KJ on the BTN in community pot.

Munchrs

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Villian is 22/0/0 over 22 hands, pretty sure thes are irrelevant though as sample is to small.
Ive been TAG.

poker stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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MP1: $26.15
MP2: $22.55
CO: $25.05
Hero (BTN): $25.90
SB: $10.25
BB: $34.55
UTG: $5.00
UTG+1: $24.55
UTG+2: $15.85

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with K
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J
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UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 calls $0.75, UTG+2 calls $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($4.50) 8
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2
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K
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SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, UTG+2 bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB folds, BB folds, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $4.25, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($13.00) T
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UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

River: ($13.00) T
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UTG+2 bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50

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ChuckTs

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Really don't like your line here tbh.

What range do you put him on pf?
What's the purpose of raising the flop?
What range do you put your opponent on after his 3-bet on the flop?
 
skoldpadda

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I don't like bloating the pot with KJ on the flop either, but I don't really understand the villain's small bet (75c into $4.50). I like your check turn and call on the river as played on the flop. But again, I don't really like the flop raise with a holding this weak in position. That's the problem with marginal hands like KJ; they put you in difficult marginal situations.
 
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hmm, actually don't mind the flop there, he could be doing this with like QQ/JJ or a weaker K. But after he minraises your flop raise bells are probably going off. Now I don't even really mind the call, because this is probably AK or KQ a lot of the time and if you can hit a J you could win some money or this could have been a bluff and you're going to try to reach showdown cheaply and possibly win with your top pair.

Now the river's tough. If it wasn't a second T I'd say fold pretty much 100% of the time, but he seems to be wanting to represent that T and steal the pot. Also if he flopped 2 pair you now have the best hand. Really not sure here, I guess a call isn't horrible for the reasons I said just now but I'd still lean towards a fold here.

This is one of the reasons I'll call preflop raises with hands like 56, 89, etc. but stay away from hands like KJ and even KQ. Just too many hands that have you dominated and you end up losing too many big pots. I don't like the call with KJo preflop here.
 
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The river decision comes down to this: are you good here 6.5/19.5 x 100 percent of the time?
 
Munchrs

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Chuck, I basically didnt think about those things :/

Flop play is horrible IMO because of ^^^^
 
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I don't see how flat calling the flop is the right idea, unless you are willing to fold your hand to a value bet on the turn/river, or just pay him off if he does have you beat. You have absolutely no idea where you are in the hand if you just flat call the flop.

Personally, i think i would come back over the top on the flop and fold if he came back over again. He probably has QQ or JJ. Maybe a badly played AQ. He sure as hell isn't checking the turn with AK, so you're probably only beaten by KQ (or AA/KK...see later in post)...it's hard to tell coz the villain's stats are pretty useless as written.

However, that 75c bet on the flop is so bizzare...it's almost like those guys who try to min bet so that somebody will come over the top. The check on the turn kind of makes you think he wants you to bet. So he could possibly actually have a huge hand like AA or KK or he could have basically air.

The hand is played out 1 of 2 ways most likely...

The guy has a genuine hand, bets tiny on the flop to induce a raise, gets the raise so reraises you, then checks the turn hoping you bet and value bets the river...OR

The guy has JJ/QQ/AQ, bets tiny on the flop OOP because he is an idiot/wants to see where he is, reraises your flop raise because he thinks you think he is just making a c-bet, then checks the turn coz he has nothing and tries to steal on the river.

If you want to play this hand you probably should 3 bet preflop, because by flat calling in a multiway pot with KJ on button you are on a hiding to nothing. I'd limp with S-Cs etc but if you have a semi-big hand like KJ, 3 bet preflop lets you know whether or not he has a huge hand or not, which would make the post flop play alot easier.
 
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