6 for him, because, of the fact that there's 2 of them out, and with your preflop raise, there's no way unless he's a "tard", he'd call with a/6, with that, I'd have to say call, oh and another thing, quads, are out, and boats are out, for the simple fact that if he had a monster hand, then why would he push, just to make you fold yours? He'd be losing money out, instead of inviting customers in, most diffently you have to call....

What did he have, i'm dying to know??
 
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re thought this and villian has big br so hes calling with 8/9 of clubs too see the flop hes put you on A/K and knows that you have at least top pair top kicker and you could bee drawing too higher flush but feel hes willing too go the distance in case you miss
 
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think of it this way. Would you call here with a,k with no flush draw? probably not, so why would you call with aces which can beat the exact same range of hands as a,k here except it can beat a,k aswell. Just fold and wait for an easier hand to work out to come along
 
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How do you think he would play a hand like :kd4::qd4:? Just give up on the flop? Give free cards on the turn when it looks like no-one has a made hand but there are probably flush draws out? More likely he has a King without a big club imo. He could also just have a big flush draw and is betting because it looks like no-one has anything. Even if he has a flush draw with his King, we're a favourite and should push the turn.

Of course there's also a ton of hands that have us crushed, but we almost always have 4 outs.
 
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Sorry guys been away a couple days.

I actually folded based on the fact that he'd only shown down nut hands/very solid hands.

But just after I folded I re-assessed and thought he probably had a K with maybe 1 club and was protecting his top pair. I think this was a bad fold on my behalf.
 
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if he didnt show his hand, then it wasnt a bad fold
 
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if he didnt show his hand, then it wasnt a bad fold
no, because

1) Most people use auto-muck
2) People don't always show bluffs, especially not semi-bluffs
3) People just as often show to show they have the goods, as good etiquette, rather than a bluff (more often than bluffs, I find, in live games)
3) If he had a king he thought he was ahead anyway
 
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no, because

1) Most people use auto-muck
2) People don't always show bluffs, especially not semi-bluffs
3) People just as often show to show they have the goods, as good etiquette, rather than a bluff (more often than bluffs, I find, in live games)
3) If he had a king he thought he was ahead anyway

I know i said it in a sarcastic way, as in if you didnt see his cards you can just think to yourself that he had the nuts
 
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